Some cuttings will attain thickened roots and will be similar in appearance to seed-grown plants, but it is strongly dependent on the growers ability to provide enough heat, sun, water and fertilizer during the plant's juvenile years when growth is quickest.

You can buy a graft and then take cuttings if you want something more "pure".

My question is...Is it too late in the season to repot it and lift it up a little out of the compost or should I be patient and wait till next spring? We are still getting some lovely hot sunny days and it is continuing to put on leaf and stem growth and it looks really healthy with deep green shiny leaves and several small branches forming. Would post a pic but am on my husbands computer at the mo as mine has lost its internet connection, duh, but will try later on.
Thanks, Gill.

you should probably be patient and wait to repot until spring when there will be many more months of active growth, but if you can keep your seedling growing through its first winter with ample sun and warmth, then repotting is beneficial.

quickest growth is attained in the first few years, so frequent repotting is essential. however, if it goes dormant naturally, do not force growth.

x

Can I tell you this is the fourth time I am writing this!!!!! I'm having issues.
Greenclaws- I agree with xerophyte you should probably wait. If you repot now you won't get the swollen caudex that you want. But, you probably would this spring. I would be pretty attached to a plant I raised from seed, so I don't want you to do the wrong thing. However, I got a small one shipped to me in 100 degree weather in July, I put it on a plant shelf, my cat knocked it off, the DR was MIA was two weeks, I found it, replanted it (no lifting) and stuck it outside. It's the small one. These are tough plants that don't mind experimentation. But yours is so young...you decide I can't!
gee8ch- Is that like G H? Anyway, I posted some pics (obviously) but gardenweb would not let me post the websites, I don't really understand why. Maybe they thought I was trying to sell something? Anyway, if you want to email me personally, I'll send you the websites. They are great sites! Here's my email: kellyhitt678@hotmail.com. Greenclaws if you want to email me for the sites, too, feel free.

Adenium can become addicting, be careful!

The named hybrids you mentioned are true to name only from cuttings. The downside is that cuttings are less likely to develop a fat caudex than a seed-grown plant. But it may very well not matter to many people, and at least you know for sure what the flowers are.

Adenium don't grow much taller after they are a few years old, instead they get fatter as they mature. If you want a tall plant the height must be achieved in the early years.

Kelly: Glad you mentioned about the potting. The taalll one from the garden cntr seems to be in too large a pot and the soil seems to stay wet too long. Will def. repot this one right away. Bought Cactus Potting Soil, Ground Pumice, Perlite, and Osmocote Time Release Fert. (18-18-18)also some fish fertilizer. Think I've got it all ready. Glad you prepped me for the ones coming in by mail. I'm sure I would have gone ballistic without your warning lol. Thanks All. Gloria

Thanks!

for those of you having problems staring adeniums from seed I suggest soaking them for approx 24 hours in warm water. I have heat mats and threw a bunch of seeds in a tub of water. Left them for appox 24 hours and then planted them VERY shallowly in Premium Seed Starting Jiffy Mix (about 3.50 a bag at Home Depot). They are potted in small 2 x 2 green plastic containers and live on a heat mat under flourescent lights.

I have never had an adenium in my life and out of 60 planted 54 sprouted and are now happily growing (although slowly). I just ordered and have received a bunch more seeds (over 500, LOL) so I will be planting more soon. I did originally try planting a few seeds without soaking them and although treated exactly the same as the ones that were soaked, none sprouted, so I hope this will help someone who wishes to grow from seed :)

I appreciate all the above info about lifting them when repotting as I am new at this and didn't know. I have two little baby albino's and I don't know if they will make it or not but they sure are trying. I also have a baby that looks like it might be variegated and several with longer pointy leaves rather than the little round baby leaves. It's neat to look at the different traits of each as if you look closely you can see different characteristics in a few.

Thank you all for this thread, it has been very informative :)

Pruning of branches is done with pruning shears or bonsai scissors, depending on the thickness. You need an idea of what kind of shape (style) you are going for before pruning. You make each cut based on the direction of the last latent bud left below the cut, the new branch will sprout in that direction. It helps them to mist generously after pruning. If you want to encourage branching at the end of an existing branch, then pinch the terminal growth.

and this too.. My experience with Adeniums is that you can cut the branches where ever you want a new branch to grow. I typically cut the branch about 2" long. I use a sharp knife to cut mine.

