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Water rooting

Posted by irun5k St Pete, FL (My Page) on
Mon, Sep 17, 12 at 22:14

After seeing one or two other folks talking about water rooting I figured I would give it a try. Over the summer I put a couple extra cuttings in water. And waited. And waited. I didn't write down the date but estimate it was a couple months at least. The second one finally put out roots.

I gave a couple of similar cuttings from the same plant to my mother, who has never rooted a Plumeria, and gave her instructions on rooting in pure perlite in a water bottle. Hers rooted long ago.

So I'm not clear what the real advantage might be, other than it is pretty easy to do and it is pretty obvious when you have roots. I was surprised that they didn't rot though. Perhaps it helped that they were pretty solid grey wood cuttings from hardy trees. The bottom of this one is dark, but it isn't rotten. For me, I think I'll stick with rooting in gritty mix or pure perlite.

Enjoy,
Brian


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Hey Brian,

Nice to see you on here...thanks for sharing the results of your experiment. I would personally be too afraid of rot to try it...but I know some have had success with it.

Greg


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Wow that took a long time. Maybe its the angle on the photo but it seems like the roots started on the high side of a diagonal cut. That's contrary to normal behavior identified in another thread a couple months ago.


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There is a thread on the Plumeria Addicts group on Facebook that concerns water rooting. There's a pic of a cutting with 2 maybe 8 inch leaves on it sitting on a window sill in a Mason jar. It started rooting in 3 days in water and has been there for about a month. There's another pic on there of a cutting with maybe quarter inch roots all around the perimeter of the base also rooted in water.


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Brian,

In the beginning I conventionally rooted cuttings Id lose between 20 to sometimes 30 percent to rot or they just would not root. A friend of mine named Yolanda in 2002 told me she water rooted and had 100 percent success rate and they rooted in a fraction of the time. I tried it and from that point on I have only water rooted.

I water root all (100%) of my cuttings with 99.5% success rate. The only cuttings (3 of them) that didn't make it were shriveled up cuttings came from Singapore and were with a friend for 3 mon before I received them. Usually cuttings root in a much quicker period of time, some in days. I never leave a cutting longer then 3 weeks in water, or when I see signs of root formations or root nubs or popcorn and swelling of the bottom cambium layer. Again this can happen in several days or about 3weeks. When roots form in water usually they are acclimated to the water and a lot of time they are thinner. When you try to pot up roots that fully developed in water a lot of time they do not make it and new roots need to form. If you pot up at the beginning stages with a root nub usually it will acclimate to the soil and establishes in 2 to 3 weeks. So basically water rooting can save weeks off of rooting time and you do not need to worry about cuttings shriveling. If you have a cutting with an inflo and you water root usually the cutting will keep its inflo, bloom and root. When you try to root a cutting with a formed inflo a lot of time the inflo will either fall off or the cutting will flower but not root. I recently water rooted for my friend Irene in SD a Heart of Gold from Oz and Leo's Candy stripe, Hong Kong and they all rooted and flowered concurrently. Basically rooted and leafed out in 4 weeks.
Here are pics from the water rooted plants with inflos that bloomed, when I gave Irene the plants the Heart of gold had a really small bud and the Leos Candy Strpe was only 3" or 4" tall with no buds showing at all. Here are the pics Irene sent me to show me the blooms:
Heart of Gold from Oz
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Leos candy Stripe:
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So basically the reasons/benefit to water rooting:
1) roots much quicker, saves weeks, where conventional rooting take longer and their are much more losses,
2) Keeps cutting firm and healthy as the ST and water keep the cutting hydrated and healthy
3) Cuttings with inflos root and flower at the same time and remain firm and healthy
4) Needs less light and prefers less heat to root.

Hope this helps
Cheers


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Addendum to my post.
Water rooting is perfect for small tip cuttings as they always root. I had a 6"Golden Pagoda Tip break off and I water rooted it and gifted the plant. I gave Irene a 4 or 5 inch Metallica tip that broke off and she tried water rooting it and it took.
Also I usually only let cuttings heal for 3 days so you do not need to wait the week to 3 weeks to callous as the softer bottom absorbs the ST and water and swells quicker. Also if you have a wrinkled or semi squishy cutting if you water root it will get firm in 2 or 3 days, then root.


