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starting a meadow from plugs

oogy4plants
20 years ago

It looks like a few people are not hibernating and can maybe answer a question I have about planting a meadow in the spring. The area is about 20'x25'. The area was lawn grass and weeds last year and I have covered it with thick newspaper, cardboard, and leaf layers last year. I expect to have many meadow/prairie plants in the spring using the winter sowing method. These will be first year seedlings.

My idea is to first uncover the soil in the spring and wait for any weed seeds to sprout, apply roundup, and repeat just to be sure. Since I will have (I've heard) a lot of seedlings using the WSM, I am wondering if I should/can plant the plugs of seedlings densely for the first year in order to prevent new weeds from blowing in and sprouting. Sort of a meadow nursery. When the plants get bigger, I can remove some of them for transplanting or trading. Or thin them out if necessary.

Also, the meadow will include grasses and forbs of various heights. Because it is in my front yard and smallish, I am thinking that it would be better to cluster the plant varieties rather than create more of an open grassland. There are some gardens nearby that are very dense and clustered and look pretty good, but I don't know if that was intentional or not.

Does this sound like a reasonable plan?

Any suggestions for plant spacing and clustering?

Comments (6)

  • macfairman
    20 years ago

    Are you planning to go just with plugs? You might want to give them a more mature spacing, rather than really dense, and then mulch and treat the area with a pre-emergent herbicide this first year (Finale and the like or corn gluten meal). This will get the plantlets off to a good start with minimal weed competition.

    CJ

  • woodland_gardens
    20 years ago

    I agree with CJ. Planting them too dense will be a lot of competition and they won't grow as quickly. As far as design, what do you like better? The natural look or a slightly more traditional look? If you're in a city, I suggest the more traditional garden look, with plants in groupings. Your neighbors will have fewer complaints this way.
    nick

  • lycopus
    20 years ago

    Planting 12" apart is a good rule of thumb unless the particular plants will get exceptionally big. I've planted plugs directly into a lawn and this has worked out well. Turf grass doesn't compete all that well with taller plants and will eventually be shaded out or outcompeted for root space. After the first year a burn can wipe out much of the turf and weeds. Since you've already covered the area with newspaper, why not plant directly into that and mulch? I've done that too and it looks very attrractive.

  • oogy4plants
    Original Author
    20 years ago

    Well, thanks for the responses so far. I have no neighbor worries here in this rural area. That's why I love it so! But I am not sure if starting a fire in my front yard would be appropriate. The houses are not that far apart. I was originally planning on a more natural look, but the space just seems a little small to pull it off to good effects. 12" spacing is probably doable and I do plan on mulching between the plants. How fast will first year plants fill in? I realize that only a few species might flower the first year. Does the foliage grow up much or just roots growing? I am new to many things here.
    Thanks for your help!

  • lycopus
    20 years ago

    Each species is different. Last year I started a number of plants from seed. Side oats grew into small plants and flowered. Royal catchfly just sat there as a small rosette of leaves the whole year. In contrast, I had yellow coneflower get quite big and flowers by late summer. Sky blue aster bloomed from plants that I started in February. Compass plant just gets a few leaves, the largest about 12" the first year. Bigger plants like compass plant, rattlesnake master, false wild indigo, leadplant, ect should be given 2 or 3 feet spacing minumum. If you mulch between plants and want them to stand out individually space them even more. On the other hand, keeping them close will produce a dense mass of roots that will stop weeds from invading.

  • oogy4plants
    Original Author
    20 years ago

    Thanks, Lycopus!
    Yes, I will have a variety of plants. Does anyone know how fast any of these will reach mature size? Bloom first year? Crowd out other species? Is this too many species for my meadow (20X25')?
    Ratibida
    Liatris
    Agastache scrophulariaceae
    Aster umbellatus
    Coreopsis tripteris
    Vernonia noveboracensis
    Verbena hastata
    Sporobulus heterolepis
    Monarda fistulosa
    Monarda citriodora
    Silene regia
    Turk's cap lily
    New England aster
    Big bluestem
    Little bluestem
    Showy goldenrod
    cup plant
    milkweed

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