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| Hey everybody! I would like to host a new robin.
Rules:
2).You must include seeds for authentic Victorian flowers, which in those days all had a language of their own, plus one or more handmade Victorian crafts. 3). Follow the links to these websites for lists of Victorian flowers and their unique language. I'm sure there are many more sites, but these two were comprehensive enough for my purpose.
Victorian Language of Flowers 4). I will start the Robin with 75 packs of seeds and some Victorian crafts. 5).You can remove as many packets of seeds as you like as long as you replace them with the same number of packs or more. You can also remove as many crafted items as you like as long as you replace them with the same amount or more. 6). Your trade packs don't need to be stuffed. They can be commercial, collected, or extra from trades. Most of mine will have the standard 25 seeds....more for smaller seeds, a few less for larger seeds. 7). Your Victorian crafts must be handmade, but they need not be large (they need to fit in the box). Think ornate, elegant, opulent, overtly feminine and/or masculine! You need not spend a lot of money on these crafts, just be creative with your materials. 8). When you post here please post your three favorite colors, your favorite metallic accent color (silver, gold, or copper), your favorite flower, favorite animal, favorite season (spring, summer, fall, or winter), and anything else you think might be relevant for crafting inspiration. 9). Please send me your address through private email! I can't wait to hear from you! 10). I am looking for a maximum of 20 players. Signups will run either until we reach 20 players or until Christmas Eve, December 24th (which ever comes first). The Robin will fly on January 2. Thanks for playing!
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Follow-Up Postings:
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- Posted by debbya z4IL (da1763@aol.com) on Fri, Nov 17, 06 at 20:53
| Netta, Count me in! My three favorite colors are~ Purple (all shades), Seafoam, Cream. Deb |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Sat, Nov 18, 06 at 0:18
| Debbya thanks so much for joining! I still have your addy. My three favorite colors are burgundy, dusty pink, & cream. There is lots and lots of time to signup and this should be a fun one!!! |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Sat, Nov 18, 06 at 0:26
| Hey Deb...your three favorite colors happen to be almost the same color scheme as my bedroom...that one color which you can never quite decide if it's blue or purple (LOL), seafoam, and cream...crazy coincidence, but I find the combo very soothing...like your sense of color darlin! |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Sat, Nov 18, 06 at 20:56
| Bump! |
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| I'll sign up for this one, although the crafting thing may be a bit of a challenge for me, LOL (I'll think of something - there are some lovely local crafts stores if my own skills fall short - handmade is okay, but it might be someone else who does the making, if that's ok!). My 3 favorite colors - that's tough, I like them all, depending on the circumstance - I'll say royal blue, grey (light to medium), sage green. |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Sun, Nov 19, 06 at 11:48
| Hey Kim...thanks for joining....if you end up having to buy something, it's ok. Everybody please remember that I am here and willing to let you bounce ideas off of me if you are having difficulty with the crafting part.....I would be more than willing to help anybody get started with some ideas....please don't be shy about emailing me (you guys are the only communication I get with real adults throughout the day as my two little ones are still too young for school, and there aren't any moms with kids around here - you guys keep me sane LOL)...I love to hear from all of you!!! And I would hate for somebody not to join because they think they can't craft...so go ahead and sign up! Netta |
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| Hey Netta, I seem to be in a Victorian craft groove (can't imagine why!), and I've got seeds to spare, so I'll play with this Robin too. Count me in! My 3 favorite colors: sheesh, the hardest one is first - I like almost all blues, browns/beiges/earth tones, and muted greens. Metallic accent: gold or copper Flower: ONLY ONE???!!! No way! Daylilies, lilacs, peonies, irises, and antique roses top the list. Animal: Cats. Bird: Cardinals, gold finches. Favorite season: Fall - I love the low golden sun, the russet/amber/burgundy/scarlet warm colors of leaves, the dusty buff beige of dried grasses, and that shocking clear blue sky. . . . Thanks for letting me play! Laurel
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Sun, Nov 19, 06 at 16:43
| Laurel...thanks for joining...don't forget to email me your address! Anybody else wanna play with us? I just took a trip to JoAnn's & Michaels and already have some projects in the works. Bought some supplies...racked up some ideas...got things to finish up projects for my Victorian Swap....pluggin away... Netta |
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- Posted by debbya z4IL (da1763@aol.com) on Mon, Nov 20, 06 at 0:25
| I'm going to JoAnn's & Michaels, Hobby Lobby tomorrow. I'm sure I'll be overloaded with craft ideas and supplies!
