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Some of the progress in my Mother's Garden

Posted by jeffcat z6 Cbus, OH (My Page) on
Tue, May 10, 11 at 23:54

Well I had to change my rental location last year, and ended up basically taking all of my potted roses and planting them in my Mother's yard....her home has rather lackluster landscaping and almost no color after spring when the phlox and tulips are done, so I felt good adding the roses. This will be the first year the roses will be weathers over for the most part. I'm planting more here in the future. It's definitely a work in progress, but the side of the house where the "rose garden" will be looks a lot better than it ever has before. It was a major PITA to get it prepped as it was almost nothing but stone and boulders under old plastic mulch bags...I was worried the ground would be too poor for the roses to even survive, but it appears they have and are doing well so far.

Here is the Charles Darwin in a pot...went through the winter in the garage quite well...planted as a potted rose last summer....it should explode in blooms in the coming weeks.

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Some roses she purchased probably from a bargain store...she wants them to climb the deck, but I doubt they do...they aren't quite vigorous enough so I am planting "Spirit of Freedom" in between them.

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Side of the garage....still needs a border....but it's a red/white combo of 4 William Shakespeare 2000s and 2 Winchester Cathedrals where the trellis's are. The white doesn't exactly stand out with a white background so clematis is going up the trellis to cure that.

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You can't really see it, but a new Just Joey and Medallion just went in along the side of the house and she has a random rose by the shepherd's hook with purple clematis.

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Just Joey $2 rose from Menards....doing well so far.

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Medallion is also starting to leaf out

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I can tell she didn't really do much here besides dig up the lawn and plant stuff because all of the grass is going up in the area haha. It's getting all dug up. She has 2 rainbow colored roses in there.

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Europeana leafing out.....kind of shaded by the burning bush at the moment.

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Double Delight fighting to keep up with the infestation of Columbine.

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A red rose I transplanted from the north wall...no clue what it is....probably Oklahoma or something along those lines.

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Pascali

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Peace

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My Graham Thomas I planted in the ground in Columbus...surprised it survived winter in it's chopped up state, but it's thriving now. I need to make some lattice for it to go up. Dublin Bay is going to be planted next to it.

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Most red and white along the front until I get perennials in. From left to right, Europeana left of burning bush, Double Delight behind duck, red rose on left side of window, Pascali right of window, Peace to the left of Graham Thomas.

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My old potted Bishop's Castle....seems to be enjoying it's new found ground....own root Graham Thomas cutting behind it in the ground.

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This little Graham Thomas cutting was planted last October and survived the winter no problem...all I did was mound some mulch over it.

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The porch will be covered in a mix of Graham Thomas, Dublin Bay, and clematis. I built the obelisk last year and Abraham Darby is inside it....Abe has never really been as large as he has been claimed to be, but maybe that will change this year. The space between the tulips and obelisk was cleared out...more roses going in...not sure which yet.

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Abe in his cage.

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The "rose garden"....this side of the house has been absolutely devoid of life for almost 20 years...it was nothing but stone and NOTHING was in it until I planted these roses last fall, so it's nice to see it have something for once.

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Mirandy survived the winter...not an antique/English rose, but the fragrance is just absolutely to die for so I took a cutting of it.

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Haha the other Double Delight....I can't believe this TINY little thing survived the winter. It's been rooted now for almost a year, but it just won't take off. I get the feeling it will shortly though as it's starting to put out some new growth.

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This rose was already here last year before I started...completely defoliated and looked awful and almost dead...nowhere near the case this year with a little TLC and fertilization. No clue what it is, so I'm excited to see the blooms...it's not her typical rainbowish rose though because it has different growth....looks like it has potential.

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Paul Neyron cutting in the foreground, Sharifa Asma in the background.

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Baron Girod De L'Ain

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Golden Celebration came out of the pot and into the ground....it is coming out very nicely. I'm interested to see how well it does in this spot as it will get almost all day sun and ground to grow.

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Evelyn got chopped back to about 12" all around and is rewarding me with new canes and more mannerly growth as of now.

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My lone surviving Pat Austin hanging on by a thread. 4 of the others died...1 due to winter, the other 3 just died completely randomly this spring after they put out nice new spring growth then just died for no real apparent reason.