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freak, what is the water temperature? Do they water-root inside or outside? Do they get light from window or direct sun? Do you ever change the water? Tap water? What about chlorine in water? Do you add SuperThrive? What benefit is that?


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Dave,
I water root in a garage, only light comes from the transom window at the top of the rolling garage door, so basically it would be equivalent to being in shade. As for temp it varies as Ive water rooted in Feb, March and April where it is in the 60's during the day and 50's at night. There is only about 2" to 3" of water in the container that has ST. I use a Large plastic cups from fast food places when I order a large Diet Coke and I change the water and cups out every day or 2.

I use to buy a lot of cuttings from Suki from Trop Nature in Hawaii and she asked me how I rooted my plumies and I explained to her about water rooting. After that Suki would gang root in a huge bucket in water. Suki lived at the time in Ewa Beach in Hawaii which averaged 90's plus in summer so the first time she water rooted she found some cuttings were rotting. When I was told about the rot I explained how I Water root in the garage with not much lighting and cooler temps and never had rot. Suki then decided to try to root inside her house where it was cool from the air conditioning and diffused lighting. From that point on Suki water rooted also and stated that even hard to root plumies and ones that took a long time to root like Bill Morange took off quickly.


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Thanks for the info everyone! I will try water rooting with a couple of the cuttings that arrived yesterday. Inside away from the windows.
Tally HO!


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Hi James,
I agree with you a 100% I too water root, and I think there are a lot of advantages to water rooting, all of which you listed. I love being able to see how the cutting is coming along, especially when I have a cutting that is not trying to root in water(there's always a few every year that are harder for me to water root). Nebel's rainbow did this to me. I had 2 cuttings of Nebel's Rainbow, and to make the rooting process even more challenging for me, I was trying to root them both in Nov/Dec. Both cuttings were fresh from my friend Mimi and they were HUGE, probobly around 20 in or so. Anyhow, I tried rooting them in my soiless mix and after a month of being under my 600 watt HPS light for 12 to 14 hours a day, they did nothing, in fact they started to rot. I trimmed the rot off, and actually, once I found healthy plant tissue, I put both cuttings right into a mix of rain water and vitamin B-1. I know that the Superthrive works better but so far, I have had great results with the vitmain B-1 and it's considerably cheaper than the Superthrive. I still use Superthrive on all my trees when I wake them up in the spring.

I think most people are worried that these succulent cuttings will rot in water. I was leary about trying the water method at first but I have seen some excellent results. I think more people really need to give it a try. It's so simple!

Andrew


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I have seen it on the Plumeria page on Facebook as well and it just so happens that the birthday fairy sent me two JL cuttings from Hawaii yesterday, so considering the time of year think I will try this water method...

So just to be clear.. a fresh cut
then put it in water with some ST
inside where it's cooler
change the water every 3 days
hope for the best?
Am I missing anything?

I also have a couple dried up cuttings that someone gave me and they have been in vermiculite for a couple days.. should I try putting those in water??

Thanks, Angela


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Does anyone have pictures of the beginning when you first put it in water? I need a visual of how to water root. Thank you.

Mindy


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Here is are 2 different pictorials straight forward and self explanatory:

Red dusk cutting in water after 2 weeks but looks the same as day 1 except for leaf growth:
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Potted up after 3 weeks in water...freshly potted up in soil:
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Ireens Heart of Gold Cutting pre water 3 days after cutting from tree:
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Heart of Gold Inflo
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5 days into water rooting white popcorn:

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Heart of Gold inflo 8 weeks after being cut from the tree:
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I've got 12 cuttings coming from Derrick in a day or two. I think I'm going to try this on a couple of them. So, just after the roots start to show, you put them into perlite/cactus mix or whatever you're going to grow them in and they should take off and not rot?