Deb |
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| Oh Netta, What are you doing to me??? I can't resist anything victorian. I want to play too!!! thanks, Jo/juspeachy (this makes 3, grin) |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Mon, Nov 20, 06 at 10:05
| Thanks for joining Jo! Don't forget to post your favorites list. There are still 16 spots open for new sign ups! Netta |
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- Posted by sandlapper_rose z7B-8A SC (My Page) on Mon, Nov 20, 06 at 13:25
| I would like to join in also! Favorite colors: Browns, sage green, then the third is a toss up depending on where the item will be used. I like peach, burgundy, red, gold, and white or cream colors as well. Really like all colors. Look forward to participating!
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Mon, Nov 20, 06 at 13:39
| Hi Sandlapper_rose! Welcome aboard! So everybody keep in mind that my reason for having you post your favorites is simply to give everybody else a starting point for ideas...in short a source of inspiration....you won't be crafting anything specifically for any one person. Thanks....and still 15 spots left open! |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Tue, Nov 21, 06 at 20:49
| Our player list so far: NETTASAURA Still lots of time for signups! |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Fri, Nov 24, 06 at 12:17
| Bump! |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Mon, Nov 27, 06 at 11:04
| Would anyone else like to play with us? |
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- Posted by fabraholic216 9b (My Page) on Fri, Dec 1, 06 at 11:23
| I'd love to sign up - this sounds like fun! I love crafting and victorian things too! Hugs, Stephanie |
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- Posted by fabraholic216 9b (My Page) on Fri, Dec 1, 06 at 11:42
| Oops! I forgot to post my information! My favorite colors are: seafoam green, pink, and yellow My favorite metallic accent color is silver My favorite flowers are zinnias My favorite animal is a cat My favorite seasons are spring and fall Thanks for letting me be in your swap! |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Fri, Dec 1, 06 at 11:51
| Thanks for joining Stephanie....don't forget to send me your addy! Netta |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Fri, Dec 1, 06 at 19:49
| For ideas, try free catalogs like those available from Victorian Trading Company. I didn't know they had five different ones and just ordered the home and apparel ones in addition to the regular company catalog I already receive. As I find more sources of inspiration, I will post them to help anybody who may be struggling. And if you find anything good...feel free to post here also. For crochet, check out Celt's Vintage Crochet and Antique Crochet. Also check out Craft Town's Victorian Crafting Links. Have fun ladies! |
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| Netta, count me in for this one - sounds fun! I think you have my addy already. How old are your little ones? I'm a SAHM with a 5 year old in pm kindergarten and a 16 month old. - Jenifer Three favorite colors - blue, olive green, burgundy |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Mon, Dec 4, 06 at 1:57
| Hey Jennifer....2 1/2 and 4 year old boys...rambunctious as all get out....it's a miracle that my house is still standing!!! LOL Anyway welcome and have fun! I still have your addy. FABRAHOLIC216 - I still need your address. Haven't heard from you through email either. IMPORTANT: Since this isn't a secret swap of any sort....feel free to post your ideas and projects that you are working on here...if you are having difficulty at all, I am sure that between all of us we can help feed each other with ideas....if we end up with 20 players, I do believe I will have more than enough product to split the Robin into two separate boxes. We'll just have to wait and see on that one though....depends on how many people sign up. Right now I am working on a handpainted wood tray, some small crocheted doilies, and some bracelets and earrings... We would all love to hear what you are working on too! Netta |
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| HI, I forgot to post my list, soooo, here goes... My three favorite colors are pink/rose...royal blue...turquoise/aqua Have TONS of seeds to share. Haven't started anything yet, but I have lots of ideas. Will get moving on them next week.And post them and progress reports. Debbya, Jo/juspeachy |
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| Hello all, I'm a SAHM too, home schooling. Our son is 8, our daughter is 4 1/2. Busy, busy! I'm going to make a couple miniature Victorian teddy bears for the box (maybe 3 if I'm on a roll). I haven't decided on another craft to include - we'll see what strikes my fancy. Seeds are the easy part. Laurel |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Mon, Dec 4, 06 at 20:03
