In addition to the Stampede Salvia greggii series from Bodger seed, there is another: Skylights, a Salvia greggii series from Syngenta(?). The latter was trialled at the University of Georgia last year.

I do not know if either series is under Patent Protection. Some of the Navajo series from Ball Seed is.

Here is a link that might be useful: Navajo series from Ball

I bought one each of the Skylights and Stampede series and I've seen a couple Navajo series plants too. One was a 3 gallon Navajo Purple at KMart. Salvia greggii is usually much harder to find in my area so I'm just thrilled.
I wonder if the hardiness will be about the same.

Navajo Bright Red has proven hardy in the Philadelphia area; I've had it for about four years now. One of the Stampede series was for sale locally and has been incorporated into a sage hedge that was planted a couple of weeks ago. I'm one zone warmer than you so success here won't necessarily be meaningful for you.

Christie

I just bought a 'Stampede' while on a trip to Detrroit so I will be testing it for the first time this year. the color was marked 'cherry'
BTW, All my salvias are doing GREAT!

Penny

Hey Penny - You travel a long way to buy plants. lol I'd like to hear how it does. By the way, one of my subrotunda seedlings looks a little different than the others. Do yours all look the same? Mine are still pretty small so no flowers yet. Hope they grow fast.

The Navajo I saw at K-mart was in a 3 gallon container but I found a smaller one this week that was cheaper. I think it was Navajo Rose. Also found Cape Fuchsia 'Devil's Tears' at the same K-mart which I think may be hardy for me from what I've read.

I FINALLY found Black and Blue today at a Farm and Home store. I almost didn't stop but so glad I did since I'd checked every nursery around.

Wardda - Thanks for the info on the Stampede and Navajo. I didn't realize that Philadelphia is in zone 7. I'm in zone six but our cold temps are usually short lived so some zone 7 plants do ok here. It's fun to try. Maybe Mother Nature will go easy on us next winter. That would help a bunch.

Just discovered the Greggii Stampede salvias. I go to the Farmers Market in Raleigh and one vendor has at least 4-6 different Stampede salvia. I bought a great sharp pink and a lavender one. I have many other Greggii and I'm not sure what the Spampede series means? Also the Nav. series you are talking about on this thread. Richard D.-- Maybe you can explain this to me. Are they different cultivars? Thought the Greggii was the cultivar? Love the salvias of any kind. Black and Blue and the Indigo Spires are favorites for taller ones. Always looking for new Salvias now have about 30 different ones.

the ones I found were purplish. Greggii is a species of salvia. The named varieties of greggii are from cuttings taken from a single original plant that had characters that were desirable. Think apples - every Winesap in existance is from one original tree.

Hold up.. Lowe's can order plants? I never knew that, then again, I never had much faith in the garden dept to ask.

This past week I picked up a few pots of the Salvia greggii Stampede at our local Habitat Restore for 50cents each. I was elated, then began to wonder if they were hardy for my area. I noticed that you posted they have wintered over in your area with no problem. I am in Louisville, KY zone 6a. What zone are you in wardda? Thanks. Connie

That's a bargain Connie! I'm having mixed luck wintering over salvia greggii but have fun trying. The weather is different every year. For 50cents, you might as well try.

Thanks Christie! You are right, for the price, it's worth a try. Hope they survive. They are a beautiful deep pink.
Connie

I had cream stampede on my deck all summer and the RTH hummers did use it. :)

Pam 6b

Tony Avent and I compared notes on the Stampede series last weekend and we both concluded that they were more likely to bloom over summer than other varieties. Most grew out to the same size also, except the yellow which was taller.

Yes, they bloomed quite well through the drought and heat and stayed something like a foot or smaller. The yellow one was not available locally so I can't comment on its size. I need to check a second planting I haven't visited in nearly two months, a planting in richer soil.

I took a look at the long bush sage hedge this morning on the way to work. Currently the Stampedes are barely flowering, while some of the other greggii like Wild Thing, White, and Navaho Bright Red are putting on their best display in months. All of the microphylla except neurepia are also blooming much better than the Stampede.

