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Knock Out Rose and Black Spot

Posted by greenguy09 TX (My Page) on
Sun, Aug 23, 09 at 16:33


I have 10 well-established knock-out roses in my garden. They all have good access to sunlight and air circulation. Since I moved to Houston, I have never had any problems with my roses and they were prefectly OK. This year, I have noticed that all of my roses got black spots on their leaves. I have tried Bayer fungicide for roses, another fungicide with Sulphur smell and color, and vinegar. I removed dead leaves and cut the dead/infected branches a week ago.

1- I know that there are different organic recipes for the black spot with different outcomes. What's the best practice you think would be? I am not crazy about full bloom roses. As long as my roses survive and bloom next year, I am all happy.

2- I used to water the roses once in 5 days early morning for 30 min. I was advised that I should water more so I now I am doing it every other days. Do you think that my watering schedule promote the problem?

3- In Houston there is a record-high drought and there have not been rain since mid-may to mid-Aug. I wonder, when there is not much rain around, why the roses got black spot? In contrary last year when there was more rain, my roses stayed quite OK.

I would really appreciate your feedback.

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RE: Knock Out Rose and Black Spot

Just how often to water any plant depends on many factors starting with the soils ability to retain moisture and release that moisture to the plant. Clay soils tend to hold large amounts of moisture and not release that to the plants while sands tend to be too well drained and not retain any moisture which is why lots of organic matter in either one will help the soil to be evenly moist and well drained and can make that moisture available to the plants.
There are some people that rigidly maintain that wetting a plants foliage will create conditions that result in plant diseases while I have seen plants get diseases when the foliage is not wetted while watering, except by rain. I have also seen plants no get any disease even after the foliage is sprayed while watering, and some believe that spraying the foliage washes potential disease pathogens off so they cannot develop.
I have seen Black Spot on newly purchased roses just in from a nursery and I control that with sprays of 1 teaspoon of baking soda mixed in 1 quart of water or a 50/50 mix of fat free milk and water, sprayed every 5 to 7 days.

RE: Knock Out Rose and Black Spot

This problem will go away by itself when the roses grow bigger. My knockout roses also had this problem, now they are all ok.

RE: Knock Out Rose and Black Spot

All of that extra watering might be a contributing factor to your problem. Black spot is one of the diseases that MUST have moisture in order for the propagules to germinate and to spread.

It is powdery mildew that requires no water, and can be rinsed off foliage before the fungal spores germinate, without creating an environment for infection.

You should know that Knock Out roses are quite drought tolerant and do best if not over watered. Every other day is too often for almost anything, other than a very thirsty vegetable garden. Frequent, shallow watering cycles promote shallow, limited root systems.

Even in times of serious drought (and believe me, I have lived through that), fewer but deeper watering cycles are best for the plants.

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