New Wanted Swap! You will look at members who sign up for this swap list, then choose items from their list to send them. Please make sure it is on someones want list, ALTHOUGH extras can be sent in and be given at random. The plan is to have seeds sent in from your want list, I can not predict how many will come for you. So if you send in 150 then you may only get 60 sent in for you. IF there are enough extras sent in I will make it up, if not I may not be able to cover you. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS, my stash IS limited at the moment. Remember, this is based on the packets sent in to you, although I would like for it to be fair I have no control over who sends to whom, OR how many extras may be sent in.

1. There will be no limit on the amount of seeds you send in. However, they must be marked with the person they are for, either by a number they will be matched too OR their GW name, extras that maybe included could be placed in a zip baggie with EXTRAS listed on it. This will be used to fill in any gaps there maybe in make-up returns. IF you do not want the number you send in returned to you then PLEASE let me know in your package.

2. You will get the seeds sent in to you UNLESS there are 5 packs of the same thing THEN they will go in a duplicate bowl and distributed among everyone.

3. You will have until Jan. 31 to sign up and the envies must be sent to me by Feb. 20 this will give everyone time to update their list.

4. YOU MUST HAVE A WANT LIST!!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR HAVE LIST BUT THE WANT LIST IS A MUST! Otherwise no one will know WHAT to send you! IF YOU PLAN TO SIGN UP PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE UPDATE YOUR WANT LISTÂyou will have time to update BEFORE sending but PLEASE at least have something for us to look at.

5. This will be for packets received only, I will Âtry to match your returns with the number you send in, HOWEVER, I have no control over the number actually sent so you may only have a few packets sent to you, which will be available for return. UNDERSTAND THIS IS A ÂGIFT TO OTHERS SWAP.

6. Please send in a bubble envy with enough postage to send back to you. If it cost you 4 stamps to send to me then please include at least 4 stamps back. MY POST OFFICE IS ONE THAT TENDS TO OVERCHARGE HOWEVER (irks me too!) But I will handle that I guess.

7. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU SEND IN TO ME BY FEB. 20th I plan to have these back to you by March 7 before then IF everyone sends in on time. BUT I would really like to have them back to you no later then the first week of MARCH. MAKE SURE YOU UPDATE YOUR LIST AFTER YOU RECIEVE FROM ANY OTHER SWAPS YOU ARE IN UNLESS YOU WANT DUPLICATES OF WHAT YOU ALREADY RECEIVED.

8. HAVE FUN!!! If you have a specific question you may ask it here.

9. Limited or HARD to come by seeds may be a lower number, but if you have plenty of something please include a good amount just in case some have trouble starting seeds. Large seeds of course 15 to 25 would be ok, like bean seeds. OK?!


Also this will give you some time to get some things Winter Sown and maybe you can share some of what you might have left over and it will allow you to receive some more last minute wants in time to STILL winter sow them!!!


OK, marking seeds for the person they are intended for, you can either tape them to an index card and list the seeds such as:


1. Dianthus "Siberian Blues"


2. Aquilegia/Columbine ÂRuby PortÂ


OR you can type them to a sheet of paper with your list


OR you can simple place them in a baggie with a list and name of whom they are for.


OK, I think I have covered a lot, I hope! Please sign up! Thanks, I look forward to hosting for you!


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NOTE: When your mail you bubble mailer to me, you also need to include an address label for returning to you and a list of what you sent in so I can make sure NOT to resend your seeds back to you if there are any extras to send back to anyone.

IMPORANT MESSAGE FOR ALL: PLEASE REMEMBER SOME OF US ARE PLAYING IN OTHER SWAPS AND WE WILL NOT UPDATE OUR PAGES UNTIL WE RECEIVE THOSE ENVIES BACK. I WILL RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THOSE OF US WHO WISH TO UPDATE UPON ARRIVAL OF OUR OTHER PACKAGES THAT YOU WILL GO BACK AND CHECK OUR UPDATED PAGES


FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WILL BE UPDATING AFTER RECEIVING SWAP PACKAGES PLEASE POST ON THE THREAD WHEN YOU HAVE UPDATED SO THAT WE WILL KNOW TO GO LOOK AT YOUR TRADE PAGES AGAIN BEFORE MAILING OUT...THANK YOU


REMEMBER GET YOUR TRADE PAGES STARTED IF THEY ARE BLANK, and those of us who are in the other swaps we will be updating a little later so let's try to wait and send in until we can check those members list.


Those of us who are in other swaps will POST TRADE PAGE UPDATED when we change our info!


NOTE: No one needs to start sending out until around the 7 or 8 of Feb, that way this will give them time to look at those of us list that have been updated from the other swaps.


SO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR LIST ARE UPDATED AS SOON AS YOU CAN GET THEM DONE BEFORE MAIL OUTS STARTS!!!! IF you don't mind getting doubles of something you already received then PLEASE leave it listed as a want!


I will do my best to make sure you get as many back as you send in. ALSO if you want all flowers or all veggies or a mix then make sure I know this too so I can send you back what you are really wanting.


I would have my trade page updated by no later then Feb 10. This still gives everyone time to check your list and mail to me. I would like to be able to mail your envies back to you by the last week of Feb. IF some of you will be a little late sending to me this is ok, BUT I would really like to get them back to you by the 1 first week of March.

