Since you have not got a reply I will answer you. These are both very popular roses. It is not likely that someone is going to have a spare one laying around that they don't want and since both of these are patented that is your only hope.

Your best bet would be to order them online. I have 2 of both of them. PJP was ordered from Jackson and Perkins. Ebb Tide was ordered from Jungs (If I were you I would order this one from Chamblee's). Go to help me find .com (minus spaces) and look up these roses. There will be a tab at the top which will tell you where they are sold.

HTH
Sunni

my pope john paul II has a weeks company tag on it and in small print it says it's a P&J rose.

I've been looking for ebb tide for months and can't find it anywhere in canada.If anyone has a link or a site or anything where I can find it in canada can you please post it to me.thanks

woody64,

'Ebb Tide" is in stock at hortico.com as of August 23, 2011
Hortico is a canadian nursery which ships to the u.s.
Ebb tide" is a lovely and fragrant rose, with rich purple hues like an old Gallica but "Ebb Tide" re-blooms. ... I never thought I'd compare a modern rose to a Gallica.
If you love purple roses, check out "Reines des Violettes" at helpmefind.com /roses, Hortico sells that too and it is one of the best roses of its class.
Luxrosa