rose #1 - cluster flowered (5 petal, yellow stamen, hot pink to white, < 1"), +/- 2.5', open, spreading,stiffish canes, flowers constantly (really), sun/shade and forms small round hips.

rose #2 - double flowers at end of cane (bright lavendar pink, fades to very light pink, +/- 2" blooms), stiff canes, woody with age, upright to 6', spring/early summer only.

and, finally, rose #3 - big (7 X7)open, speading arching, blooms old wood, cluster flowered (+/- 1" 5 petal, white, yellow stamens, full sun, very few no prickles, once blooming spring.

hopefully, you all will be able to identify these where i have failed. thanks in advance, christie

Looking at it, you would almost swear it was a species rose, probably R.Canina. But Canina would not be in constant bloom; it would bloom once and that would be it. So I'm guessing Nearly Wild.

The last one may be a Multiflora hybrid of some sort, but I'm not sure about either the 2nd or 3rd.

You could try searching on HelpMeFind (link below).

a good call on #1 being nearly wild, but, no. bloom is <1" and not nearly as thorny. also bush form is more open. but the colours are very close.

i have searched hmf and other sources, but i am still coming up short on final id.

i am thinking, tho that #2 may be madame isaac pereire? at first i thought maybe maggie, but then i saw maggie - not maggie.

someone suggested that #3 might be rosa multiflora itself.

so, what about #1? any insights/info would be greatly appreciated, thanks again, christie

#3 is pretty clearly the species multiflora.

ballerina is a great call, except it isn't ballerina. leaves not as elongate and darker green. flowers are smaller clusters v. ballerina's huge panicles. it is more constantly in flower than ballerina and only about 2.5', narrow shrub and not sprawly. canes are more upright and not as lax.

i know, it is very hard to tell from a pictures, especially one of my pics. but, i really appreciate your input. it just surprises me that this is not a well known rose, it has great attributes.

any thoughts on #2? miperiere was my only thought, but ...?

again, thanks, christie

i think part of the problem w/ #2 is my lack of photographical expertise. i have more pics, but i am not sure they are any better.

the bloom really is more purple or lilacy than the pic seems to indicate. when the bloom fades, it fades to a real purple, so that would be the underlying tone.

the bloom itself is 2". it is a once bloomer for me and is an unprotected z5 location.

mipereire was my best guess after being able to rule out a few other options. can i ask why you think it is not mipereire?

thanks for your input, christie

Olga

michael - i believe mignonette is a double. #1 is a 5 petal single, but, again, a good thought.

olga - beautiful picture. and, clearly shows, mine is not mip; you are absolutely right.

so, once again, i have two that i cannot identify.

thanks again, if you have any furthur thoughts, i would really appreciate the input. christie

The middle rose looks like a multiflora rambler (which are
more stiff and upright than the wichuraiana's. Maybe 'Alexandre Girault'?

Perhaps NEroseman could be persuaded to have look?

altorama - i got the other post and followed back to here. don't know why this one doesn't notify when there is a message.

mine is only a single, never double. i have started several different bushes from the first; these show some variation in colour. from pale pink to bright bright hot pink. but, as i said, only ever 5 petal singles. your pictures appear to show some striping, is that typical?

does the shrub form compare? stiffish canes but open to about 2-2.5'?

i'll look up agirault. i hadn't really considered it with regard to any ramblers.

thanks to you both, christie

altorama, mine is very upright and stiff with an open form. constantly (really) in bloom. it is a wonderful shrub. like yours, the older it gets,the taller. i have two that are almost 3.5'

michael, my mature shrubs are cane hardy in zone 5. in fact, they are quite exposed (i do have some very protected areas) and still the shrub keeps most it's cane. the more mature ones are quite 'woody'. it is one of my first roses to bloom and one of the last left standing.

i am so glad to have this identified. thanks to you both, christie