I want to add that anyone can add to their list as much as they like. It was suggested in the other swap group 9as suggested by agirlsgirl, Thank you dear great idea btw) to post the date you newly updated like if you added Carrots: Purple Dragon and Carrots: Thumbelina and Artichoke: Globe you would post your update like this:


01/13/09


Artichoke: Globe


Carrots: Purple Dragon


Carrots: Thumbelina


This makes it easier on those who have already checked your list to find your updated information.

Ok, about marking packs for someone else. I suggested using an index card and writing down the seeds with the persons # number and name on the top BUT this is not mandatory, you can put them in a baggie is you wish like those sandwich baggies that either fold over or zip lock. IF you use the fold over baggies make sure you secure them so that the seeds don't fall out and then you can tape a piece of paper to the baggie with the person name and #number example: #1 NCGardengirl this will let me know who it is for.


Be SURE when you send your seeds in you let me know your GW name and your number assigned to you because I will be going by the number list we have going. It just makes it easier to look at the number then try to hunt a name. Which is the reason I also am asking you to use the number# assigned to each person.


Again, if you have questions PLEASE ask them.

It was suggested to me that we should hold one of these swap more than once a year. Would there be any interest in may having another one? Possibly every four months? Schedule would have to be worked out later. If you think you might be interested in something like this please EMAIL me about it.

Ok, in this swap Everyone WILL get what is sent in for them UNLESS:

1. They remove it from their list AFTER it was mailed in.

2. Say I have Mexican Flame Vine on my list 5 ppl send me 10 seeds each of this plant... I DON'T need that many and 3 other ppl asked for it and no one sent any in for them I will allot at least 1 pack each to the others and MAYBE keep 2 for myself. IF however someone should receive 5 packs of the same thing I will dole out 2 packs to them and put the rest in a extras bowl to give to whoever MIGHT like them.

OR I will be posting games and use those extras as prizes IF ya'll would like to play games in this thread.

3. If they specifically tell me NO doubles.

REMEMBER you CAN send in extras if you wish, MEANING NOT DEESIGNATED SPECIFICALLY FOR SOMEONE. THOSE will be put in a bowl and given a random like I will come on here and say we have 3 packs of Candy Striped Zinnia the first 3 to GRAB them will get them in there envies. And so the first 3 to request them will find those extras in there envies :).

OK? Any other questions? Just ask!

OK, I had another question asked via email:

Fran, I saw the recent postings about what happens with seeds that are sent in to you.

You said that we would get the seeds that are sent in for us unless it is removed from your wish list after it has been sent in. I was wondering about all the postings where people had a surplus of seeds and asked if anybody wanted any of those. People were just replying saying "yes, I've some some of this and that". In a few cases, private emails have been passed along to see if someone might be interested in seeds that are close to something on their wish list.

Are people supposed to be adding these items to their wish list as they respond to postings or emails saying they'd like those seeds set aside for them? If so, I'd better do that myself, but I don't think people will have been doing that yet (ie my posting for various seeds...I haven't seen anyone update their wish list when they said they'd like those seeds...not sure they're aware they should be doing that).

Make sense?

Let me know your thoughts.

ANSWER TO THIS IS: When you make a post to offer seeds and someone request them YOU as the poster are now resposible for making sure those seeds are marked for that person since this is a special request OR offer then YOU must also put on that pack as per requested offer.

OR something to that effect to let me know these seeds are a special request and MUST go to the intended person.

If you made it through a private email same thing let me know some how these seeds must go to this intended person.

Anyone that has a way to make this easier please feel free to post your method what works for me may not work for someone else but yours might!

Question I have been asked twice now: Is it ok to use or send in Commercial packs? Yes, commercial packs are fine. A lot of mine are commercial packs and I have split them up to share with others, as a matter of fact I have ordered some specific seeds because they were on want list.

My garden was new in 2008 so no seeds really to gather.

I personally don't know anyone who would say NO commercial packs allowed for me, UNLESS they are totally organic and are not sure where the seeds came from. Other then that I would say commercial seeds are fine.

Ok, here it is: We were worried about getting our seeds from the other swap in time to get updated for this one. Patty has spoken! She said there was a mistake on her list were she posted the one swapper isn't sending until the 29th, she said it was a typo and SHOULD have been the 20th. SOOO, once again she is on schedule and this SHOULD give us plenty of time to get our list updated.

AGAIN you can be working on seeds for those who are NOT in Patty's swap and for anyone who isn't SURE who those folks might be, here is a list of folks who ARE in Patty's swap at the moment:

THESE ARE THE PEOPLE IN PATTY's and other swap

01. ncgardengirl-Fran

03. markcase1964-Mark

06. conniesc-Connie

08. dirtdiggin-Toni

10. grolikecrazy-Chris

14. sissifriss-Myriah

15. chellflower-Chell

17. poisondartfrog-Alana

20. angelady-Angela

23. smokymist

26. ishareflowers-Lisa

27. purpleacres-Tracy Not in Patty's BUT hosting her own

30. hmacdona-Heather

36. yotetrapper

39. sassybutterfly_2008-Wendy

40. threeshyacres-Jodi

Make a note that you don't have to check these right now, you can when we all post we have updated.

You CAN check mine I will be ok with doubles but I think mine is specific enough I will not receive doubles and if I do that is fine because most of us are limiting our packs to 5 for VERY rare or hard to get seed to 10 so I would need more seeds cuz well, sometimes I am just not to good with them, ok? I try! LOL.