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I wanted to plant roses here, but she must of found motivation to do some landscaping of her own. She moved the Pat Austin to the center of the bed and then put 2 "smaller" hot pink mini roses on the ends...not sure if they will live or work out there, but I've never seen life in this "container", so it's almost shocking to even see. I had to dig out the soil last fall and put in 29 bags of fresh soil.

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The stone on the right side of the walkway was all that "garden" was last year before I started. Crown Princess Margareta is most likely going up there to grow along the side of the house.

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Still going to plant some more roses...not sure what and where yet though....brainstorming. The "boulders" on the edge of the garden are what I dug up last fall just planting the roses.

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I'm excited to see the before and after on this side of the house....life has been devoid over here even since I was a kid living at this house...that's about to change in a month or so.

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Life is a little colorful around the house. This is as yellow as yellow can be.

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Only about 3 more weeks or so....many of the roses have these....this is Charles Darwin teasing what the future brings.

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RE: Some of the progress in my Mother's Garden

Thanks for sharing. It's interesting that you could over winter the Charles Darwin in a pot. Please post some more pictures when the roses start blooming.


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Great job, the garden of your Mom looks wonderful now. Almost all your roses are looking very good. I am sure you will get a wonderful spring flush. I got two Charles Darwin roses last year and have not seen a bloom from them, yet. Hardly can wait for them to flower...

Christina

Here is a link that might be useful: Organic Garden Dreams


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I've never had any issues wintering over potted roses through the winter in Z6 or 5B. Charles Darwin simply went into an unheated garage and got like 2 glasses of water through the entire winter. Zero problems. What was more impressive was when Pretty Jessica, Winchester Cathedral, Evelyn, and Sharifa Asma were tiny little own roots from Heirloom and High Country Roses planted in August/Sept and managed to make it through the winter perfectly fine 2 years ago with absolutely zero protection sitting outside.

I bought Charles Darwin as a Star Rose as a local nursey in Columbus last year for $10. He bloomed for his first flush, but the repeat was sporadic. He seems much more fuller and vigorous this year though so I expect the repeat to be good this year. This is what he looked like during his first flush last year....a very interesting rose...starts out yellow with pink and bronze outer petals then quickly fades to an almost pure white within a day or so for a "double rose" effect. The white versions look like they bloomed that way. It is very fragrant when you catch it.

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A very weird color....appears yellow from a distance, but closer up, it's more like a slight bronze.

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This isn't my Charles Darwin, but a beautiful specimen.

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Fantastic job Jeffcat, everything looks great and wow, that you are doing cuttings already! Baby roses are looking very cute! At first I misunderstood and thought that all of your climbers had already climbed so it looks like yours are still at the growing stage- the large ones being your mom's original planted ones. If I remember, most of your climbers are grafts right? Sometimes I wonder if climbers would have been better off as a graft in a cold zone because the own-roots do fantastic at first and get huge but then frustratingly enough winter comes along and hacks down all my hopes, lol except for just 3 of my climber roses. An example was Crepuscule. It grew from a 5" baby band with 5 leaves to a vigorous huge rose with one 5'7" cane with tons of side stems and leaves. Now that baby band is back down to a 7" mini bush with 2 flower buds on it on a very thick basal, lol! That's all that's left of Crepuscule....

I bet the ones that you have that are grafts are going to reach all their climbing potential right away and will make your Mom's garden look so beautiful! I love the delicate side plantings too!


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I'm not really sure if the grafted varieties make a difference or not. Graham Thomas was grafted and after a slow start, made it up to almost 8ft in his 2nd year. Abe Darby however is an own root and doesn't grow very vigorously(yet). In all fairness though, GT was in the ground, and Abe was in a pot. I've noticed a lot of the roses kind of just "linger" then inexplicably explode in growth once the roots kind of hit their sweet spot. I bury the crown on all the roses in an effort to protect the crown and also to encourage them to own root if they are grafted varieties. So far the ones I bought are:

Graham Thomas(grafted..may have own rooted...the other is an own root cutting)
Golden Celebration(own root)
Evelyn(own root)
Sharifa Asma(own root)
Pat Austin(originally grafted, but mine is obviously an own root cutting from when I moved and left the old one behind...dang it)
William Shakespeare 2000(I believe the parent and cuttings are all own roots)
Winchester Cathedral(parent was originally grafted I believe, but cuttings are own root)
Charles Darwin(grafted to my knowledge...may have own rooted by now)
Bishop's Castle(grafted I believe...may have own rooted)
All of the HTs are grafted except for Mirandy and the small Double Delight which I took from cuttings so they are own root.


