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Cardinal antique rose?

Posted by msrose zone8TX (My Page) on
Sun, Apr 15, 12 at 10:00

I wish my camera took better pictures :(
We have local nursery that has beautiful plants, but the majority of them don't have names on them, which drives me crazy. I was there last weekend and saw an interesting rose. When I asked the guy what it was, he said "It's an antique rose". I said "Okay, but what's the name". He told me it was called Don Creeper. I had never heard of that, so I went home and looked it up and couldn't find anything. I had heard of Ralph's Creeper, so I looked that up and I'm pretty sure that's what it is. I went back to buy it and they had another rose they didn't have last week. We had a dejavu conversation. "What is this rose". "It's an antique rose". "Okay, but what's the name". "It's called Cardinal". The leaves were really shiny and it was so healthy looking that I decided I would take a chance and get it without reading about it first. Of course, I can't find anything on it. There were a couple of roses with the name Cardinal on HMF, but there's not much info and no pictures. I really have my doubts that Cardinal is this rose's name and I also have my doubts that it's an antique since I'm pretty sure Ralph's Creeper isn't an antique and he told me it was. He told me that it will get about 3 feet tall and has a spreading habit.

Here it is next to one of my Drift roses to show you a comparison of the leaf and bloom size.

You can kind of see the shiny leaves in this one.

Also, there's no fragrance.

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RE: Cardinal antique rose?

Which of the two roses is the one in your lovely photos?

Dawn Creeper is pink and old-fashioned looking. It could be the first rose you wrote about, and I'll put a link below.

Kardinal is another spelling variation, but the one I know is a hybrid tea rose.

Here is a link that might be useful: Dawn Creeper

RE: Cardinal antique rose?

So, there really is a Dawn Creeper. I was just spelling it wrong! I still think mine is Ralph's Creeper instead of Dawn Creeper. Here's the picture of it:

RE: Cardinal antique rose?

I think that you are right -- it looks like Ralph's Creeper.

When I was searching for something else, I came upon a photo of a new rose called "Thrive" with blooms and leaves that remind me of your first photos.

I'll put a link to the HMF listing:

Here is a link that might be useful: Thrive photos

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