We will be keeping this schedule based on our warmer climate friends who joined BECAUSE of the original dates posted AND I don't want to lose anyone because of a change made, SOOOO if you are concerned with updating your page in time after you get your swap packages back I have a quick solution: BEFORE you open you package go to your want/have page change window: As you are pulling out your new seeds to see what you have make the changes then, IF you plan on moving them to your haves (which I personally wouldn't I would open note pad or other program and transfer them there, WHY? because might not have enough to share BUT still want a record of new seeds) or you might just want note out beside some or all that you received these seeds AND if doubles of this one are wanted go ahead and note that then too.

YES I KNOW HOW EXCITED YOU WILL BE AND THIS MIGHT SEEM LIKE AND IMPOSSIBLE TASK BECAUSE OF YOUR EXCITEMENT BUT some of us are gonna be posting what we got in return so this will be taking care of two things at once because you will be updating your page AND you can be making your list all at the same time!

Thanks so much,


Your Hostess,


:) Fran

Check the link below for the other repost if you need additional information

Here is a link that might be useful: Wow Swap Part 3
Follow-Up Postings:

RE: WoW Thanks! I WANTED that Swap # 4

• Posted by: ncgardengirl 7b 8a NC (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 11:25

Everyone I truly am sorry you received the message with my address 4x, Like Bea said though, you can't say you didn't get it...lol You got it more than once.

Again, I am sorry, I hate it when things screw up and I know it can be irksome to get multiple emails of the same message, so over look me, forgive me, and please understand...sometimes there are just issues...lol.

:) Fran

Repost cuz you might want to know!

• Posted by: ncgardengirl 7b 8a NC (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 11:28

Posted by markcase1964 7 (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 7:54

YEA!!!!!!!!!!!! My desert rose pod opened last night! I have been biting my nails to see if it will open. Yea, three of you wanted that seed..... I really, really, really wanted to get that for you!!!!
Also, the last of my stevia seeds will be going out to those that had it on your list. If was not on your list as of Friday, I am sorry. I only had enough to fill the 7 that did. To germinate stevia, please follow these directions: TOP SOW! do not bury the seeds. LOTS OF LIGHT!! You need a grow light going at least 14 hours a day. From 70 to 72 degrees. Any colder and forget it. Hotter, again, no go.

I will start looking through the list for everyone else and see what I can send for all. But those two, are very had to get and I was crossing my fingers.....

Mark

RE: WoW Thanks! I WANTED that Swap # 4

• Posted by: luvgardening2 8/9 (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 12:35

Hi ALL, I started last night going through the list and writing down which seeds I can fulfill. PLEASE everyone, if you are not in another swap, PLEASE, PLEASE update your wish list. It appears that some are not updated or do you really only have such few wishes? I want to start packing and then when Patty or the other swaps are over and are updated, I will go through those list and pack up and then ship off. I am very sorry but I am not going to go through the list multiple times, I hope you guys understand it. It takes hours and LOTS of tea to go through it. :o)

I have to say I LOVE it when the lists are specific, when I see just BEANS, I am confused. Do you want Pole? Bush? Dry? Runners? Yardlongs? Yellow? Purple? Or when I see PEAS, I have to ask, do you want snap? shelling? or snowpeas? I really want you to get what you want. I would hate for you to want green pole beans and I send Dragon Tongue which is a YELLOW multipurpose Bush Beans. I hope to make many wishes come true but please help us all out. Thanks everyone!

Nancy

RE: WoW Thanks! I WANTED that Swap # 4

• Posted by: heatherbon IN 5 (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 12:47

I thought i would post while the thread is still short for some reason i can not post from my cell when it gets too long. I have been busy packing seed i am up to 75 packs and have many more to go. There are a couple peopLe that i am having a hard time with their lists they only have a few items listed beef up those lists :)
I have made special packets for this and have put each persons number and name on them then in the upper corner have put a W, T, or a E. For want, trade or extras. Since i have so many packs i will be using a flat rate box to send them in the PO has a new smaller box that is $4 something. I have noted everyone that wanted st. Johns wort and cosmos still have plenty available if there are any more takers. Let me know.
Fran you have arranged a great swap WTG!
And i must tease you a bit but did you double check the address you sent? Lol
I thought you could use a little poking today! Hahaha
Have a great day everyone.
~heather

RE: WoW Thanks! I WANTED that Swap # 4

• Posted by: ncgardengirl 7b 8a NC (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 12:48

I just realized I didn't put up the clickable list!

01. ncgardengirl-Fran*****
02. medontdo-Michele
03. markcase1964-Mark*****
04. lgslgs-Lynda
05. misskimmie-Kim
06. conniesc-Connie*****
07. heatherbon-Heather
08. dirtdiggin-Toni*****
09. gardeningbingo
10. grolikecrazy-Chris*****
11. douglasls-Lisa
12. beverlysc-Bev
13. aphroditelaughs-Ellie
14. sissifriss-Myriah*****
15. chellflower-Chell*****
16. mary_grether-Mary
17. poisondartfrog-Alana*****
18. grovespirit-Iris
19. lindaruzicka-Linda*****
20. angelady-Angela*****
21. dimples31312-Dorothy
22. strmywthr3-Barbi
23. smokymist-Cheryl*****
24. jas_il-Jasmine
25. kristlindgren-Kris
26. ishareflowers-Lisa*****
27. purpleacres-Tracy*****
28. countrygirl_sc-Gail
29. fleethart-Fleety
30. hmacdona-Heather*****
31. echinaceamaniac-Clint
32. lakedallasmary-Mary
33. diana_lynn-Diana Lynn
34. smitties
35. ashle999
36. yotetrapper*****
37. mcbdz-Pattie
38. graanieb-Bea
39. sassybutterfly_2008-Wendy*****
40. threeshyacres-Jodi*****
41. blue_ivy-Tola
42. ibartoo-Linda
43. jaleeisa-Kathy*****
44. molanic-Molanic
45. rane_grow-Iris
46.gardenmom2-Nichol
47. southerncharm1-Kathy SC1
48. kilngod-Tina*****
49. luvgardening2-Nancy*****
50. rbrady-Rhonda*****
51. dessieb-Dessie
rbrady

