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Classic vs Modern shrubs

kokosrose
19 years ago

I'm judging my first show this Saturday. One of my assignments is Modern shrubs. I don't know the difference between Classic and Modern. Can anyone help me out, JUDGES?

I want to make a good impression.

Comments (2)

  • phil_schorr
    19 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The Classic shrubs are the Hybrid Kordesii, Hybrid Musk, Hybrid Moyesii, and Hybrid Rugosas. They are identified in your Handbook for Selecting Roses or your Official List with the abbreviations for those classes - HKor, HMsk, HMoy, and HRg. The remaining shrubs are all shown in those references with just the symbol S. They are the Modern shrubs.

    The two classes should be separated in the show schedule and in their placement on the tables, so finding the Modern shrub class shouldn't be that difficult. They will likely include a bunch of Austin roses and a smattering of others. As you judge each new cultivar you can look it up in your reference to see that it has the "S" symbol after the name and not one of the Classic shrub indicators (or even an OGR class indicator or climber class indicator). Don't fret, I'm sure you will do fine.

  • Rgschwerdt
    19 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Kokosrose,

    The following is a supplement up to date list of roses as of (10-19-04) that were registered, and with corrections after the 2004 “AEN” and the 2005 Handbook were published. For a complete list of all Modern Shrub and Classic shrub roses prior to the publication of the 2004 AEN, download from this Garden Web forum the following. The “2004 Classic Shrub Rose List” posted 5-15-04, and the “2004 Modern Shrub Rose List” posted 5-14-04. The AEN or Handbook is not complete or up to date as you can see by some of the latest entries. If you have any problem, I can always e-mail you a copy. Good luck.

    Ron S.

