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Salvia ID

Posted by remy 6WNY (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 27, 09 at 8:56

Hi,
This salvia came up in a pot with my salvia subrotunda. I believe it is a S. coccinea. Only problem is the red is a cherry red, not hot red like normal. The first photo I bent a S. subrotunda flower over so hopefully you can see the color difference since I don;t think the color comes out clear on its own. Well, maybe it will for you.

Thanks,
Remy


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RE: Salvia ID

It's a form of Salvia coccinea.


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RE: Salvia ID

  • Posted by remy 6WNY (My Page) on
    Thu, Aug 27, 09 at 18:04

Is there a known cultivar that is this color? I know some variations, Coral Nymph, Snow Nymph, etc., but I don't know one that is this kind if red.
Thanks,
Remy


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RE: Salvia ID

The sage to the left in the first image looks like S. subrotunda, based on calyx distribution in the spike, flower shape, and relative large size of the foliage.


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RE: Salvia ID

  • Posted by remy 6WNY (My Page) on
    Thu, Aug 27, 09 at 22:27

Rich,
You must of missed what I wrote. I know that is S. sunbrotunda. I bent the S. subrotunda flower raceme into the pic to show contrast of the colors because the S. coccinea plant in the pot is not the normal S. coccinea red.
Remy


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RE: Salvia ID

Remy:
What size is the bloom spike? The colors of your coccinea
look like "Lady in Red" very distinctive green calyx.
Is this seedling one you had come up on its own?
Art


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RE: Salvia ID

  • Posted by remy 6WNY (My Page) on
    Sun, Aug 30, 09 at 9:59

Art,
Yes it is a seedling that popped up in the pot. I have had my memory jogged, and I do believe in the same big pot I planted the S. subrotunda in is the pot from last year that I planted other flowers, petunia, etc, but in it included the salvia which I thought was Lady in Red. Maybe I was wrong about the salvia last year. The red from last year is not the same shade of red this year. Could it just be a weather related aberration? Can salvias be affected like that? I know some of my roses have color changes when the weather is much cooler or hotter than normal.
Remy


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RE: Salvia ID

Well, Salvia coccinea and S. subrotunda are closely related. Does the plant seem to suggest a hybrid to you>


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RE: Salvia ID

Remy:
I have seen flowers in warmer climates(Especially red ones)
not be sun fast or fade to pink tones. But Rich has a excellent point, you may have a hybrid. The bloom spike seems very long for just being a coccinea.With the density of bloom and a higher bud count may suggest a plant of hybrid origin or a improved form.
Art


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RE: Salvia ID

  • Posted by remy 6WNY (My Page) on
    Sun, Aug 30, 09 at 21:56

Thanks Guys! I will save seed and see what happens next year.

Art,
It is more densely packed with blooms than normal. Hopefully it is not a fluke and will look the same next year.
Remy


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RE: Salvia ID

It does look like Lady in Red to me, but the wrong colour. You may have something new there! If it makes seed, sow as many as you can and see what you get - maybe a range of interesting shades!


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RE: Salvia ID

  • Posted by remy 6WNY (My Page) on
    Mon, Sep 21, 09 at 17:00

Drusilla,
I saved a bunch of seeds already. I'm looking forward to seeing what I get next year.
Remy


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RE: Salvia ID

Remy :
You may want to take some cuttings off the S.coccinea
so if the seed is of hybrid origin you still have the original. It would be interesting to collect seed from
the subrotunda to see how seed of pod parents Vs.
pollen parents. Just a suggestion.
Art


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RE: Salvia ID

Good advice from Art. I can't keep S coccinea cuttings through the winter as I don't have heated glass, so it didn't occur to me, but hang on to that colour if you can!


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