ISSUES needing attention

• Posted by: ncgardengirl 7b 8a NC (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 12:54

Yes, I would like to address this issue too, many of you have nothing on your list.
Are you not checking in here to read at all? WE NEED A LIST TO SEND TO YOU...PLEASE UPDATE YOU LIST WITH SOME WANTS ON THERE.

Look at the names of stuff or do a little research, if you are not sure what somethngs maybe instead of just putting beans or watermelon at least say something more like I have never grown these before so would be happy with any until I can figure out what I like most. SOMETHING to indicate to us the you really don't have a preference to BEANS or any of the other general list.
There are TOO many specific seeds out there in each family to not say anything more than just a gerenal listing. You will not get to many things if you only list stuff like:
Beans
Beets
Canatloupe
Cosmos
Instead you can say:
Beans never grown any are fine
Beets any
Canatloupe large, orange flesh type/green flesh/ OR ANY
Cosmos any
IT HELP SO MUCH WHEN YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION THEN JUST A GENERAL LIST...I understand you may be new to gardening, but please help us out a little more. THANKS

ALSO, those of you who do not have anything listed PLEASE PUT SOMETHING UP...we can not send anything for you IF you have no listings at all.

ALSO, PLEASE CONFIRM YOU ARE STILL IN THIS SWAP, I have not heard from some of you since you signed up. When no one sees you posting at all they assume you have dropped out. I have had questions asked about whether or not some are still in this swap, and I have to say I assume so I haven't heard anything either way.

OK, 09. gardeningbingo I can not contact you, you have NO way to be contacted. PLEASE PUT UP A EMAIL ADDRESS SO YOU CAN BE CONTACTED BY MEMBERS WHEN NEEDED...THANK YOU.

As far as I know this is all the issues at the moment ppl have ran into. IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO ADDRESS PLEASE SAY SO...

excuse the little are rbrady under the clickable links it was an extra I missed...lol.

:) Fran

RE: WoW Thanks! I WANTED that Swap # 4

• Posted by: southerncharm1 Orlando, FL Z9 (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 13:11

First of all Miss RTM! I wanna know how long it took for you to do that! HAHAHA I don't know how you kept your composure when those jerks drove their CAR through your garden, we would've been throwin' down fo' sho'! ROFL

Nancy, I'm not completely updated on my veggies yet. Hopefully I will get my other seeds from the Acres Swap and the Tomatoes Swap back in time to update before the sending date on this one. :D I know I have waaaaaayyy to many irons in the fire. But it makes it more exciting! :D Like a kid at Christmas time. lol

Toni/Dirtdiggin - Seems that's a common issue with some of these places. It's very disappointing when you are shelling out good money for seeds only to get a few of them in return. :(

Conniesc, that is exactly how to keep business coming back. Wish more of them were like that. :)

Yotetrapper, I have some Charleston Grey Watermelon seeds, there are 9 of them. You want em?

Kathy AKA - 6477 32629 72687 HAHAHA!

RE: WoW Thanks! I WANTED that Swap # 4

• Posted by: blue_ivy 5 IN (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 13:37

I actually think it is great when someone lists just a veggie or type of plant and does not specify a variety. To me, it means I can send that person a little of the one or two varieties I happen to have! When people are too specific, I am less likely to be able to share what I have, often not having a specificly requested variety.

In my case, I omit varieties of veggies from my trade list because I am in the experimental stage where I would be thrilled to try anything new! : ) (I have now added "any variety" where appropriate as requested.)

Echinaceamaniac - I sent you a message through GW a couple days ago. I would love to send you something but I don't have anything on your wants list. You can respond to that email if you think you might like something that is not on your list.

Gardeningbingo - I am sorry I don't have anything on your list! I do not have contact info for you, so I can't write to offer you what I do have that may interest you.

RE: WoW Thanks! I WANTED that Swap # 4

• Posted by: molanic Z5 IL (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 15:20

I'm checking in because I haven't posted since I joined,but I am still here :)

I agree with blue_ivy, if someone doesn't specify a specific variety of something I take it to mean that they are open to try any variety. That is how I did my list anyway...I was only as specific as necessary. I also was sure to include my zone on the page. For instance if I put just "swiss chard" or "carex" on my list, any species or variety of them that grows in my zone is cool with me. For tomatoes, I listed specific kinds because they are all I am interested in that I don't already have for this year.

Sometimes it is a bit disappointing to go through a super long list with every variety listed, only to find I have nothing to offer them.

-Molanic

RE: WoW Thanks! I WANTED that Swap # 4

• Posted by: ncgardengirl 7b 8a NC (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 15:24

blue_ivy, I understand about why you for instance may have just had beans, BUT those of us who have lots to offer have a hard time with less specific, HOWEVER, if you can do what I asked and just place any variety or something to let us know you would be happy with pretty much anything it helps us decide what to send...I know you understand this which is the reason you did as requested and placed any or any variety beside your items. It is muchly appreciated.
On the other hand for those of us who have less to trade not being specific DOES make it easier for them to trade or send in something because it isn't specific, but believe me, once you start getting into hundred's of seeds as many of our seeds stashes are more specific is lots more helpful...lol.

