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Being able to purchase plants wholesale

Posted by natalie4b 8 GA (My Page) on
Mon, May 18, 09 at 11:42

Hello,
beside having a retail nursery - what other options does one have to be able to purchase plant material wholesale on line and from retail stores. Would being a Master Gardener help? (I am not, though was thinking about becoming one). I buy a lot of plants for my personal garden, and was wondering if I can save money.
Thank you!


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RE: Being able to purchase plants wholesale

I predict a huge groundswell by nursery men and women everywhere to give you the information you need to help you buy a lot of plants for your personal garden at wholesale costs.
I'd help you myself, but today, I'm just plumb tuckered out from having to serve real, paying customers all week. My last day off was in March - my next day off will be about July 5th - as usual. But maybe I can find a little spare time to help you pay less for the product I grow and sell and try to make a living at.
You're welcome.


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Wholesale purchasing is generally reserved for those in the business - landscapers, designers, retail garden centers, etc. It typically requires a business license and often a retail nursery endorsement as well. It is not intended for "discounted" sales to the general public or to hobby gardeners and one will often generate some heated feelings from those involved in wholesale growing if proposing this type of inquiry :-)

By "a lot of plants" do you mean purchases in the 1000's of dollars on a monthly or weekly basis? That's the typical customer wholesalers service. You may be able to qualify as a master gardener for a small discount at some retail nurseries as a courtesy, but it is nowhere near wholesale pricing. In my area, retail nurseries don't even offer wholesale pricing to professionals - there is a professional discount offered but again it is nowhere near wholesale. Wholesale pricing is reserved for wholesale customers with substantial buying power.


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I just had a customer ask me this question in my garden centre. She wanted to know if she could get 1/2 price if she purchased "a lot" of plants, When I asked her what "a lot" is to her, she replied "oh, 12 or 15 six packs"!

Sorry, but I agree with ninamarie. This is how we make our living. Would you provide your time and wages at 1/2 price? Would you agree to having your salary cut in 1/2 by your employer? If so, please let me know what business you are in and I will come over to get that deal.


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I want to apologize for stating a question like that. What I actually meant is purchasing plants with discount. I don't see it as a fair practice for retailers not to make money on their sales or loose money in order for people like myself to buy wholesale.
Sorry!


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Natalie, it's totally natural and normal for you to want to find the best bargain you can. Humans have been trying to find ways to skirt retail prices for hundreds of years, lol! We do it when buying groceries, furniture, clothes, and just about everything else. I, for one, won't scold you at all.

The reason that your question ruffled some feathers is that, generally speaking, the mark-up in THIS particular business is pretty thin and the over head can be high. It is also labor intensive, and those who are actively involved in the production of these 'wares' value their hard work, rightfully so.

Today, the public's best chance at bargain basement prices exists in the big box stores. Quality, selection, professional assistance, and other factors might be missing, however.

You might want to seriously consider growing a few things from seed, too. I find it pretty easy to grow hundreds of annuals and perennials for my own use (and sharing with friends) with little mess and not a whole lot of space. In your climate, you could do quite a bit outside.


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Rhizo_1,
thank you for being so kind and understanding.
I totally agree with your point, and appreciate all the hard labor that professional gardeners and landscapers put into their work and effort.
Again, everyone, please accept my apologies. I stand corrected.
~Natalie


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Natalie,

Check over in the wintersowing forum - there's many folks that do mailing of plant/seeds and then those who participate in onsite plant swaps. As a personal gardener this may the way to go to save money and get some unusual plants that work in your area.

Even if you decide to go into the pro end of it buyiing wholesale means you would also have to mail the state on a monthly basis all the sales tax it is owed on items bought.

Hey, I'm going to the swap mentioned in Skokie and I work in the trade. But this is actually for fun for my own garden though - lol.


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I'm a wholesaler, but am set up to service retail customers if they come in and do. My wholesale pricing isn't even posted and I don't give wholesale pricing to retail customers mainly because if I did, I'd be directly competing with my bread and butter, the legitimate wholesale customers who buy from me. If they went to such and such g'house I sold to, or a strictly retail store with a plant section, found out the plants came from me and then approached me to get it cheaper than the people I sell to, I'd lose my customers and my credibility.

I do have some customers to whom I sale plants at wholesale prices, but they order massive amounts. This would be corporations who landscape perhaps or golf courses, but I still have to tax them since they are the end user. I demand certificates of exemption too for true wholesale and if it's perennial stock, I also need to see their nursery stock certificate.

I occasionally get a small landscaper whom I suspect is buying for friends and family. I can't argue with them if they say no when I ask them if it's for private use, but I do ask so that I can tax appropriately if it is. I have to keep immaculate records of non taxable sales for audit purposes. Some wholesale g'houses will not even mess with taxable sales.

I will sometimes give discounts on retail prices to certain groups like garden clubs doing public projects, or community gardens, or educational groups. Heck, often I donate those.

Your question didn't offend me, but if you could see some of the manipulating we sometimes get from people who are not as honest and straightforward as you, you'd understand why triggers get tripped.


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I have been in the wholesale plant business all my life. In front of my nursery there is a huge sign that says "WHOLESALE ONLY". I find it humorous (sometimes aggravating) when home owners come in and ask "I know the sign says wholesale only, but I don't want to pay retail pricing. Could you sell to me?" It baffles me that they are serious. Although your question seems legitimate in your mind (and I know you didn't attempt to offend anyone when you asked it), it strikes a nerve with most wholesalers. The reason being is that the wholesale growers put a lot of pride in what they do, and they try to keep good moral and ethical values. Selling to retail customers would not only undercut their customers, it would also undercut their ethics. The loss of business caused by compromising those values might be enough to put some of the smaller wholesale chains out of business. It seems that your average retail customer does not appreciate all of the hard work, time, knowledge, and patience that it takes to grow a quality plant. Plants seem to be the most under-appreciated commoddity that most people take for granted. Could you immagine the world without the wholesale grower. Un-landscaped houses and businesses. City blocks of nothing but concrete and buildings. No flowers for your children to enjoy. Think about it... wouldn't it be a rather boring and unhappy world? Some people want the cheapest plants they can find, but in my opinion plants are priceless!


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RE: Being able to purchase plants wholesale

  • Posted by laag z6CapeCod (My Page) on
    Sat, May 30, 09 at 17:31

There is another practical reason why some retail nurseries do not offer volume discounts. It is simply that they can only get certain stock at certain times of the year. That time is generally in the spring and it usually fills every inch of space that they have available at that time. In other words - many have a one shot deal at stocking the nursery. Once it is gone, they can't replace it. This means that if they are likely to sell out, it hurts them to discount to anyone.

The thought that the buyer has is that (s)he is buying more plants IN ADDITION TO what the retailer would. The seller knows that selling to the "volume" buyer at a discount price DISPLACES the sale at full price because they can't restock it. .... especially if you would otherwise still buy from them.

If you will sell out at fullprice what you can't replace, you would be throwing away money by selling it for less.


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