My salmon colored one has grown a bit and is blooming nicely now. I'm trying to decide whether to risk leaving it in the ground or pot in up and move it into my garage. If I pot up ALL my plants that are iffy in zone six and bring them in, I'll have to leave my van outside all winter. hmmmm lol

Christie,
After finding the one in Michigan, I found two more at lowes that were labeled Angelonias and were marked $1.00 each. I planted those two in the ground and the original purchase was potted up.
I brought one of my stampedes in for the winter. It is doing well I have one in the ground in a very protected area on the south side of the house. It still had green leaves until our last storm. I really wanted to test the hardiness of this plant so I figured I could afford to test it in the ground since it was only $1.00. I also sowed a few seeds about a week ago and one has germinated so far.

BTW I know this reply is way late but all my subrotunda look the same.

Penny

Hi Everyone,

How "different" is the Stampede series from other greggii cultivars/selections? Is the yellow, really Yellow, or more of very light creamy white? Are these just more greggii's that would spring up naturally from hybridizing or is there really something different here?

I have been put off by all the ones that are touted to be something new and yet turn out to be nearly the same as something else I already have or had in the past. Things like S. x jamensis "San Antonio" and of course, "Hot Lips" (I guess that one is technically stated to be a microphylla) are really something different, but a lot of these other named ones look like something that has already been around.

Thanks in advance.
John R in ABQ

So far so good with these. There are still a few green leaves on the ones planted last year in a very dry site. The ones in damper conditions don't show life but there is now way to know for sure until at least April.

They are indeed similar to others on the market. Differences, if amy will have to be determined by trialling over a number of years with different weather conditions. Last year, all but the Stampede Lavender did well during the heat. The yellow one seems a lot like M. Nevin Smith's Moonlight out of Suncrest.

Very often, plants will do well in pots the first year, then in later years their performance drops as they experience different weather, and perhaps also, as they continue to interact with the dominant microflora and microfauna in the soil, they either adapt or suffer attack. The little critters in the soil are there as part of the environmental balance and help keep out unsuitable strangers.

Hi Penny - I'm still following this post. My subrotundra that looked different from the others looked exactly like a coccinea. I think it was just a seed that snuck in. I didn't bring in any of my salvias. I intended to. I had some that were very small that I grew from seed and I was going to pot them up but got busy with other things (had to do some remodeling after a kitchen fire). I'm crossing my fingers that most of my zone-iffy salvias will return. We haven't gotten down to zero yet this winter but the last month or so, it's been pretty soggy. : ( Only one of my false yucca seeds germinated last year but it never grew any true leaves for some reason and finally died.

John R. - the yellow greggi I saw was butter colored, not bright yellow but not off-white so I guess it just depends on whether you like that color. I don't care for bright yellow so I thought it was kinda pretty. The best greggi's for me are the ones that come back after winter. lol

I'll be kicking myself if my salvias don't come back. I saved some seeds (greggi, guaranitica and darcyi) but they got exposed to a lot of heat when we had our fire then were stored in my shed until January. I put them in there because the bag they were in was so smoky then I forgot where they were. I'm going to try to plant some anyway just in case.

Home Depot can order plants in too. As crappy as it is, these 'big box' stores cut special deals with the big national plant introduction companies which means they can often get plants that you can't yet get in a local nursery. I think HD has online ordering too. Anyway, I was shocked last time I looked through their online store and saw some of the 'haute couture' of the plant world availble there when you couldn't yet get them at the high-end, local nurseries where you'd expect to find them.

Christie--- I also got a stampede series from lowes and that was all it was marked but this guy really spread and I hope it comes back for me. I dont have a pic of when it was its largest but heres a couple of pics the first pic at its smallest.

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this guy likes some elbow room
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Hummersteve:
I have tried Stampede Lavender which did not fair very
well through our drought this year.It is still hanging on
but bloom was not anything to write home about.Stampede
Cherry did very well for me, I hope the Stampede Punch
you have will do well also.I have not tried Stamped Citron
it does not appear to be available in our market.
Art

Art
Im glad to hear someone put a name to what I have, I didnt know. It did very well for me last summer now if it comes back for me, Im sure it will do well again. I have to admit I was surprised at the growth pattern of this plant.

Hummersteve
Where are you from? I see the clay soil what looks like nutsedge to right of your S.guarnitica"Black & Blue". In front of your Stampede Punch is a yellow ground cherry yes
all weeds but looks like weeds we get here in Austin Tx.
Which tells me we are close to the same USDA Zone.
Art

Art -- Im afraid to say we are pretty far apart as Im in zone 6 central indy. Theres a lot of times I wish I lived farther south like now. We are getting an arctic blast -2 temps tonight and -8-10 on thurs night. Those are actual temps by the way.