Kathy, SC1, it took me a few secs to figure it out...but it was funny huh? HAHAHA
And I was HIGHLY ticked when they drove through the garden, but we didn't actuallt SEE them we just saw a car sitting on the side where they came out at and the tire marks in the garden but we knew it was them....but what can you do?

HAHAHA, I just realized I spelled cantaloupe wrong in my example up there...LOL!!!

I am going to check list again, those I found without a list or without a good size list I will email them and ask them to update and add if possilbe to there list...so if they can and will update we will have a better chance of contributing something to them....:)

OH, we have someone else from Canada joining, I am just waiting on the email to confirm their GW id...

:) Fran

RE: WoW Thanks! I WANTED that Swap # 4

• Posted by: jaleeisa 6b Oklahoma (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 16:47

I agree... if there's something that I'm really just interested in any variety of, I'll put "any" beside it. Usually at some point, in looking through catalogs, etc, I'll see specific ones that I'd like to have and will add that under the "any" that means I'll be happy with any, but if someone happens to have the specific one, I'd be REALLY happy! LOL with some things, I'm still experimenting myself. I moved to a new part of Oklahoma last year and have a yard that's VERY different from what I had before, further south. So I'm still getting a feel for what will do well here.

For example-

I have listed on my page that I want Geraniums-
Geranium- Black Velvet Series- any, especially Salmon, Scarlet, Appleblossom

I'd be happy with any of the Black Velvet series, but I specified that series, then added that I'm especially wanting the Salmon, Scarlet and Appleblossom in that series.

In another listing- variegated and feathered type Morning Glories

I have some varieties of MG, but have become more interested in these types, and so would be open to any colors, etc, in these types.

In another area of my list, I mention wanting garlic- not picky on the name, but prefer hard neck, strong flavored types.

I hope that I'm showing some of the newer traders/swappers that you can still leave it open because you're experimenting, but clear up any confusion for those who aren't sure if just because you said you'd like begonias that you want their small Rex border begonias or would you prefer the bigger, taller ones. Or, as mentioned, when you say beans, are you talking about pole beans, which will need supports, bush beans, which will need space, or runner beans, which will also need support. On tomatoes... do you want determinate- which make a sort of bush, don't necessarily have to be staked or caged and set all their fruit at one time (usually a 2 week period) and stops growing- it's done at that point, or indeterminate- which are a more vine tomato, needs to be staked or caged to prevent it from bending and breaking and continues to grow and set fruit until killed by frost.

Even knowing this much will help someone decide what to send you. Determinate tomatoes you'll need to be prepared to harvest and either eat, can, or blanch and freeze within a short period of time. Indeterminate you can continue a slow harvest and they continue to produce until killed by frost.

I know that many are concerned with being seen as "picky", I don't see it that way. You wants list is your Wish list... dream big! LOL! But if you're fine with any kind or type, please indicate that too :)

Kathy

RE: WoW Thanks! I WANTED that Swap # 4

• Posted by: luvgardening2 8/9 (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 16:59

Kathy, Thanks for letting me know your list is NOT complete. I will write myself a note and go back to check your list out later. As of now, I can grant ALL of your wishes for BEANS. Make sure you send Fran a BIG envelope and maybe a few extra stamps. Those suckers get HEAVY and it may push your 1st class into Priority or Parcel Post zone.

I think I am going to have to ship to Fran in a BOX, it will be neater with that many packets of seeds.

Blue Ivy and Molanic, I can understand your views. I think that is fine. I am only asking that it is not SO GENERAL. BTW, I was not referring to either of your lists. I have both of you down w/ quite specific wants. I was fine with some that said ANY HEIRLOOM so and so or ANY that is not on my Have List or ANY pole beans. Be kind enough to narrow it down for us. I have a HUGE collection, which should I pick for you? I do not know. It is much easier for me and I think some others here if you give us CLUES. Honestly, I will glance through the general stuff. I will use Kathy's Want List as an example. She specifies the variety and I happen to have them, I am going to grant her wishes. I am not going to figure out Player #100's Wish List for BEANS but I will grant it if they say they have not tried it and they are open to Any Bush BEANS.

I have been told that my list is TOO specific and it is hard to grant wishes. I totally understand this, I know it is not easy and I do not expect anything. I am here to SHARE what I have. It is not possible to use all the seeds I possess. I get a sense of satisfaction from sharing. Another reason for the specifics is because I probably do not care for it or I already have it. I would hate for you to spend your money and time for something I will not use.

Alright, I am off to pack for Acres Squash and Tomato and Pepper swap.

Nancy

RE: WoW Thanks! I WANTED that Swap # 4

• Posted by: heatherbon IN 5 (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 17:01

Thank you Kathy i needed that i am very new to veggies that explained a ton to me i love gw it teaches me so much all the time.
Im off to change my veg list a little.
~heather

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• Posted by: angelady 8 - TX (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 17:22

I also want to be sure that the list of want lists is close to the top for everyone!

Here ya go:

ALL WOW Participants Want Lists

Again, please, let me know if I need to update anything for you on the page!