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Once you see the start of Root nub or popcorn you should pot up. No longer then 3 weeks in water Max. Then pot up in your soil/medium you pot your Plumies in. Once potted up you should water well as they are use to the water from being in water and ST and put them in a sunny warm/hot location outside or on a heating pad if your in a cooler area to speed up root growth in the soil. Oh and IMPORT thing is to water or keep the soil moist as again the newly forming roots are use to water from the water rooting process. In traditional rooting most keep the soil dry to slightly barely moist.


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OK, that makes perfect sense about the roots being used to being in water. Thanks for that info, I'm going to give it a try.


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  • Posted by No-Clue So Cal Zone 10 (My Page) on
    Wed, Sep 19, 12 at 12:40

I am going to try this in the spring too. :) Thanks James that was awesome. I'm a visual learner myself so the photos were very helpful!!


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NOW thats a cutting!!!
Thanks James.
I'll give it a shot this spring.

Lonnie


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Freak,
Thank you for the wonderful pictures, it makes me understand alot.

I dont have any cuttings right now but when I get one I will try this.

Mindy


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excellent tutorial!

Tally Ho!


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A celadine that I had gotten in the spring started rotting so I cut the end off and tried water rooting. It started getting soft in a few days time so I stuck it in perlite. It never did make it. next spring I think I'll give water rooting another try.


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Hi all,
Enjoyed reading the dialog on this, need to find more time to drop by the forum, more frequently!

The roots did start on the high side of the diagonal cut. From the previous thread, I am still not clear why they start on one side or the other, etc.

freak4: appreciate your comments and photos as well. Part of what made me try this was the fact that the cuttings had started going squishy. One was actually about 50% green, new growth... and it rooted. I have them potted up and they seem to be doing OK.

I do not have nearly the experience it sounds like you do with this, so my observation is merely anecdotal on how long it took.... although I will say that historically other cuttings from these NOID plants are pretty quick to root. That being said I also didn't exactly use a refined process. I basically filled up a container with tap water and put it in the shade and set the cuttings inside it.


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Thanks for starting this conversation. I've always been curious but never tried it except as a last-ditch effort, and then lost those cuttings to rot.

My neighbor has noid reds and Celadines and she says she just plops all her cuttings into a glass of water in her kitchen window until she sees roots. Sounds wonderfully easy!

I think my mistake has been to put the glass in an east-facing sunny window. That, and my cuttings are probably already past the point of viability by then anyway.

Let me be sure I have this straight:

1. Take a fresh cutting and after about three days of drying out, place in a (clear?) cup of water with Superthrive. Rainwater or tap water?

2. Cup goes indoors, out of sun, in a relatively cool area.

3. Change water every few days until "popcorn" on stems or root nubs on end appear.

4. Keep cutting in water no longer than three weeks, then pot up as normal.

Am I missing anything?

Jen


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Jen, that sounds like a decent way to start. I don't know about the best water source- but it seems hard to go wrong with rainwater right?

I would not try this on an expensive cutting (you know, that $600 cutting from EP... lol) but if you have "extras", I find this to be a great way to experiment. Of course if you're wildly successful you end up with lots of NOID plants that need homes :)


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I got lazy and just potted up my cuttings. Though maybe the $600 cutting will root this way. It is superduper after all!
Tally Ho!


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OK, just put 6 of the 12 from Derrick in water, following the instructions, including a 9 tip Aztec Gold!
The rest are:
Samoan Fluff
Nassau
Pinwheel Rainbow
Celadine
Mililani

Took pics so I can follow how the tips leaf out.


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EelWH,

Remember do not keep it water more then 3 weeks, especially as Oct is days away. I have a huge JJ Firestorm cutting I am water rooting, been 2 weeks as of today and I have popcorn on it so will pot it up tomorrow before the 3 week mark. Ill post pics of the cutting and popcorn...
Cheers


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Indeed, will do. I marked the date on the calendar and will be checking them daily and changing the cups and water with Superthrive every second day. Thanks for the information and instructions. I have the heating mats ready for when I pot them up.


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These two have been in water for 9 days, the one on the left has a couple popcorn spots and you can barely see at the edge on the top I think there is a root trying to come out...
What do you think, a few more days??!

