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Tea Clipper and Evelyn

I was hoping 'Tea Clipper' could replace my diva 'Evelyn'. Jury is still out on 'Tea Clipper' but it is not bad so far. The scent is a fairly strong sweet tea. It looks like it will grow large.

Tea Clipper



Tea Clipper



Tea Clipper



Tea Clipper

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HOWEVER, 'Evelyn' still blows everything else out of the water. She's still the Diva...

Evelyn

Comments (29)

  • sanrosa
    15 years ago

    Beautiful photos. Evelyn is on my wish list. I wonder how she would do in dry zone 5? I love the rose soap from Crabtree and Evelyn, the scent which from this rose is (at least in part) supposed to arise.
    Tea Clipper looks so pretty, too.
    Thanks for sharing. Your photography is inspiring.
    Sandra

  • carla17
    15 years ago

    Does Evelyn just shine because of her age and fragrance? Did you get your TC from J&P?
    I saw pictures of TC last year from someone in UK, it is a pretty rose. Great photos too.

    Carla

  • peachiekean
    15 years ago

    Gorgeous pictures. My TC is growing tall and no problem so far. It's had mostly one to a stem blooms.

  • pacnwgrdngirl
    15 years ago

    Gorgeous as usual hoovb! :o)

    Does Evelyn stay on the smallish side? Does she do good in a vase? They have some fabulous J&P Evelyn's at our local nursery and I have earned garden bucks to spend.....

    Adrienne

  • hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    Thanks for looking at my pictures!

    I wonder how she would do in dry zone 5?
    I don't know. Here she's a Diva. Rebloom could be a lot better, and rust/mildew resistance could be better.

    Does Evelyn just shine because of her age and fragrance?
    I think it is the silk-satiny quality of the petals, the delicate color, and yes the fragrance which is really prime, peach/lemon/old rose.

    Did you get your TC from J&P?
    Yes.

    Does Evelyn stay on the smallish side?
    Not here.

    Does she do good in a vase?
    For about 24 hrs, yes. Maybe even 36 if you cut the flower when it is about 1/3 or 1/2 open. The flowers are very heavy and nod over so florist wire helps. A heavy vase is a must as well because the heavy flower cluster will topple a bud vase.

  • mauirose
    15 years ago

    Hoovb have you been taking photography lessons?

  • carla17
    15 years ago

    Hmm, Maybe before I officially quit I need Evelyn. I'm into fragrance for sure.

    Carla

  • hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    Hoovb have you been taking photography lessons?

    No, I sure need to. I try to learn from LaBrea (Joe) photos. I study them. He's so good. Mine will never be that good but I can try to improve.

  • peachiekean
    15 years ago

    I think your pics are excellent!

  • ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
    15 years ago

    Evelyn is indeed beautiful but I think Tea Clipper is quite noteworthy in its own right. I'm glad you posted a picture because I don't believe I've seen this rose on the forum before. Your pictures are great, by the way, no matter what you may think.

    Ingrid

  • iris_gal
    15 years ago

    I only had one Austin ~~ Heritage ~~ for a long while and was disappointed in vase life . . . . . . . . . . . . bought Evelyn anyway due to the gorgeous pics here. And there is something about her that satisfies my soul. Also got Abe - nice but not the same love affair I have with Evelyn.

    Are Tea Clipper's blooms the same size as Evelyn? Looks quite lovely.

  • ermingarde
    15 years ago

    I love Evelyn, she did well for me in zone 4 where almost nothing else did and now she does well for me in zone 9 too. What I love the best is the color variation--you never know what shade of beautiful she is going to be next!

  • gnabonnand
    15 years ago

    I can see why Evelyn satifies your soul ... that's awesome.

    Randy

  • nattaporn
    15 years ago

    Very beautiful! I love your Tea Clipper very much.