Blessings,
Angela

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• Posted by: gardenmom2 IN Zone 6 (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 17:37

First, someone posted st johns wort and something else, I don't remember now from reading all of the above, but if you have some to share, I would be glad to try it. I as a newby understand more now why you want such specifics as I have read through many of your want and have lists. So many of you have wht the rest of us newcomers dont that you would not want to get it over and over. Or you only "NEED" certain varieties. Others of you only like certain veggies or flowers and would not be interested in otehr things.

I at first made a general list. Then I kept going back adding to it as I looked at ohers lists. Then I started to try to be specific wth tomatoes and peppers and squash's because of the other swaps I am in. Now, unfortuneately I have a huge mess on my list. It is out of order, tomatoes here and there, flowers here and there, MESSY> I wanted to say sorry first and foremost. I am trying to get it fixed, but not really sure how. I had exported to excel and abc ordered it, but then the vege's were not togethor and the flowers, or herbs. Plus, where I listed Watermelon - and listed 5 or 6 it did not work in excl. Eventually I will get this organized. I will probably kinda start over with it in excel, but not sure when I will get it finished.

Whew !!! With all of that said, I am not new to gardening but new to large flower beds, seed saving, and collecting. I would love just about anything, b/c right now, if I get duplicates I can trade with them, but I also have 2 acres to make flower beds !! I tried to put any or "dry beans" or some such thing, but If I missed something (due to the miserable mess) please email me and ask or tell me so I can go fix it. Oh, and Cosmos, Zinnias and things are new to me so I don'treally know varieties yes, and have been so busy in my 1 week on here trading and swapping, that I have not been able to go through and look at them. I think I covered it. I am very very happy to be here and so glad to be included with such generous people. Any and all suggestions welcome.

By the way, With the possibility of this being a large swap, how do I know how much postage to send??4 or 5 or 6, ????? Just don't want anyone getting stuck with postage and a HOPING for a "whole lotta love" LOL.

Nichol

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• Posted by: gardenmom2 IN Zone 6 (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 18:07

I updated mine one last time. Now the only thing I may try is to straighten it up some, but if I do, I will let youknow. SOrry for the mess. Off to pack more seeds.

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• Posted by: heatherbon IN 5 (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 19:45

Gardenmom-
I will mark you down for st johns and cosmos. Any other takers?
I got my list changed a little and i am done messin with it. Lol

Are u guys still out there?

• Posted by: heatherbon IN 5 (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 19:50

Has anyone heard from gardenbingo or marygether?

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• Posted by: angelady 8 - TX (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 20:12

Okay, I have all the lists done (other than those in Patty's swap). I think I got all the updates to lists up 'til this point. If it has been changed again or needs updating from this post forward, please, let me know!

Blessings,
Angela

Here is a link that might be useful: Compiled Want Lists for All WOW participants

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• Posted by: flwrs4ever 7 R.I. (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 21:53

Hi everyone, I just wanted to apologize to Fran, I soo wanted to do her swap, but I am just not up to it. I hope everyone enjoys the swap, Fran is great.......and I see alot of great swappers, or seed addicts here.......LOL

Have fun !!!

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• Posted by: ncgardengirl 7b 8a NC (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 23:18

It's ok Kym, I know you didn't feel like it, you will be missed :) HUGS....

Also, another thing about list items, not to beat this horse to death but some things may not grow in say zone 10 that will grow in zone 7 so, OR visa versa, it may be because of a zone thing that someone will be specific. We all have our reasons one or the other for being specific.
For me mostly it is because I saw it in a seed cat and I liked it and wanted it, heck it may NOT grow for me, BUT I don't know this until I try it, then I will know but for now I want to try it. Also, I may not know there is another variety out there, like I said I probably saw it in a book and I want it! It is just that simple.
More common things I have access to, newer varieties I may not. OR I just can't afford to purchase all I want so swapping and 'gifting' swaps are the way to go and I ask for a specific HOPING someone will be generous enough to send some my way, because I know someone out there DID order it I can almost bet on it and might just be wiling to share a few seeds, hopefully with little ole me! (Shucks, I blush at the thought) On the other hand I am not saying I haven't ordered a few things because I have and some where specific wants of others, and I happened to want it to which is what I am hoping for in the case of my specific want list!
So please understand it is just simpler if you can be a little more specific I may have some Black eye peas and when you say peas I might want to send them to you, BUT you are in Zone 4 and these will not do well for you. I don¡¦t know you are in zone 4 I can¡¦t take time to look BUT if you have listed say Little Marvel Green Peas THEN I KNOW more of what you can use¡K.
SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND there is a reason for all of this¡K
As far as luvgardening2 list being TO SPECIFIC, she has been at this trading thing awhile and she only NEEDS these varieties now. It is NOT that she wants to make it hard on anyone, she just no longer needs certain things because she already has a LONG list and now she want specialty items, and I can bet there is SOMEONE out there who can also help her out to.

SO PLEASE DO NOT FEEL BAD IF YOU DO NOT HAVE SOMETHING FOR SOMEONE THAT HAS A SPECIFIC OR EXCULSIVE LIST, THERE WILL BE SOMEONE WHO MAY BE ABLE TO FULFIL IT FOR SOMEONE. SO DON¡¦T GO EMAILING THAT PERSON AND SAY HEY, I CAN¡¦T HELP YOU OUT, JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PERSON. Ok?

OK and to end let me say I am just trying to be helpful not hurtful. Just trying to clear up some things and making sure feelings are not being hurt¡K

OK Remember this is posed to be FUN!!!

º Fran

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• Posted by: yotetrapper (riverat@hcil.net) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 23:46

Now I'm even getting confused. LOL. I guess if my list isnt specific enough for someone just dont send me anything? I have a lot of specific things on there, but some are very general, because any of that item would be fine.... I do not have time to go through and change everything, so if not specific enough, just skip it.

