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Unknown rose

Posted by johnsaunt 7 (My Page) on
Fri, Nov 7, 08 at 18:07

The rose is EXTREMELY thorny! Barbs all along the main underside vein of the leaf, and all along the stems. It's presently growing past a second story window on the east/southeast corner of a brick row house in the Georgetown section of Washington, DC. It gets hacked back every couple of years, but regrows quickly. I believe it is in an old bed that also has the most vigorous wisteria in the world! My shop is inf the house with the window--the rose & wisteria belong to the neighbor. He doesn't mind if I steal his flowers, but I've never been in his yard to see what the bed looks like. And I can't lean out the window and look because the roses would tear me to shreds! I suspect it suckers because the area that the bush covers is huge.

The rose was probably planted about 25 years ago when the neighbor had the back yard landscaped by a very well-know landscape architect. It seems to get very little care and does not seem to have any problem with disease. It seems to take care of itself.

Someone once said it might be Darlow's Enigma, but some customers of mine who are landscapers said that since it's a rebloomer, it can't be an heirloom rose.

It gets full sun most of the day. It grows against a brick wall & there is a brick courtyard to its east that reflects heat and light.

The flowers are miniature, creamy yellow opening to almost white when full blown. It's such a great rose, except for the thorns, I'm rooting cuttings so I can plant it at home. That plastic baggie trick really works!

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RE: Unknown rose

Could it be Buff Beauty? Just a thought.
Kathy


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RE: Unknown rose

I think its flowers are too small to be Buff Beauty. Fully opened they are usually only an inch in diameter.

The closest anyone has come is Alister Stella Gray, except my rose is very thorny and ASG is not very thorny. But maybe I just have an unusually thorny version.

Ginny


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RE: Unknown rose

If it's not a modern, try the antiques forum. You will most likely get more responses.

Carla


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RE: Unknown rose

  • Posted by rosyone z8 north Louisiana (My Page) on
    Sat, Nov 15, 08 at 16:05

It definitely isn't Darlow's Enigma and probably isn't Alister Stella Gray either.

My guess would be Danae, which has much smaller blooms and lots of small thorns near the ends of its canes. The canes are much smoother at the bottom, but you may not be able to see that from your window.
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RE: Unknown rose

  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Thu, Nov 20, 08 at 19:22

I would ask over at the Antique Rose forum, I think you'll get an answer. Not Alister Stella Grey, that one has very few thorns and the flowers occur in large clusters of a dozen or more.


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RE: Unknown rose

The Danae looks like it might be the one, but when I googled it, the height was no where near tall enough. This rose is past a second floor window and heading to the third floor. I'm going to make a bunch more cuttings and see if I can root enough to trade. It's such a beautiful bush.

Ginny


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Sorry! Posted on wrong forum!

I thought this was the Rose ID forum. Sorry!

Ginny


 
 


 

 


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