| I also have plans for some wall plaquettes, soft and silky crochet slippers, tassle pairs, and some embellished tip towels. Lots more ideas to come! |
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| I'm going to try my hand at some homemade stationary with some integrated dried flowers from my garden this summer - might also toss in a few suncatchers... |
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| Morning everyone, Netta, Jo/juspeachy |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Tue, Dec 5, 06 at 10:14
| You know I am totally bummed....I can't find those mags either now....I got the summer one at Top Foods and they have carried them for the last few years....but now I can't find the Christmas edition anywhere. I wanna cry....they are the best mags on the planet...and no joke there either. WAAAAAAA! |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Wed, Dec 6, 06 at 16:52
| Hey Jo...saw those books last night on my little trip to JoAnn's....waiting till this weekend when I can use my 50% off coupons! So ladies....I have one doily and two bracelets completed! Netta |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Thu, Dec 7, 06 at 17:43
| Add four pairs of earrings to the tally! |
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| I picked up some more ornaments to paint, nice detailed wreath-shaped ones. (I'm a glutton for punishment, LOL, but I really find it relaxing.) So I'll have a couple teddy bears and a handful of ornaments for the box, at the very least. I've been inspired to check out a book on Victorian gardens from the library - a very nice read with lots of photos. It's been very interesting. Then my son and I went on a field trip to a Victorian mansion museum locally yesterday, and I got a fresh dose of inspiration from that. Laurel |
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- Posted by debbya z4IL (da1763@aol.com) on Sun, Dec 10, 06 at 12:09
| I'm so excited about this swap! I'm working on so many projects at once! My craft table is overloaded with ribbons, birds, beads, paint, soap items, all ready when needed! I purchased an unfinished wooden birdhouse, painted it, and already started to embellish it. I'm also curing some hand poured Angel soaps (vanilla/lavender) in many colors- lavender, seafoam, peach, blue. I'm also working on glass heart ornaments with clay flowers, lots of ribbons.. tons of ideas! I love teddy bears (especially handmade) so I'm working on two Victorian teddies for this box. I purchased a doily, dyed it in 'tea' for an antique look, purchased silk roses and will hand sew a collar with silk roses around each bears neck. I also purchased some really bold colored glass ornaments (the deep reds, blues) to add clay flowers/ribbons to. I'm also working on a couple of mini wreaths (birds/nests, ribbons). I have several more ideas, and will post more when I have a chance. Deb |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Sun, Dec 10, 06 at 13:51
| I picked up some floral fabrics and plan on making aome gardening aprons and also some socks that I will embellish with crocheted lace. The crochet slippers aren't going to pan out the way I had hoped, so I am scratching those in favor of the ultra feminine socks! I also purchased the fringe for the tassels and can't wait to get started on them. Netta |
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| Netta, Got my snail mail yesterday. THANK YOU!! Love the extras. You are awesome! I do sculpture, so I will be making fancy little picks to go in plant pots, and some pot perchers as well. I am still mulling over a couple of other ideas as well. I will have to figure out how to do what I want first though. have a great evening, |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Sun, Dec 10, 06 at 15:45
| Hey Jo...picked up the Birds & Butterflies book of those vintage scrap art ones you were talking about...good grief there are only like 10 in the series and I want them all...LOL...but will have to constrain myself to Fairies & Angels, and the Frames & Borders books. Netta PS...need to stop running to JoAnn's every five minutes...think DH is about to have a hissy fit!!! ROFL!! |
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| THEY HAVE FAIRIES & ANGELS AND BIRDS & BUTTERFLIES??????? EGADS!!! I NEED TO GO BACK AND SEE IF WE HAVE THOSE!! I didn't see them when I got the others. DANG!! I will have to keep an eye out for them. Jo |
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| My daughter is having a prolonged high-volume 4-year-old hissy snit right now - I think after she's in bed tonight (EARLY!!) I'll put in a looooong DVD and sit up and paint ornaments for a while. (At the rate she's having snits and early bedtimes right now, there might be A LOT of ornaments in the box after it leaves my door, LOL!) Laurel |
