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Can soil cause sports?
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Posted by carlota So. Calif. z.10 (My Page) on Sun, Jul 12, 09 at 22:56
I am curious to know if anyone here has studied the effects of soil on the possiblility of sports? My first sport occured in my mothers garden and her soil is made up of rich home made compost.
Now I am wondering about my Mr. Lincoln. Our soil here is incredibly rich and I have been amazed by how well everything grows. I am suceeding with plants that have failed before, and when we moved in there were nothing but weeds, once we started watering all sorts of plants shot up and we are amazed. So far, we haven't needed to feed or amend at all.
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RE: Can soil cause sports?
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Not unless you are near a nuclear bomb testing range.
Sports are genetic mutations, that are occuring constantly, and which account for the wide variations in nature, and explain how and why evolution is taking place, and has taken place. For example, take 2 of the chimpanzee's chromosomes, and put them back to back, joint them at the centromere, and you have an exact match for the human chromosome number 2.
other of the human and chimpanzee chromosomes show an exact match for NON-mammalian genes: the result of a viral infection of the DNA is an ancient animal that was the fore runner of the gorilla, chimpanzee, and the human.
It is highly unlikely that a God creator, would have done this, in an attempt to highly mislead the medical researcher. This also explains why 94% of US scientists vote Democratic ticket, and only 6% of all US scientists vote Republican. It is far more likely that man invented a fable, made God a player in the fable, and used this as an instructive lesson in human spirituality, to be interpreted strictly as an allegory. And then for man to abuse this fable, and to use it as a tool of manipulation and control.
So the answer is no, the soil does not give rise to sports, no more than rotting meat gives rise to flies. |
RE: Can soil cause sports?
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Klinko16,
Carlota had a valid question concerning sports and instead of simply answering her question, you have interjected your darwinistic, athiestic-propaganda. This site is for the love of roses and their propagation, keep your views on creationism versus darwinism to yourself. |
RE: Can soil cause sports?
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| It is worth noting that "klinko16" has very likely operated on the forums under multiple account names, often with a "troll agenda". I wish GardenWeb would enable an "ignore" function so users could choose not to view any posts by a selected member. I think many of us would find such a tool useful. |
RE: Can soil cause sports?
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- Posted by carlota So. Calif. z.10 (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 24, 09 at 18:46
Hi Learn & trospero (I remember you from way back!)
Thank you for taking my question seriously. Have any studies been done on soil types causing more sports then others? I know certain types of roses are more prone to sports then others but could soil, feeding or even whats in the local water also play a part?
I think it would be an interesting experiment, however it would be very time intensive and control of the environmental factors difficult.
Rosy Thanks,
Carlota |
RE: Can soil cause sports?
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| this is not my "view". this is simply a presentation of facts. if you don't like facts, then say so, but to call me a troll, when i'm just giving a very nice discussion of how genetics works, indicates why Galileo was excommunicated from the Church - because they wished that he would burn in hell. Unfortunately for them, he didn't. Also unfortunately for many many other people, they made life a living hell, and continue to do so. such as their own citizens in the middle ages, and such as the population of Iraq and Afghanistan in today's world. |
obviously you didn't look at my thread on
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| Come see my rose hedge that I propagated myself, on this forum. If you looked at that video, you would see Winchester Cathedral, and lots of "sports" or "reversions" to the original Mary Rose. If you think that I'm a troll, then I wouldn't have such a huge rose garden, planted in, of all places, the Holy Lighted Cross Garden. Show me a picture of what you have done. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Does this look like a troll garden to you?
RE: Can soil cause sports?
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Hi Carlota,
I don't believe that soils play a role in the creation of sports. As you have stated, some varieties are highly prone to sporting and will do so often. 'Dick Koster' and the 'Radiance' group are famous for this. Although I don't personally have empirical data to support my opinion, I seriously doubt soil types play a role. Klinko16: many contributing members at Garden Web, not just myself, will point out that this forum is a place for discussing our gardens and their care, not a place for expressing ones political/theological opinions. If you want to call that censorship, thats fine, feel free. However, I think you will find such "dialog" is deemed inappropriate by many members. I can only conclude that it is your goal to inflame people to start a heated "discussion" on your chosen topic. I hope we all have the good sense to refrain. "Show me a picture of what you have done." I'm not interested in answering to this kind of challenge. People who know me, know about my accomplishments and thats all that matters; I feel no need wear my accomplishments on my sleeve. Regards,
Paul |
RE: Can soil cause sports?
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- Posted by carlota So. Calif. z.10 (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 25, 09 at 12:30
Hi Paul,
I remember some of your babies. How have they grown?
Do you know if Mr. Lincoln is prone to sports or Simplicity? My Mr. Lincoln is sporting and so is my red simplicity. I posted this discussion on the main page about Mr. Lincoln and the first thought was the weather. Well, the reblooming has begun and sports remain. Half the bush is what you would expect the other half a magenta-ish, the smell is identical and so are the leaves. I've been watching the bush very closely. My other Mr. Lincoln is still blooming dark red.
Maybe I should start an experiment. Would my husband object to the cost of buying 20 or so Mr. Lincolns? Since he's a scientist I'll present the idea to him, but he may object.
Rosy Smiles,
Carlota |
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