Ugh, I don't have a heating mat yet!


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Angela,
OMG they look great! I can see the cut end aka bottom swelling, you may want to give it couple more days. I do not use heat mats as its still warm enough to have roots develop. Dont forget that once you put it in soil you need to keep it moist, watering when the top looks really dry or maybe every 10 days to 2 weeks. You may want to just pot them up and put them in a sunny spot next to your house/wall or fence for reflected heat. If you have an asphalt driveway it will heat up really hot during the day in So cal till end of Oct. Good Luck :)


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I was going to give bag rooting a try?! It seems to be working well for many. I might put one straight into soil and one in a bag just to try it out. I know I have about a month or so before I have to get my heat mat.
However, when they bag root, they do put them on heat mats... I think.. I have just been reading and reading... LOL!!


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Angela,
I think you should stick to one method at a time. With Bag rotting you do not have the opportunity to water the cutting, the root nubs that form in water are acclimated to moisture so they need the water or moist soil to progress or they may die off.... Ultimately its your decision...


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Angela - does the top of your frig get warm?

I was going to sit a few cuttings on top of mine then realized that it doesn't get warm up there! WTH? I guess that's what happens as the years go by and they "improve" products. LOL

Your cuttings look great!


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Freak, You have a good point. Okay I will pot them up in a few days... Do you think a five gallon is to big? My thought is why start smaller, this way you don't have to re pot so much?

Moonie, Thank you! That's a good idea for other cuttings that I will bag up. We have two fridges...the one in the laundry room is older. hmm....


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No, start them in a 1 gallon.


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Angela DeIWH is right. Even if you have a large cutting I always start in a super small container like a SOLO Plastic cup or a 40 oz plastic drink cup or water ball that I cut drainage holes in. The reason you want smaller is that you only want enough potting/rooting medium to surround the cutting, if you have a 5 gal pot the moisture retention is to high. I like the smaller because even if dries out in a day or 2 I would rather water it more then worry about it drying out.
Lynn and a few other wanted to see a cutting I just water rooted and potted up today. Its been exactly 2 weeks 14day and it had a bunch of rootnubs/popcorn so I potted it up early....again pot up water rooted cuttings when you see popcorn or MAX 3 weeks. This is a 3ft 7" cutting of JJs Firestorm that broke off my plant and again its been 14 days and should be rooted in soil by the 3 or 4th week of Oct.

Just out of the water after 2 wks:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-carmageddon-overview-20120927,0,7573525.story
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Popcorn/Root nubs ready to pot..this is what it should look like or the bottom should be swollen:
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Potted up in a 1 ltr water bottle after being watered:
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Again if you water root a cutting the forming roots are use to water and need moist soil to keep on growing. If you let the potting soil/mix dries out it might kill off the new roots and or slow down the progress.


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Angela, those cuttings look perfect. Did you have a rooting powder on them? The white centers look like a caked-on powder.

So James, once you've potted up after water-rooting, you can't use a conventional half-perlite, half-potting mix, can you? It needs to hold a little moisture, so do you use maybe 1/4 perlite in soil?


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Jan
You can use 1/2 Perlite mix or all perlite, you just need to water it like once every 7 to 10 days


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  • Posted by No-Clue So Cal Zone 10 (My Page) on
    Sat, Sep 29, 12 at 12:38

James you have the magic touch! That's simply amazing what you just did! I guess I'll be sending my cuttings to you for water rooting from now on! LOL. What are you doing giving me cuttings when you can do amazing stuff?

Next spring you will teach me ok? :)


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Lynn,
LOL... The point is for you to learn how to do it...lol I actually hate rooting and repotting. If I had my way Id just look at the flowers and thats it..lol


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Okay I found a couple good 1 liter water bottles. Using smaller makes a lot of sense. Thank You!

Jandy - No, I was wondering the same thing, Just cut and then put in the water, no rooting powder??

Freak, I have to agree with you, I have got my plants down great, we made a greenhouse the last couple years with our patio cover, and are fine in the winter, but this is my first try at cuttings!! Ugh!!