Southern Charm, sure, I'll take 'em.

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• Posted by: southerncharm1 Orlando, FL Z9 (My Page) on Sun, Feb 1, 09 at 23:51

heatherbon, I am interested in the St John Wort please. :D

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• Posted by: ncgardengirl 7b 8a NC (My Page) on Mon, Feb 2, 09 at 0:00

Yotetrapper, no everyone is missing the point...you can have general things on there we ALL DO, for the most part but instead of just saying:
Beans
Please add something more like:
Bush Beans ANY
OR
Pole BEANS ANY

OR leave it as you have it, I am sure you will still get your general stuff and if you are happy receiving just whatever of that certain thing then that is fine but you never know what kind of beans you will get if it is just stated as beans...
ok?

:) Fran

Please READ

• Posted by: ncgardengirl 7b 8a NC (My Page) on Mon, Feb 2, 09 at 0:21

OK...this is it folks...

People are trying to make this too complicated...so I am gonna put it in the most simplest of terms:

Check peoples want list, Update yours with a WANT list if you haven't, Pack Bubble mailer with seeds from said want list of others, take it to the post office, weigh it, apply some amount of postage it is costing you to mail it to me or a little more in postage, include a return address label, a master list of what you sent in IF possible, SEAL IT and SEND IT! Make sure it is mailed out to be by Feb 20th, no later.

That is it...this is a simple, EASY FUN SWAP, not meant to be complicated or complex just fun and simple...

AGAIN THANKS TO ALL FOR JOINING, it is APPRECIATED, PLEASE enjoy looking at others want list and filling their wishes to help make their gardens beautiful this year!!!

:) Fran

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• Posted by: medontdo 5b Ks (My Page) on Mon, Feb 2, 09 at 1:05

i guess some are just trying to make sure that they send the right stuff and it doesnt get traded off, ummmm.....that they didn't "waste" a gift?? is that what i'm trying to say, we all know i'm very bad at words, but i think thats what it is, LOL i think, for me, i'd want to know if it matters if i send joe (made up name) bush beans, is he gonna care, or will he care, so if he don't care, maybe he could just put any. LOL

now that we are all happy and smiling and saying what a goofball, lets talkabout the great weather, nd how i hope that we are getting no more winter!! LOL i like this swap!! its crazy and so many people are trying to accomodate everyone else that it does just a little confusing, but that's to be expected. :') just don't sweat the small stuff people!! LOL remember, send these off as a nice thing and if your not willing to "lose" alot, then don't send alot, but that's my opinion. its not a trade. its a i wanted that seed. and geeze you won't need that many anyhow to make a whole lot anyhow!! in the last swap, many people only sent 7 seeds at the most. not like you neede more than that. again, my opinion. LOL
i totally agree, this is supposed to be totally fun!! i am looking forward to filling my envi!!
do we have a way of seeing who we can help out so we don't send to many pks to other people? then maybe we can help other people? its just a thought, also if you have any desert rose seeds left, could i have a few? Hugs ~medo

Here is a link that might be useful: barehanded totally nutso gardener

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• Posted by: lindaruzicka Z6 PA (My Page) on Mon, Feb 2, 09 at 11:46

my thoughts on swaps are this: I usually get seeds that I would've never thought of trying and am thrilled to do so. If I get some that I already have, no big deal..I either use them or swap them. I always tell people that they are free to swap what I send if they can't use them....after all, that's what's fun about a swap, you never know what's in the envelope..sorta like Christmas.."G"

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• Posted by: countrygirl_sc 7 SC (My Page) on Mon, Feb 2, 09 at 12:36

The only problem I had with the list were when someone said Tomatoes (for example), then listed several or many varieties under. When I pasted the list in my spreadsheet, then I had to put tomato in front of each variety so I could sort my master list and have all the Tomato Sungolds together.

For me it was a lot easier when listed as:
Tomato Sungold
Tomato Brandywine
Etc.

Next time I'll add an extra column for the tomatoes, if you follow my drift. LOL!

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• Posted by: graanieb 9, Louisiana (My Page) on Mon, Feb 2, 09 at 12:44

Linda, I meant to post just about the same thing, it's been that way with me, we get and send out different seeds with the understanding they'll be welcomed or shared with someone who would need them, at least scatter some in the wild, what I've been doing sometimes, had some pretty and tough flowers out there. I think most of us feel this way and are easy to please, as long as seeds are viable. I loved the surprise packets with ? or unknown, fun to see what'll come up.
Right now My Have List is really small, because I'm packing rest of the seeds for about 15 of you ( again, in sandwich baggies, not counting 'em) and sending the rest to Fran to do with as she wishes, check out who's been needy (or nutty or nice,lol) I'm sending them with love, awww ...lol
I'd be happy with may be a dozen pkts, forgot to list in
my Wants- STEVIA, ZINNIA "Candy Cane" and SALVIA-White and SAGE-Herb...not sure if it's listed.
Haven't kept seeds older than about a year, for years.
As long as I've been on swapping seeds, haven't yet found and doubt I ever will, over half of my wants, rather common too, understand it's good fun and am fine with what I have, saves me money and most of all, keeps me in touch with the nicest people who've I never met in person, truth be said.
Getting back to recipes, thought if anyone wants to exchange or receive recipes thru email, let me know, will get your email addy's in my contracts.
Btw...noticed new thread now goes faster with the down arrow ( for me 2nd key on the righ of Ctrl), no longer with the End button.
Got to read more posts and get back here soon,
Hugs Fran, Angela and all,

GB Bea

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• Posted by: purpleacres Upper Northern Calif (My Page) on Mon, Feb 2, 09 at 13:43

howdee there

Fran -- Yep Im still in and I just know I went through more seeds and found seeds I had no idea I even had. So I will be sending in a pile. I am sure I will alo have a pile extras from my Acres edible swap so I will send in a pile of them too.