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| I sat up and cut out teddy bears instead - less fine detail and concentration needed, LOL. Very peaceful. I started sewing them last night. Laurel |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Tue, Dec 12, 06 at 11:40
| Got the tray basecoated....will be working on the tassels today and maybe starting another doily this afternoon! Also picked up some things last weekend to make some miniature victorian shadow boxes...can't wait to get started on these! After I get done with all of these things, I will have to see how much room is left in the box before I make any decisions on other crafts! Netta |
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- Posted by debbya z4IL (da1763@aol.com) on Tue, Dec 12, 06 at 14:50
| Netta, The miniature Victorian shadow box sounds really neat! I would love to hear more about that project. I'm working on a heart shaped Victorian wreath today. It's made of a material similar to wicker. The temperatures are mild, near 50* today, so was able to spraypaint outside. The wreath is cream, and I'm not sure on the flower choices yet. But, am leaning toward a Christmas wreath, with poinsettias. Deb |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Tue, Dec 12, 06 at 17:44
| You know those clear plastic ornaments that you can get at the craft store...the kind that have two halves that snap together....well I bought the biggest size (100 mm I think)and I am going to use each half separately either inside of a frame or on a wood plaque (personally I think the frame would look better). Inside of each half bubble I am going to create a miniature vignette or landscape of sorts, epoxy the plastic bubble over the vignette, and embellish around the base of the plastic with braid and other trims! Viola! Art that should last a lifetime. Can already see them in my head and am going to have to make some for myself! Netta |
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- Posted by debbya z4IL (da1763@aol.com) on Sat, Dec 16, 06 at 0:30
| Hi, Netta won't be online for a few days, possibly 4-5. Netta's area was hit by severe wind storms that knocked out the electricity. Deb |
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| Thanks for the heads-up, Deb. I hope Netta and her family are okay. Laurel |
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| Hi Deb, I wondered about that when I saw the reports. I have a wonderful friend that also lives out there. I have not heard from her. She is quite elderly. I do hope she is ok too.I also hope they do not have too much damage. thanks for letting us know. Jo |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Sat, Dec 16, 06 at 16:03
| Hey ladies....I'm back and fine! Got the power back on a little over an hour ago and just had to take a shower since I haven't had one in three days....feeling human now! Glad to see that things are going well here! Netta |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Sun, Dec 17, 06 at 11:20
| Hey Jo....here is the official list from the Publisher of the Memories of a Lifetime Series Books. Book List I bought the Fairies and Angels one yesterday! I haven't seen the Christmas one at our store, but I will keep my eyes open. Before and during the power outage I managed to finish my painted wood tray and three pairs of socks. I bought some more supplies to make the mini shadow boxes, the tassels are in mid construction, and I have supplies to make refrigerator marble magnets. |
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| Deb, those decorated glass ornaments sound lovely, especially in the jewel tones. Where did you find the glass "blanks" to decorate? I've cut out a handful of bears; we'll see how many will fit into the traveling box. Fortunately, they're light weight and squishable, and about the size of the average beanie baby. I'm making one for my 4 year old daughter right now - she saw me cutting them out, and she asked for one for Christmas. She picked out a most un-Victorian fabric, a melange of pink and purple toned swirls. This will be one wild-looking little bear! Netta, should we pack our crafts in individual ziploc-type bags or some other clear wrapping? This is my first round-robin. I want to make sure my crafts travel safely on their way, and I don't know if there's a "protocol" I'm missing here. Laurel |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Mon, Dec 18, 06 at 15:10