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Great job, Jeff. I think it's all going to be gorgeous once the roses grow a little and bloom. You've done a lot of work which is going to pay off very soon. I also have Charles Darwin and am really fond of it. Mine has a slightly different color which I suppose has to do with out different climates. Either way I think it's a winner.

Ingrid


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I have to admit the guilty pleasure since I "technically" own zero roses now that this side garden is kind of my "experiment" to grow as many roses as possible while still making it look good. So while they are her roses, I still fertilize, prune, and ultimately plant all of the roses...it's my garden away from the garden haha. She's not well adversed in rose growing or roses in general...has no clue what an antique or english rose is. I'm hoping she kind of "wakes up" to the rose world after seeing the initial flush of roses. She is a big clematis lover, so I think she could grow more fond of them. Let the enabling begin haha.


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Your story is like a novel, interesting and exciting and I am impatient to see all the roses in blooms.

The blooms you posted are fantastic too. Please keep us updated!


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Thank you so much for sharing your "hard work" with us. That garden is going to be just beautiful. I really feel your landscaping has added so much to her home. I would be over the moon if either of my boys had the interest or time to help me with my rose gardens! I know this was your childhood home, and means much to you. You have done a fabulous job! Congratulations!!! And post bloom pics! Lesley


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A great post! I can't wait to see it all in bloom and am looking forward to that. You are so lucky to have such a wonderful spot to plant your roses in and your mother is lucky to have you doing it, too.


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Its going to be lovely!! I worry about the Graham Thomas being so close to the porch. I don't really have winter dieback here but my GT was 10 x 8 easily. Do you use that porch?? ;o)

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I know Graham Thomas will be large. 10'x8' is easily believable even in Ohio. I am making my own lattice for the porch to train Graham Thomas to grow up as a climber. Haha, yea, without the lattice, that porch would be engulfed in Graham Thomas and Dublin Bay.

I also ordered 7 roses from Roses Unlimited for the house today....will probably order some more from DAR next week.

Queen of Sweden
Charlotte
Carding Mill
Hunting Rose/Alan Titchmarsh
Dublin Bay
Mary Magdalene
Spirit of Freedom

Next week I haven't finalized my plans, but will probably get these from DAR:

L.D. Braithwaite
Munstead Wood
Crown Princess Margareta
Lady Emma Hamilton(for a pot)....or maybe a small pink rose.


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Just an update since I have my rose orders coming in...like Jim said before...things are behind this year with all the rain but I should see the first blooms this weekend...when it's supposedly supposed to be sunny and sunny for a stretch longer than 2 days.

The Charles Darwin pot looks quite different as it's topping off with growth and putting the energy into buds now. It will be interesting deciding how to prune him after the 1st flush...still thinking that one over.

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Her rainbow colored "climbing" roses. Spirit of Freedom is going between them...my only concern is it will be below the north lattice for a while and won't get much sunlight until it fills out more.

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Not done, but managed to tear out the grass and mulch in the area around the garage....still need a WS2000 cutting to root to place in the empty spot to the right of the hydrangea.

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This WS2000 has been exhibiting some weird behavior. If you look closer at the darker leaves, they are larger and a little different from the others...I'm wondering if it's a sport or something else...guess I won't know until it blooms.

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My old band from High Country of Winchester Cathedral...last year at this time it was TINY and I didn't even know if it would survive...now it seems to be thriving and on it's way to maturing.

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The other WC cutting I took off of the original WC...doing well.

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The original WS2000 I bought in Columbus...glad it survived the transplant.

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Another one of the WS2000 cuttings...this one is a little yellow from all the rain.

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Just Joey, Medallion, Europeana, Double Delight, and Pascali still leafing out.

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Anybody know what perennial this is?...it's quite colorful and the bumblebees LOVE it.

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She mustered up some gardening will and tore out the little area that was overgrown with grass and phlox and planted annuals...the 2 roses are doing better as well...need mulch...LOTS of mulch.

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Lots of weeds and fern needs moved but little Peace is on the left and Graham Thomas is done growing and budded up...kind of funny seeing GT so small.