After cutting back I would not fertilize until I had new growth. A regular fertilizer is fine. I use the all purpose Miracle Grow and Peter's plant foods.

and her is some really good adenium info too here is a link
http://www.tropicanursery.com/adenium/cultivation.htm

Greenclaws your DR's are gorgeous!

Tony

Take care and good luck with the DR's, Gill.

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You have nice looking DRs! I just got my first this summer as well. From what I understand they should be brought inside when temps drop into the 50s. Watering should be stopped and they will go dormant and likely lose their leaves much like plumeria.

Kevin

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You can tell bigger pots were from back yard, smaller pots from the front yard. If the link doesn't work, please copy and paste. I had pictures from 2005,2006,2007,2008 also if any body want to see each pot as year past by and what they look like each year. Give me email.

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I LOVE these plants and what was suppose to be a gift to my mother is now becoming both of ours!

I love this thread and I am learning so much..Thank you everyone..

I live in New England and so far it seems to me that these plants are easy to care for come the winter... I would assume I can teat it like a plumie?

When bare, only water once a month or so, even though the soil is dry within days?..And they can go anywhere in the house you want, as long as they are not over watered and too cold?...I have mine in my basement with very little light but kept on the very dry side..

I use to own one myself that my mother was in love with which made her start a fever way before I, but I killed it watering it every week when the mix dried out in the winter, even when it sat in full sunny windows..I know better this time a round..

Thank you to the one whom was generous to send me one as a gift, and for the , yes., "fever"..And to those who share their time to help those of us that suffer with winter to come out on the other side with plants that survive..
It was here that has helped me grow plumeria successfully..

We love it!

Now, if I could get get one I can call my own..

Mike..

This one is called Miss India, and I bought at the local farmers market in Rockport Tx.

Barbra
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Again, I had no idea Florida Colors also had desert roses. Thanks for the lovely photos.

Jen

Jen

Barbra,

Gorgeous Dr's....WOW!!! Love the colors!!

I have a few that i really enjoy!!!

Thanks for showing those beauties!!!

Take care,

Laura in VB

Kevin

Speaking of DRs, here are some pics of mine. I bought it locally about 3 years ago and it has doubled in size. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't root DR cuttings either because the smaller one in the pic is a cutting that I rooted 2 years ago. It had none of the growth you see then. I rooted it just like a plumie cutting.

Kevin

Jen

Neysa

Neysa,

Dr's do like the full sun, however you need to acclimate them to the full sun. They come from inside the nursey ( if its a box store) and then we want to put them in the full sun. It sounds like it needs to adjust. Put it in partial shade unitl it gets use to the area and then slowly introduce it to the full sun. It should do great for you then!!!

EEE,

Welcome to the forum!!! We here love DR's as well as Plumeria!!!

I Have several DR's and i love the look as well...

Remember, they are addicting as Plumeria!! LOL...

Jen,

Can you believe those pics of Kevin's DR?

Unbelievable beauty!!!

Great job Kevin!!!

Take care,

Laura in VB

Neysa, Laura is right on about the sun burn and acclimating. Mine has to acclimate each year I move it outside and often looses leaves. Once it adjusts however it grows great in full sun. I basically treat it just like my plumies. DRs actually love water but have to have very fast draining soil. About 1/3 the depth of my pot is full of rock on bottom. The soil also has more perlite in it than I even use with plumies. I soak it thoroughly almost every day in summer and it blooms on and off all summer. Probably about time for mine to go in a bigger pot too.

I have let my DR be dry. Bought a soil meter, but have not gone to test it as yet. Maybe I should water my dr more.

I am thinking that I am going to like DR's more than plummies!!!!! I am going to give both a fair chance, then decide which I like better. The DR's don't take up so much room as the plummies do.......

Neysa

Is it Noble Concubine? I keep thinking about it and may get one eventually. It looks like a good bloomer.

Thanks,
Jen

Kevin