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Salvias that don't flop?

Posted by lisa2004 NY Z5/6 (My Page) on
Wed, Jun 18, 08 at 8:23

I decided that I'd like to plant a few salvias in my gardens but when I started researching types, (looking for one that blooms in early June), I keep seeing complaints of flopping plants. I'm not that familiar with salvias, so I'm wondering if there is a variety that is less likely to flop than others? Is there a good internet site where I could see pics of different types? Also, are salvias in the sage family?


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RE: Salvias that don't flop?

Salvias are sages. Try Robin Middleton's website for photos of lots of salvias.

Here is a link that might be useful: Robin's Salvia Gallery


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RE: Salvias that don't flop?

Salvia:
greggii
buchananii
chamaedryoides (low mound)
chiapensis
clevelandii
gramhammii x lemmonii
x jamensis
microphylla
muelleri


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RE: Salvias that don't flop?

Being you are in Zone 5-6 with snowcover some
Salvia varieties to try
S. pratensis
S.nemerosa (not the form called plumosa the flowers flop)
S. Patens
S. koyamae
S. azurea "Nekan"
S pratensis & nemerosa hybrids
S. jurisicii
S. lyrata
these should be reliable perennials
Some annual forms
S. coccinea
S. splendens
S. chiapensis
S. greggii
S. microphylla
etc...
I don't know how close you are to the New York Botanic Gardens but that should show you what does well in your
area.try some other relatives like:
Perovskia atriplicifolia (Russian Sage)
etc.. Don't be afraid to experiment trial
and error you can end up with unexpected surprises.


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RE: Salvias that don't flop?

A couple of taller Salvias which may suit: guaranitica & meyeri (now correctly named as S. rhinosina).


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RE: Salvias that don't flop?

I'm zone 5 too.
I can only comment on the blue-purple forms as that's all I like-

These are all winter hardy for you-
May Night- longest blooming, most color, not flopping but it grows and expands- I divide it every 2-3 years.

Blue Queen- not a true blue not as good as Maynight not a flopper

East Friesland- not a flopper- much slower growing than Maynight ( could be where it's planted too)

Carradona- sp? new to me- no flopping yet

Transylvanica- a rangy flopper, self sows a LOT

That really blue one with a few bigger flowers that is not hardy- can't think of the name- 2-3 ft plant-
could never get a blooming plant from seed and I'm not about to buy the annual plant- ugliosa??

karen


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RE: Salvias that don't flop?

Blue Queen is nice, full upright plant with plenty of flowers.

I love Caradonna for dark stems even after blooms are done on stem. A few outer stems sag but I prop up with a couple inconspicuous "Y" twigs. It's so beautiful I want more.

**Can Caradonna be root propogated? Any experience and/or success? If not where would Salvia afficionados here suggest purchasing them?

May Night is splayed beyond salvage this year.


 
 

 

 


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