As for my wish list-- as long as its some thing that is close to what is on my wish list IM GOOD. I am a pretty easy gardener to please.

Also --- ACRES EDIBLE SWAP will ship out middle of this week. My mind is a blurrrr of itty bitty seed packs..

Acres

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• Posted by: yotetrapper (riverat@hcil.net) on Mon, Feb 2, 09 at 16:53

OK.....UPDATE.

I've decided I am not going to wait for Patty's swap. I have a LOT of things listed now that I either did not ask for in Patty's swap, or dont mind doubles of. So for those of you waiting to check my list, go on ahead.

Just as you go through my list.... stop when you get to the part that says patty's swap. OR if you do read the part that is patty's swap... and have something rare that is listed there, then just send it.

Like others said, I dont mind doubles or even unwanteds... they're trading material.

I added a bunch more stuff today, so have a pretty long list marked specifically for Fran's swap...have at it.

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• Posted by: lakedallasmary 8 - North Central TX (My Page) on Mon, Feb 2, 09 at 20:31

I think saying broccoli is fine
and in my opinion is the same as 'any' broccoli.

Beans - well there a lot of kinds of beans
if you are open to all kinds that might be ok,
but many do not grow in certain climates.

to be more specific without listing a variety

list

pole beans
bush beans

most of the below can come in either (bush or pole)

lima beans
blackeyed peas
yard long beans
adzuki beans
tepary beans
runner beans

because

pole beans are for warm climates
bush beans - cooler ones

green beans - cool to warmish but not hot
lima beans - warm
butterpeas - grow better in warmer places than the large limas
yard long beans (really a kind of blacked peas) - warm
black eyed peas (really beans) - warmer
tepary beans - warm and dry
runner beans - cooler climates
wax beans - can take cooler weather that green beans

For peas their are 4 types (all like cool climates)

english peas (wrinkled fresh stage peas) Coolest
soup peas (dry peas- smooth seeds) - cool
snap peas (eat All) - cool
snow peas (flat pods) - coll

If you don't mind any of these, leave it as peas

Squash - winter
squash - summer These are usually bush and not happy in warmer climates

maximas are happier in cooler climates since they are mountain squash.

pepo winter squash do better for me here in Texas. They can take warmer/drier weather

moscahata and mixtas prefer warmer climates and can take a bit of drought. can't take cool weather

Big difference in the squashes - but if you don't care leave it as any squash

I don't see the big deal. If you are specific you are more likely to get something you can use, but if you don't care, and/or are new to gardening, folks can toss any beans left over after meeting specific requirements --- no big deal

short radishes are generally for spring. I can't grow them,
our springs are almost non existent

long radishes are generally for fall/winter
they do great here.

Those with short seasons or live in the south are more likely to have more specific lists. Lots of stuff won't do well in difficult climates.

If you don't have something from a specific list than you don't. No worries.

If you don't have something from a list that has not even one thing on it, well neither do any off us.

I pretty much ran out of seeds to share despite late comers, and folks that are waiting to update their lists until other swaps are completed. So my seeds are wandering through the postal system now.

I tossed in some extras so that Fran can spread among late comers and those I had nothing for specifically. Some of my extras will fit the 'any' tomato category. So see, listing tomatoes (with no variety specified) is not a bad thing.

In a few days, Fran is going to be quite busy with seed packets spread all over her bed! And next to the seeds are going to be little clumps of her hair!

Mary

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• Posted by: jaleeisa 6b Oklahoma (My Page) on Mon, Feb 2, 09 at 20:56

I'll say that I don't mind doubles either. I made several more updates to my wants after Patty's swap closed, and those that were up at that time, I'd not mind receiving multiples for. So no need to wait for Patty's swap to come back for me to update. I'll leave a note here if I make any more additions before mailing time :) Which is entirely possible since every catalog or email ad I get from the seed companies gives me more and more wants.

By the way, I have about 5 trades of 5 seeds each for Vitex (Chaste Tree) if anyone is interested, I'll tuck them into your baggie. I may have more, but we'll start with the five. I have a plastic seed baggie about full, but I've not counted or broken them down yet, so I'll start with the first five, but if you're interested, don't hesitate to say so even if the first five have spoken up. These are wonderful for butterflies, hummingbirds and bees. We'll work with the 5 seeds/per for the moment. These can get pretty large, so I'm thinking 5 would be enough for someone to know if they will do well for them or not. If someone knows of germination difficulties with them, please let me know and I'll up the amount of seed per trade. But my understanding is that they aren't difficult.

Post here and email me please, makes it easier for me to keep track.

Kathy

POSTING for Heather

• Posted by: ncgardengirl 7b 8a NC (My Page) on Mon, Feb 2, 09 at 21:33

POSTING FOR: 30. hmacdona-Heather*****

"Hi everyone,
Even though I am participating n Patty's swap, it will be several weeks before I receive any seeds back since I am in Canada. I don't want that to hold up this swap waiting for those seeds to a