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Posted by TamaraVa z7bVa (My Page) on Sat, Apr 10, 04 at 8:20
| Hi, I was wondering if anyone has used this product from Gardens Alive on their roses.It is a biofungicide.I may have introduced the downy mildew spores to my garden on a mailorder rose last month.The rose is gone ( it devastated it before I knew what I was dealing with). I'm hoping it hasn't made itself at home in my garden for I have a couple other roses.Copper is out of the question as are any other fungicides which can harm fish ,for my garden backs up to a waterway which flows into the Chesapeake Bay.Thanks for any information you can shed on this product.Tamara |
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RE: Serenade solutions,use on roses?
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| You can find this at Mc Donald garden center , if you're in the Tidewater area. There's a $3.00 off coupon in their newsletter. |
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| I am also intrigued with what I hear about Serenade. Has anyoe used it? I'd like to hear what people experience. Perhaps it is as yet too new. Paula |
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| I've been using serenade for about 5 weeks now on Roses, Tomatoes and Rosemary to fight off black spot, powdery mildew and early blight and it is the best organic fungicide product I've ever used. Stopped early blight in its tracks and seems to have done the same with powdery mildew (although baking soda works well there too). |
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| That's good news about Serenade Solutions, as I bought some this winter and haven't had a chance to use it yet. I usually stock up on anything new offered by GA in their pre-season sales, and then I forget I have them. Thanks for the reminder! I also got Green Guard, their harpin-protein wettable powder product this year. I sprayed it about a week ago, but I really can't tell what it's doing. |
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| I just purchased "Serenade" to help the blight on my tomatoes. It came highly recommended. I also saw the add in Gardens Alive for "Serenade Solutions". Does anyone know if they are one and the same? I believe it was less expensive in the GA catalog than the product I bought. |
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So Sorry you lost your Rose. Rose Pharm could have saved it had you just stripped the leaves and treated the canes and the soil at the base of the plant. We have a rust problem here and we strip the entire 10ft tall climbing rose (Golden Showers) every spring, treat with Rose Pharm ( last 2 years) and the plant stays rust free all summer. I try to stay away from biological cures as I do not believe they are necessary. |
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| they are not the same. /Abi |
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- Posted by LizzieA z9 CA Sunset 17 (My Page) on
Tue, Jul 5, 05 at 17:48
| I looked at RosePharm in the nursery and it claims to be a pesticide not a fungicide even though it contains some potassium bicarbonate. So, I would assume it would kill off the good guy bugs too. |
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| Pesticide is a group name (the large circle) that includes the subset fungicide (smaller circle inside the larger pesticide one). i.e. all fungicides are pesticides, but not all pesticides are fungicides. Another example, all herbicides are pesticides but not vice versa. Another all insecticides are pesticides but not vice versa. |
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| Serenade Solutions and Serenade Garden Disease Control have the same AI. I use Serenade Garden Lawn Disease Control in my lawn every week and I use the RTU on my tomatoes...and have gotten great results. |
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Gardens Alive was selling a product called "Serenade Solutions" a couple of years ago. Last year they changed the name but after a lot of trouble I got them to admit that what they had was the same product. I get their catalogs but haven't even looked for it this year (in their catalog) because there is a much better source. All of the Serenade line of products is made by Agraquest. They are associated with a company called Enviroquest (www.enviroquestllc.com but at the time of this writing their website seems to be down). Last year I bought a 6 pound bag of Serenade Max for $72 with shipping included. 6 pounds is a lot but the maker assures me that as long as it is kept dry it will last for 5 years or more. I've put it into clean glass jars, sealed them tightly and put them in a cool location. And yes, it does work as well as some posters say it does. The only thing I've found about that is that you should apply it early, well before you expect fungus problems to start. If you figure out the Gardens Alive price you will find that it comes to about $50 per pound and that's really high, four times the enviroquest price plus a large shipping charge. That's true of many of the Gardens Alive products - high prices for small quantities of materials that you can get much more cheaply if you look around. |
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If you need to apply any pesticide, herbicide, fungicide as often as some here suggest they do there is a problem with the health of the plants that needs to be looked at and corrected. If you repeatedly have problems with plant diseases and insect pests you need to look closely at your soil, and have a good, reliable soil test done, because your plants are growing in an unhealthy environment. "Conventional" gardeners may have these problems but on e of the basic tenets of organic gardeing is that plants grown in a good, healthy soil will grow up strong and healthy and better able to withstand pests and diseases. It is not normal for plants to always have these problems. |
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| kimmsr, do you live in a glass bubble or something? We understand soil health is very important, but, fungus and pests problems are a really bad problem in many areas of the country, whether the soil is great or not. Major climate differences around the country. Yes, I do agree, ones soil should be the best it can be for healthy growing plants, but, it's just not a cure all for every problem. |
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| I dont want to get off track or anything but I think the question was. " should I use serenade on roses or has any one used it does it work ect.. ect... ect..." my responce is YES and Yes and Yes again Yes you can use serenade on roses and yes I use it on my roses and yes it is very effective in my opinion Where you get it from doesn't matter I will only suggest you get the concentrate over the pre mix it'll save you money Does it work well or is it effective? After my purchase of serenade I found that I plucked fewer leaves wiht a ratio of 16-25 a day to a meer 4 -7 per week of of five test roses after a three week trial I use it on all my roses for BS control Did I have any other fungus born problems on the roses grow like powdery mildew downy spot ect ... no not any other problems where noticed with outher fungus born rose diseases on the serenade test roses and as well all other roses with the exeption of minis Serenade may be a tad to strong for them in my observations and opinion I am at current time re testing two minis in a manner I think as right, one with less than label instructions and the other with label insturctions I wont know the results untill next season the leaves are changing colors by nature here now, noone can ever control that how did I get the results I got: your results may be different but I read and follow the label on any and all rose growing products I use with the only exeption I mentioned on 2 very close to my fromt door minis (sorry a retest was started to late) why did I choose serinade 1 its organic 2 it still cost less then any other non organic premix muti problem claiming false add product 3 it has a better guarantee than a non organic go for it read one from the other guys other cautions include: DO wear some type of eye protection when applying DO wear a long sleeve shirt when applying DO wear gloves when applying serenade DONOT apply when bumble bees and honey bees or other benifical insects are active or seen in garden or plant area(s) for you jim: I was hand airating one of my rose beds and shook about 600 or so of them pesky ole earth worms. I might want to address some soil problems huh ? |
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