| Laurel - good question! You can place your items in individual plastic baggies if you choose, most especially if there are things that are sets like my tassel pairs, socks, and magnet sets. I am placing everything that will fit in a baggie in one, with the exception of the jewelry which I actually purchased those little white jewelry boxes for and the painted tray which is too large for a bag. Everything else is being placed in a baggie simply to protect the finish or in case of the doilies to potect the stitching from getting caught on anything. Anybody that might be making breakable items might want to consider wrapping them in bubble wrap (just make sure they are easy to get into as people will have to unwrap to get a look at them)....and if by the time the box gets to you and is beat up and has lost some of it's stability you might want to consider getting a brand new box from the PO since the Priority boxes are free! Heavy items should be carefully packed so they won't damage or break other items...even go so far as to tape these items to the inside of the box to keep them from moving around. Hope that answers your question! Netta |
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| Netta, thanks for the website, I have it bookmarked. I see several I "NEED"!!!. (grinZ) I have the tassels and hearts on my white tree, they are just gorgeous there. I took a pic, but you can barely see the pink lights, so it loses a lot of its ambiance. Well, off to work, |
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| Thanks, Netta - that was exactly what I needed to know. I don't have anything heavy, but I'll put the ornaments in bubble wrap just to be safe. The bears just fit in a 1 qt. ziploc, so that works out fine. Laurel |
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- Posted by debbya z4IL (da1763@aol.com) on Tue, Dec 19, 06 at 13:55
| Laurel, I found the miniature ornaments at Michaels. I didn't handpaint the ornaments, I only embellished the gold rims with a clay flower, tacked it on with hot glue. I have them sitting in the original plastic tray they came in. Netta, Here's a pic.. |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Tue, Dec 19, 06 at 17:15
| Deb...I used Liquid Gold Leaf and a paintbrush with the skinniest wood or plastic handle you can find....the very end of the handle needs to be smooth and round....dip in the liquid gold leaf, touch and drag and it gives you different shaped tear drops and lines depending on how you move the handle. Just use this stuff with a fan going or you will get a massive size headache....and make sure it is completely dry before varnishing or it will run! Hope this helps! Netta |
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- Posted by debbya z4IL (da1763@aol.com) on Tue, Dec 19, 06 at 21:31
| Netta, Thanks for the tips. I don't tolerate smell well, I usually get a headache (and gaggy) from any smell that's overpowering- cleaners, gas, turpentine (brush cleaners), etc. Hmm? Have you ever used the gold pen? Or that wouldn't give the same bold effect? Deb |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Tue, Dec 19, 06 at 22:48
| Deb...I have no idea if the pen would work or not (don't have one). And if I remember right, I think the pen smells worse than the Liquid Gold Leaf. If you can find a fine tipped one and can work fast, you would probably get fabulous results! Or you could try using regular gold leaf....do the touch and drag with the gold leaf size (adhesive) and then carefully apply the gold leaf with a very soft brush so you don't scratch the glass. But I would practice that one on something else before risking one of your ornaments. Or even better...using gold leaf sizing (adhesive) do the touch and drag, then sprinkle fine gold glitter over the ornament....personally I think this one would look really nice. The gold leaf size is a standard I use when applying glitters to my faberge eggs. Netta |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Thu, Dec 21, 06 at 1:25
| I just posted on the fiber arts exchange to see if anyone has any of the Annie's Attic Calendar Bed Doll patterns and would be willing to share. 1993 was the Victorian Series and they are all gorgeous. And I found a website that shows pics of the series from 1991-1999. Annie's Attic Bed Doll Society I have no idea what 2000-today looks like, but they are all probably drop dead gorgeous. Cross your fingers for me and hope that someone has at least one pattern I can play with! And MERRY CHRISTMAS everybody! Netta |
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| Merry Christmas, everyone! My brain is toast, and I just posted this on Netta's other Victorian craft exchange. Oops! Here's a cute Christmas musical cartoon, shared by Donn on the WS forum last week. Turn up the volume and click play. My kids think I'm weird to enjoy this simple little cartoon so much, but I don't mind. I've finished several painted ornaments and one teddy bear for the box, so far. I'd like to finish another bear or two, and perhaps another ornament or two. I can hardly wait to see what flies my way when the robin takes off. . . . Merry Christmas! Laurel
