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Posted by westelle z9 Fresno CA (My Page) on Fri, May 2, 08 at 15:44
| We recently visited Ardenwood Farm in Fremont CA. There were 2 interesting Salvias that I would very much like to know what they are. I will try posting the photos... haven't had much luck to date.
The first appeared to be about 6' tall, but that may not be it's usual growth habit since it was growing in and out of a briar patch; lets say each branch was about 6' long.
The whorls were quite large 4-5 inches across.
This Salvia is represented by the first 2 photos
The Second was a 10'2" tall shrub that was at least 8' wide, The base alone was 4' across. I couldn't find much about it... even the name they gave was wrong... they said Picanté... no latin name. The next 4 photos aren't in very good order but still show you what I mean.
The leaves looked like S.eglans but had a faint pine smell, weren't sticky, and were leathery.
I thought it might be S.regla but didn't resemble the images on Google sites.
I tried putting the photos on site, but no luck, so here's a direct link:
http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/wgriswa/ |
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RE: Ardenwood Farm
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| Here is what I got on going ito the web site: This album is private. Please login.
Logging into wgriswa |
RE: Ardenwood Farm
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| Sorry about that. I did check, but I guess the cookies took over. Use,
wgriswa,
then,
griswa,
as the user name and passwords. It's not the best site in the world. I need to find a better one. |
RE: Ardenwood Farm
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- Posted by youreit z9b CA Sunset z8-9 (My Page) on
Sat, May 3, 08 at 18:02
| Westelle, that first one looks like a Phlomis to me, but others will confirm, just as they'll help with the 2nd one; all I know is it's big and beautiful! :) Sounds like a fun trip! Brenda |
RE: Ardenwood Farm
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| Thanks, Brenda. The first 2 pictures, I'm pretty sure, are Phlomis purpurea. I've looked thru so many photos of Salvias and still haven't found just exactly the right one. I think it is probably a gesneraeflora. However, the calyxes are pale yellow-green, which doesn't seem to fit any I've seen in photos. The "guys" at the farm said it was "Picanté" ???? but I can't find that at all. S.g. "Tequila" has very dark calyxes, but is one that can get this tall. The S.g. mountian form is closer, but still has darkish calyxes. This Salvia has to be quite old because the base is so huge, so this isn't some new cultivar. Rich? |
RE: Ardenwood Farm
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| The first is a Phlomis (probably mediterranean). The foliage and habit of the second indicate either the Mt Emory or Hidalgo form of Salvia regla. I'd have to see a closeup of the foliage to determine which. The Jame form would be more arboreal, unless it had been repeatedly pruned to make it bushy. If it had been there for a really long time, perhaps it was started as seed collected by Sally & Tim Walker of Southwest Native Seeds. They have collected in west Texas in the past. |
RE: Ardenwood Farm
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| Thank you, Rich.... and, Robin, for the photo. I agree that it might be S. regla "Hidalgo". It definitely isn't "Emory" or Jame. The flowers are quite red, and the foliage is yellowish green, not shiny at all, a bit leathery and had a slight scent of pine. |
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