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Angela,
If your in Zone 10 you shouldnt need a Greenhouse. My patch is zone 10 and I never move my plants. In the big freeze of hmmmm....2006 or was 2007..lol I only moved 5 gal plants or smaller towards walls of the apartment building the rest I left where it was. It got cold but nothing really froze, some plants ended up cracking just a bit on the bark but that was it no rot or freezing.. So if your in zone 10 I dont think you have to worry too much....but you should make sure your zone is accurate... Cheers


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That's good info to know since this will be the first winter with Plumies for me.

I have 6 in cups now trying the water rooting. It's been 1 week, and a couple appear to be showing a start of the popcorn. Changing the water and cups daily or every other day.


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Del,
You in Woodland Hills, West Hills or West Hollywood. If you live in the Woodland Hills or West Hills you will need to protect your plumies. Even in West Hollywood, you will need to check your night temps as it has been known to get frosty at night there on a rare occasion. If your seeing Popcorn Id see about potting up your cuttings in a week.


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I'm in Altadena, at about 1000' elevation. It gets down to frost maybe once or twice a winter. I'll definitely be checking the weather daily during that time. Most I will be probably moving them into the garage or maybe even some in a spare bedroom. I also have heating mats and lights to keep some newly leafed out plants go over the winter.


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Del,
My sister lives in San Marino so I know the weather well in your area. You will have heat for the next month, so your cuttings should root. The only issue is it gets cold at night, sometimes really cold during Dec on and even frost.
So you will really need to check your temps out daily. I know someone who lives in Upland and swore it never got cold enough to freeze because she was by the hills or mountains and she supposedly had a micro climate. Well that person who said that her night temps would not dip to freezing has had losses from cold/frost over the past years including some of her rare plumies like Red Dusk, JJs Thai peach etc. So since your temps are close to Irwindale and upland Id keep a daily temp watch for your night temps.

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I am inland more, so it's colder. On the coast, I would say not needed at all. We do get in the 30's every winter..not to often, and it's not for to long. I do know a few people in my neighborhood with plants in the ground that have lost to frost. My neighbor and I both have a decent amount of plants and we both use our patio covers. Using our patio cover is really easy and they seem to like it in there :)
This year we are adding lights, and I have a bunch of cuttings that "fell into my lap" in the last month, so they will be happy in there on a heating mat.

The leaves on my two cuttings in water have light green leaves, lighter than normal. One has popcorn, one doesn't. They have been in water for 16 days. When do you think it's time to pot them up? Thanks!


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I seem to be just like Dale, I will be okay for another month, but it does get cold at night! I am in Santee.


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Angela,
You both have similar weather. If your cutting has a leaf open and popcorn then its definitely time to pot it in soil, dont forget to keep it moist not wet. If the other cutting has a swollen bottom then you can pot that up also as some cuttings do not get side popcorn but the bottoms will swell. If not wait for the full 3 weeks on the other cutting without popcorn. I posted an update and pics of my water rooted Firestorm cutting I potted up 7 days ago and it has glistening claws that are up, so leaves should open in the next 3 weeks. Cheers


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I just got back from my honeymoon in Hawaii and brought home a plumeria clipping. The guy I bought it from told me to soak it in water to get the roots going. It has been soaking in plain ol water for about 3 days now and the stem looks like it's starting to wrinkle. It's still pretty firm, but Im afraid it's rotting. Help! Can someone tell me exactly what i need to do and what Im doing wrong? Note: the cutting had already rooted a little bit in the bag but during travel the roots fell off a little bit.

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LEKennedy4,

The bottom of your cutting looks good, the swelling. I cant make out whats on the side, looks like root nubs or popcorn but cant be sure can you post a better/up close pic of the side activity?? Also you should not use glass to water root as it acts as a magnifying glass and will burn your cutting. Your cutting does look a bit wrinkled, do you have it in a bright window???? If you do that could be why its wrinkling.
Again GLASS IS NOT YOUR FRIEND when you water root window or jars....


