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Mystery large red rose (30+ years old)

Posted by radagast US east coast (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 20, 09 at 18:47

Here's one for you folks to think about - an unidentified large red rose that has been in my parents' garden since before they owned the house. The previous owners must have planted it, but they never said what it was.

Here are some key traits of this mystery rose.

1) It is over 30 years old since my parents bought the house in the late 1970's. Since they didn't have a lot of free time after moving in, the rose was probably not newly planted even then. The house dates back to the mid 1960's, so it's possible the rose goes back that far as well.

2) It produces medium-sized red flowers with many petals - it doesn't really look like a hybrid tea to me, but I'm no rose expert. Flowers appear regularly throughout the growing season, often in clumps of about 5 from the same stalk.

3) The rose is incredibly tough. It grows near the overhang of the house (where water has trouble reaching) in full sun, and it thrives on neglect. Hybrid tea roses (Tropicanas - blackspot magnets) were planted in a bed near it, and over the span of a decade or more, they all died despite receiving a lot more care than this old fella. It does get some blackspot, but it just keeps on growing.

4) It is huge. At full-size, I have seen the flowers atop sturdy canes stretch up to the second story window above it.

I'd love to know what this rose is since I like roses, and though the unaffordable housing in the area gets in the way of me having a rose garden, a durable red-flowered monster like this fellow would be nice to have.

I've attached a late season photo of the flowers on this rose. Any help ID'ing it would be appreciated.

Image link: Mystery large red rose (30+ years old) (54 k)


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RE: Mystery large red rose (30+ years old)

It reminds me a little of Proudland which sotimes looks very ht but other times gets a muddled look. It was a very popular rose in the mid 70s.
Curious question were you ever Howard if so this is OC


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RE: Mystery large red rose (30+ years old)

Hmmm... Proudland is the right era, though the flowers on this one seem "tighter" - the photo (sorry, I haven't been able to get a better one) is of a fully opened flower. They are densely packed with petals in a rather "un-hybrid tea" like pattern.

I'm not Howard, but good luck finding him.


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RE: Mystery large red rose (30+ years old)

  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Sat, Sep 5, 09 at 15:55

Might have gotten there as a rootstock. Looks too small-parted for a Hybrid Tea.


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RE: Mystery large red rose (30+ years old)

A rootstock had crossed my mind since the previous owners knew little about gardening and the plant has a large "stump-like" base with canes that come up from multiple areas vs. all coming out of one bud union.

Well, if it is a rootstock, it certainly is a nice one.


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RE: Mystery large red rose (30+ years old)

Even if you aren't Howard, is this rose in Howard County Maryland?


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RE: Mystery large red rose (30+ years old)

Nope: The rose grows in New Jersey. If you've seen a similar one down here, that would not surprise me since I doubt that it was a rare rose for its time.


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