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Bishop's Castle seems to be a later bloomer than most simply because it has so many buds on the end of canes that it takes quite some time for the rose to put energy into their development.

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The little GT on the other side of the porch...actually has a bloom on him.

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Abe Darby seems to be getting a LITTLE more vigorous now. I just need him to throw out some thick and tall canes that others get.

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Already ordered all these roses...should be in the mail soon...this is what I'm thinking.

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What I plotted out....should be pretty full once everything matures.

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Another one of my mother's unknown roses...it's pink...I know that much. I was under the impression it was a smaller rose based on the growth but it is throwing out some LONG canes...those canes aren't even budded either and are still growing.

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Queen of Sweden to left of unknown rose and Carding Mill to the right of it...notice how I already have the holes dug out in anticipation haha.

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Mirandy cutting has no buds yet this spring but....it's rewarding me with some new basal canes which is equally as rewarding.

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This cracks me up...Double Delight....still the same size it's been for almost a year now haha. I'm sure the root system has to be fairly dense by now, but it's struggling with top growth as the cutting was fairly thin...but it hints that it might grow with some basal buds.

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Paul Neyron might be an antique rose, but he blooms pretty well. He had a bloom last year as a cutting and this year seems to be doing well.

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Baron Girod de L'Ain has no buds....and probably won't get any blooms this year even though she is a HP just like Paul Neyron but I know BGDL will need some patience to get established in growth first before I start seeing some blooms. The growth looks really good so far.

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Sharifa Asma with the newly planted Summer Blue Delphinium...this should be a striking combo of soft pink with soft blue. Sharifa was a Heirloom band.

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Golden Celebration is quite....dense. Foliage is a little light from all the rain, but it's budded up and ready to go.

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Evelyn was a High Country band a few years ago. Last spring she was just 2 4ft long canes and nothing else. This is the 1st time I've seen her in a state where she looks like an actual rose bush so I'm interested to see what the effect has.

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Heirloom rose is leafing out nicely...not an english rose but close enough and it has an interesting color...for $2 I can't complain.

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Not the soil of the garden...VERY rocky before falling into clay. I want to plant Crown Princess Margareta here but I'm still undecided as the hose is right along the wall so CPM kind of "gets in the way". I'm thinking about running PVC pipe underground and running a feeder hose from the spicket on the house to the hose reel which would be moved outside the garden.

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A cloudy shot of the side...holes already dug for Huntington Rose and Charlotte...and CPM.

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Pruning a rose is more like just taking a lot of cuttings haha.

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A lot of trees have been cut down in the yard but some of the mushrooms still thrive...especially in this wet weather.

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I dug up the Pat Austin cutting that died...they all looked like this...all had sufficient root systems, all put out growth this spring, then bam....died...so bizarre.

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Poor picture, but does Evelyn do this for everybody else? When she puts out new growth her leaves are all shriveled up initially before reflexing and flattening out...doesn't seem like an issue, but always found that to be a little odd.

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It was pretty much a miracle that the sun came out after all the rain and clouds if only for a minute so I took a pic of the sun...that's what happens when you never see it.

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Some of the salvia that was planted as plugs around Golden Celebration...4 for the price of 1 larger one, so we shall see how they do over time here.

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And I thought I would finish up with my mother's dogs...which are more or less my dogs since I'm the only one that walks them haha.

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  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Fri, May 27, 11 at 16:10

You've been working really, really hard and it shows. Your Mom's garden looks great. Wonderful thread!

Is that purple flower Nepeta? Pensetemon? It's lovely, as is everything else.


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I planted the RU roses this morning. Looks like I might get a bloom from my non-RU roses maybe tomorrow or at the latest Sunday...plus no super rainy weather helps.

I found out what the purple perennial was...it's ajuga...I just couldn't remember the name. It's a little ground cover that puts out blooms...the bees love it as it's kind of like salvia.


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  • Posted by jim1961 5/6 Central Pa (My Page) on
    Sat, May 28, 11 at 14:56

I just now seen this thread. Your doing a great job there jeffcat! Love the doggies...


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Despite all your fallen football heroes you have something to show that is well-grounded.


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Haha don't worry Mark. As a recent tOSU alum, I saw that one coming from a mile away. Personally, I'm glad Tressel and more than likely the Tat-5 are gone. I never really liked most of them to begin with on or off the field.


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