  • BecR
    15 years ago

    Gorgeous, there really is something about Evelyn, isn't there! Are the blooms huge? I saw a plant in the nursery a while back and the bloom was small. No room for a large rose bush at this time, but I sure was thinking about it. Becky

  • hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    The blooms are large but not huge. They are heavy--the flower is very dense and packed with petals stuffed in every which way. So the flowers tend to nod even though the stems are strong.

  • Molineux
    15 years ago

    TEA CLIPPER is pretty but lacks EVELYN's gracefulness. Tea Clipper's flower form is slightly ragged and a wee bit "loose". Compared to the THE DIVA she is just a silly ingenue.

  • iris_gal
    15 years ago

    Oooh molineux ~~ what an excellent image with words!

    Thanks hoov for the extra description. hope we see more pics of 'tea clipper'. loose can be good.

  • gnabonnand
    15 years ago

    Is Evelyn very thorny? She sure looks excellent, and I keep hearing people rave about her scent.

    Randy

  • carla17
    15 years ago

    Do you really think a rose could actually live up to and beyond Evelyn? I grow several Austin's and put up with their BS lol, for the beauty and fragrance. I NEED Evelyn don't I.
    Hoov, have you ever tried the Austin Emanuel, wow talk about a fragrance!!

    Carla

  • Molineux
    15 years ago

    I do not find EVELYN to be very thorny. David Austin remarks in his catalog that she has few thorns. In my experience the canes are moderately armed but it can vary. Some canes are nearly nude and others more thorny than usual. IMHO the amount of thorns is just right: enough to know your dealing with a rose but spaced far enough apart for safe grasping.

  • gnabonnand
    15 years ago

    Thank you, Patrick!

    Randy

  • moodyblue
    15 years ago

    Great pictures Hoove. I have never seen Tea Clipper before. It looks so like Evelyn which I do have.

    Thanks for posting them
    Pauline - VI

  • phonegirl
    15 years ago

    Both awesome roses. If I keep looking at all of these beautiful roses on this forum I may have to make a rose bed next year. I have room in my yard but I'm not sure I have time to take care of them properly. Thanks for sharing.

  • arockerdude
    15 years ago

    "I was hoping 'Tea Clipper' could replace my diva 'Evelyn'. "
    Why would you replace Evelyn? I like to think of Evelyn as my girl friend out there. She smells so darn good! Her petals are so darn soft! I thought of getting rid of her in the beginning because she gets fungus and Black Spot. But she eventually shakes it off. She is well worth it. I went out and bought another one a couple of years ago so I could experiment moving her around to different locations. I found she gets sick pretty much anywhere I put her. Oh well. Now I have two beautiful girl friends that smell and look good. :)
    Hoov your roses are amazing as always!!! Dave

  • hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    Thank you Dave you are very kind!

    'Evelyn' is just not a great rebloomer for me. I can deal with the disease--she rusts up pretty good here--but lack of rebloom is a serious flaw because she's right out by the front gate in one of the best spots in the whole yard. 'Tea Clipper' is proving to be a bit stingy--we'll see how it does next year...

  • peachiekean
    15 years ago

    Gail,
    I don't know how tall this baby is supposed to get but my Tea Clipper has turned into a jolly green giant. I had to put up a plastic rebar teepee just to keep all the canes reined in. This plant is on the corner of the border (I was expecting it to be more round) and it has been spilling out onto the sidewalk. Is yours doing this also??
    Not many flowers either. I'm hoping it will put out some fall blooms but so far, just growth.
    Mary

  • jumbojimmy
    15 years ago

    Hoovb,

    Is your Tea Clipper almost completely without thorns? I have one, and I'm surprised that mine is very thorny than Heritage.

  • hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    Mine is reasonable, but not huge, as of 9/23, around 5'. It's been producing a few flowers non-stop since spring, just 2 or 3 at a time.

    It has a few thorns, but not many, say one every 18" or 3 or 4 per 5' cane. My Heritages had a few less than that, say 1 every 24" of cane.

    I hard-pruned Evelyn after the spring flush this year. I took her down to 3' and she's back up to 7', but she bloomed very well on the way back to 7', much much better than in prior years when I did not do that.