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PS... Id leave the cutting in the water for a while longer maybe a full week or maybe 2 before potting up. After a full week post pics of the cutting to see the progress so I can tell if its time to pot it up.
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Hi freak4plumeria,

Thanks for responding!! What kind of container do you suggest. Originally the jar was on a kitchen counter with minimal light. I just moved it closer to a window with indirect light. Should I move it back?

About the wrinkling, is it nothing to worry about?

Below are 2 close-ups. Remember, the cutting already had little roots when I bought it, so I dont know if the nubs are from me or not.

Should I change the water? Should I be adding anything to the water?

I appreciate your input and will post an update in 1 week!

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Your wrinkling is not rot, rot is squishy and discolored like a pineapple or other fruits they turn black and soft. I use Plastic cups like giant Solo plastic cups, large cups from Mc Donalds, Jack in the box, Carls, Big Gulps, the plastic helps to block out some of the extra UV that will burn the cutting. Id leave your cutting in the water for a full week as it has sings of growth and pot it up. Dont forget YOU NEED TO KEEP THE SOIL MOIST once you pot it up. With traditional method of rooting you keep it on the dry side, this you need to water once a week or 10 days once its in soil and potted up.


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PS....Sometimes plumies especially from Hawaii have these clear larva things that are in the cutting and it will cause it to shrivel and die also. So keep an eye on the wrinkling as your cuttings in water it should plump up within 3 to 7 days if not there maybe other issues like the Larvas.


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Yes, that would be the larva of the Long Horned Beetle. They basically eat the soft core out.


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Personally Id let the Cutting be in the water and see if it stays hard and plumps up then your fine. If the wrinkling gets worse to the point the cutting when squeeze gives a lot you may have an issue with Larva. Since Hawaii is in such a warm and sunny local sometimes the cuttings do wrinkle a bit especially if its trying to root like yours is as its using up its resources to create the new root system. I have gotten cuttings like yours from Oz, Thailand, Singapore and Hawaii and they all made it with no bug issues. I did get a cutting like yours also from Singapore and it did not ever plump up and when I cut into it before throwing it out I found a bunch of Larva's in it. So again AS LONG AS IS PLUMPS BACK UP OR STAYS HARD YOUR good.. Cheers


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It has been a week and look how happy my cutting is! Im so glad it didn't rot! It's still a little wrinkled but it definitely firmed up a bit. Im going to pot it up today and will be sure to keep the soil moist! Any suggestions on how deep to plant it and what kind of soil? Should I keep it in a sunny spot? Partial shade?
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Nice root! Others may chime in with better suggestions, but I think you should put it about 3 inches deep from the top soil line in perhaps a half perlite/half cactus mix. Be very careful as that root is very fragile. I would put soil in the pot, up to the level you want the bottom to be, then set the cutting into the pot on the soil, holding it steady with one hand and carefully pour in more of the mix all around it, to within an inch of the top of the pot. Then keep it damp, since it's been in water the whole time.


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Yep, I probably would have potted it up couple of days ago. Its ready for soil, keep it moist and you can put it outside in a sunny location, best up against a wall or fence. Leave it a lone and you may see some leaf activity, or you may have to wait till spring depending on how long the warm days last. So at least you know your plumiess rooted, so plant it and leave it alone even if you dont see leaves grow.
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This was a great read...i was going to get some cuttings from a white and yellow across the street and a pink from down the road from my mums place and try and root them so i will definitely be trying water rooting. So you all suggest cooler places...so i shall put them inside...does it need any sun? or can it have no sun...its just any room of mine that gets sun gets too hot and heat causes them to rot right? either that or i could put it in a shady shot in the garage that doesnt get full sun but i mean with 30 degrees cel days im just worried they will rot even in a shady area? Also you said to use cups from maccas or plastic bottles rather then glasses. Are you worried about any remaining liquid or watever from the cups or bottles? i know you can wash them out well but you know how you have a drink bottle that used to be coke or fanta and no matter how many times you fill it with water the water still tastes like coke or fanta? Im just worried if that got into the plant what it would do?

Sarah


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