    MODERN SHRUBS: (S)
    AFTERGLOW-------------------------PB------2004
    ALNWICK CASTLE-----------------PB
    ANTIQUE ARTISTRY----CRL)---AB------2000
    ANITA M------------------------------OP
    AUSTRALIAN SUNRISE-----------PB
    BELLA RENAISSANCE------------MY-----1995
    BERLITZ-------------------------------MR----AEN
    BEULAH BELLE---------------------MP-----2001
    BLYTHE SPIRIT----------------------MY----2000
    BLUE FAIRY---------------------------M-----2003
    BLUSHING KNOCKOUT-----------LP-----2004
    BRIGHT CARPET--------------------MP-----2004
    BUCKAROO--------------------------PB------2003
    CAROLINE HAIRSTON------------AB-----2004
    CASA LOMA--------------------------DP-----1996
    CELEBRATION 2000----------------DY>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RABBLE ROUSER
    CLAIRE LABERGE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HRg)
    CHARLES HAMLET BUTLER----MP-----2003
    CHARLES RENNIE MACINTOSH----PB>>>>
    >>>>>>>CHARLES RENNIE MACKINTOSH
    CHEERS TO YOU-------------------YB------2001
    CHERRY MEIDILAND-------RB---1995>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>CHERRY MEILLANDECOR
    CRIMSON FLOORSHOW----------DR-----1999
    CRIMSON KNIGHT-----------------MR-----1997
    CRIMSON VELVET------------------M------AEN
    CHRISTOPHER MARLOWE------OR
    COLONIAL DAYS-------------------DR
    CORAL CUSHION------------------OP------2004
    COTTAGE GARDEN-------LP---1995>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MIX ‘N’ MATCH
    CROWN PRINCESS MARGARETA---AB
    DAME DE KOBENHAVN-----------W-----AEN
    DANIEL BOON-----------------------DR-----2004
    DAY DREAM-----AARS-------------M------2005
    DEANE ROSS-------------------------PB
    DESIREE-------------------------------PB-----2004
    DR J. F. MILLER---------------------DP-----AEN
    DOTTY LOUISE---------------------DR-----2001
    DOUBLE KNOCK OUT------------MR----2004
    DOUBLE SCOTCH WHITE--------W
    DU PRE’ TELL-----------------------LP
    ELIANE GILLET---------------------W------1998
    ELISO----------------------------------DP-----1998
    ENGLEMANN’S QUEST-----------DY----2004
    FAIRMOUNT MEMORY-----------PB
    FAITH-----------------------------------M-----2002
    FIRECRACKER----------------------MR----2004
    FOXY PAVEMENT-----DP----1988>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SEE BUFFALO GAL
    FUNNY--------------------------------PB-----2004
    GUINEVERE----AB---1997>>>>>>>DELETE
    FRAZZEL-----------------------------RB-----AEN
    HABITAT FOR HUMANITY------MY----2004
    HAPPY DAY--------------------------D[-----2004
    HEIDESCHNEE----------W---1998>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MOON RIVER
    HOME RUN-----9-24-04------------MR
    HOT DIGGITY-----------------------OR----2002
    HOT WONDER----------------------MR----2004
    HUDALSROSEN------------MP---1860---(XX)
    JANE BULLOCK--------------------MY----2004
    JANET---------------------------------OP
    JAUNE BICOLOR-----------YB---1633---(XX)
    JOANNE-------------------------------PB-----2001
    JOE GRAY------------------MP>>>>M
    JUBILEE CELEBRATIONS-------OP
    JULIA RENAISSANCE------------LP-----1996
    JULIE LYNNE ZIPPER-------------LP
    KNIRPS--------------------------------DP----1997
    LADY ELSIE MAY-----AARS----OP----2005
    LADY PHELIA-----------------------PB
    LEMON PEARLS MY---2003>>>>>>>(HBc)
    LEXY----------------------------------MP----2000
    LITTLE BUTTERFLY--------------PB----2000
    LOCHINVAR------------------------LP
    LORDLY OBERON-----------------LP
    LOUISA STONE------AB---1997>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>-----(F)---------------GUINEVERE
    LOVESONG-------------------------LP------2004
    LUISA STONE------1997>>> GUINEVERE
    LYNNIE------------------------------MP-----2002
    MAGENTA FLOORSHOW--------M-----1999
    MAJESTIC---------------------------LP-----2004
    MALONE----------------------------PB------AEN
    MARGARET H---------------------MY-----2001
    MEIR Y TERAN--------------------PB------2004
    MOONGLOW------------------------W
    MORTIMER SACKLER----------MP
    MY GRANNY-----MP----1991-----(DELETE)
    NASHVILLE-------------------------RB----2001
    ORANGE IMPRESSIONIST------OB----2004
    OREGON TRAIL--------------------OP----2004
    PALS NIAGARA----9-24-04------MR
    PANDA MEIDILAND--------------W-----2003
    PAUL ECKE, JR.----8-27-04------OB
    PEARLY DRIFT-------W----1981>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PEARL DRIFT
    PEACEFUL HABITATIONS-----MP-----2001
    PETAL PUSHERS------------------MP----2004
    PETER BEALES--------------------MR----2000
    PICTURE OF HEALTH------------AB----1999
    PIMPERNELLE------DY---1997>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PIMPRENELLE
    PINK BIANCA----------------------MP-----2002
    PINK CHALICE--------------------MP-----2000
    PINK COTTAGE----LP---1998>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MIX ‘N’ MATCH
    PINK DELIGHT--------------------MP-----1999
    PINK GNOME-----------------------MP----2004
    PINK KNOCK OUT----------------MP----2004
    PINK LANDSCAPE---------------MP-----AEN
    PINK MYSTERY-------------------DP-----1997
    PINK PASSION---------------------MP----2004
    PINK TREASURE------------------MP-----2004
    PORCELAIN DE CHINE----------LP>>>(Ayr)
    PURPLE FLOORSHOW-----------M------2002
    PRARIE SUNRISE--->>>PRAIRIE SUNRISE
    PRECIOUS DREAM---------------PB>>>(HBc)
    PRIDE MEIDLAND----DP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>SEE CHERRY MEILLANDECOR
    RED HEDGES-----------------------MR----2000
    RED SEAFOAM--------------------MR----2000
    REPUBLIC OF TEXAS------------DY----2004
    ROCKWELL SESQUICENTENNIAL----LP
    --------------------------------------------------2003
    RON RUDDLE----------------------OB----2004
    ROSEBERRY BLANKET---------DP----2004
    ROSE-MARIE------------------------W
    ROTE APART-----MR---1991>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SCARLET PAVEMENT
    ROUNTUIT--------------------------PB-----2000
    ROYAL AMBER--------------------AB----2000
    RUBY VOODOO--------------------DR----2004
    RUTH CLEMENTS-----------------OP-----2000
    SAFARI-------------------------------OP-----2004
    SALMON IMPRESSIONIST------OP-----2004
    SARI HOU----------------------------LP
    SCARBOROUGH FAIRS----------LP
    SCARLET RANGER---------------MR----AEN
    SCARLET RIPPLE-----------------RB-----2004
    SPIRIT OF FREEDOM------------MP-----2003
    SPRINGTIME-----------------------MP-----2004
    ST ALBAN---------------------------DY
    ST CECILIA-------MY-----1987>>>>>>>LP
    STAR DUST-------------------------W>>>(HBc)
    STAR OF THE REPUBLIC-------OB-----2004
    STARBURST------------------------MY----2004
    STARS AND STRIPES-------------PB----2004
    SUNSHINE SALLY----------------MY----2000
    TANGERINE JEWEL-------------OB>>>(HBc)
    TASMAN VENTURE--------------DR
    THE DIXON ROSE-----------------MR----2004
    THE GENEROUS GARDENER---LP----2003
    THE INGENIOUS MR FAIRCHILD----DP
    THE NURSE--------------------------W-----2004
    THE PINK PROFESSOR-----------DP----2004
    THOMAS AFFLECK---------------DP-----2000
    TIDAL WAVE-----------------------PB
    TWEETY-----------------------------MY----2003
    VAL JOHNSON-----7-30-04------MP
    VARIETY CLUB-------------------OR
    VICTORIAN GOLD----------------DY----2004
    WHAT a PEACH--------------------AB----2002
    WHITE PAVEMENT-----W1991>>>>>(HRg)
    WILDEVE----------------------------LP
    YELLOW FLOORSHOW---------YB-----1999


    CLASSIC SHRUBS:
    HYBRID MUSK: (HMsk)
    COSMO-------------------------------LP------2000
    LOVELY LADY---------------------MP-----2004
    MRS. NANCY CANNON----------M
    MME D’ARBLAY--------------W---1835--(XX)

    HYBRID RUGOSA: (HRg)
    CLAIRE LABERGE-------------------MP
    HUNTER PINK------------------------MP-----2001
    KILMORE ROSE----------------------DP
    LAVENDER WHITE RUGOSA-----M------2002
    PEARLY WONDER-------------------W------2004
    PIERETTE PAVEMENT------DP----1987>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YANKEE LADY
    SNIFFER---------------------------------M
    STREAKER-----------------------------M
    WHITE PAVEMENT------------------W-----1989
    YANKEE LADY---DP---1987>>>>>PIERETTE

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