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Here is a link that might be useful: neat little Christmas music cartoon
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- Posted by debbya z4IL (da1763@aol.com) on Sat, Dec 23, 06 at 23:30
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Sun, Dec 24, 06 at 14:29
| Signups for this Robin are officially closed! So here is our small and congenial player list: NETTASAURA Now while signups are closed, I am going to extend the initial send out date for the robin until January 8th. I am doing this because with Christmas I have lost focus on the crafts for this Robin....and I am pretty sure that at least a few others of our group might appreciate the extra week since a few were concerned about not having enough time to complete things. So please enjoy your Christmas and I will check back in a few days! Netta |
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| Merry Christmas! Yes, the extra week for crafting will be nice. I hope you all have a great holiday. (My kids were up WAAAAAY early today, so we're already done with the gift opening and clean up, and the first round of cookies for breakfast. We've had a very Norman Rockwell kind of holiday, except for the total lack of snow, which may yet arrive tonight.) Laurel |
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| Yes, I like the extra week idea, too! Hope you all are having a great holiday season - two more parties to go for me, then it's gardening season full swing. |
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| Extra week is great - been working on my newest indoor hobby - the BEAD bug has bittin HARD, LOL! Can't wait for this unique RR! - Jen |
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- Posted by debbya z4IL (da1763@aol.com) on Thu, Dec 28, 06 at 13:43
| I can't wait for this to start! I have all of my crafts ready! So, I'm excited! Laurel's bears, Jen's beads, Netta's fabulous crafts, how big is this box going to be?! ;) I should mention what I have ready.. 2 bears with ribbons, clay flowers around the neck, handpoured "Angel" soaps, heart shaped wicker wreath, several glass ornaments with clay flowers, several clear heart ornaments embellished with birds, flowers, grapevine wreath ornament embellished gold/ribbons/flowers, heavy small (tealight)glass candle holder embellished with clay flowers, cute wooden white birdhouse with 2 birds (in a nest) perching on top embellished with ivy, mosses.
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- Posted by fabraholic216 9b (My Page) on Fri, Dec 29, 06 at 14:17
| I like the extra week as well. I'm working on hand embroidered sachets with antique lace. Hope everyone likes them. I may make something else as well. Thanks for hosting this swap! I'm sooo excited too! Hugs, Stephanie |
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- Posted by debbya z4IL (da1763@aol.com) on Sun, Dec 31, 06 at 21:06
| Wishing everyone a safe, healthy HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Wed, Jan 3, 07 at 1:29
| So....I had all these great ideas, only to find out that I am only going to be able to fit so much in the box....with some creative packing I am hoping to get quite a bit of it in there, but we'll see....still making stuff. Here's what I have done so far: And part way through construction are: And still have all the supplies for some other things that I was hoping to make, but I will have too see how much room I have left in the box! I would upgrade the box to a bigger size, but the postage would be exhorbitant due to how much it weighs already! Netta |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Thu, Jan 4, 07 at 17:23
| Finished the wall plaquettes...totally cute...gonna have to make some for me! Working on the tassels.... |
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| Looks like I'll have three bears and a handful of ornaments for the box. Good thing the bears are squishable, light and small! Now my 8 year old SON wants a bear of his own, after watching me make them for his sister, his cousin, and for the gift swaps. I told him he'd have to wait until I finished the last one for the RR, then I'd make him one out of fabric left over from his quilt. Laurel |
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- Posted by nettasaura Z8 WA (My Page) on Sun, Jan 7, 07 at 22:09
| Juspeachy has asked to drop out of our Robin due to personal reasons, but has assured me that she will be back later this year for more fun! So our player list now: Everything is almost ready to go...look for the update thread tomorrow! |
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- Posted by debbya z4IL (da1763@aol.com) on Sun, Jan 7, 07 at 23:02
| Netta, I'll be watching for the updated thread! Can't wait to see where the box will be headed! :) |
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