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Salvia wagneriana

Posted by wcgypsy 10 / Sunset 23 (My Page) on
Sat, Dec 31, 11 at 19:35

Rich, Robin...anyone else who may know.....
With s. wagneriana, the two forms being white bract and pink bract...any idea how these would be listed in a database? Two naturally occurring forms, neither being a cultivar?
Thanks for any info...
Sherry


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RE: Salvia wagneriana

The key to separating the two different forms would be to have the provenance or at least a solid reference to the same. That information would allow the assigning of a varietal name. Unfortunately, few people keep these records or have access to them.

These two forms should have their provenance available at a California botanical garden or herbarium. I have a salvia I got a long time ago from Smoth College that I called S. involucrata but probably is the pink bracted form of wagneriana. It shares a crimson band around the nodes with the white form. In both forms, the transition to the bracts from the adjacent leaves is not always sharp, and the leaves often have white sections and a vein structure intermediate between those of a normal leaf and those of the bracts.

The only other time I see this is when some sages decide to try to bloom in the spring, and a warm spell interferes, throwing the transformation into reverse, and generating some strange foliage.


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RE: Salvia wagneriana

I'm more familiar with salvias as a genus than other plant groups, but it would seem to me that salvias hybridize so easily that it's rather difficult to follow certain formats in a database. As in being familiar with coccinea 'tall form', or coccinea 'lavender form' or wagneriana 'white bract form'. I've seen wagneriana referred to as salvia wagneriana 'White Bract' as though it were a cultivar. This comes up because since Dave sold Dave's Garden and now has All Things Plants, we're creating a new database and I'd asked how they were going to handle the wagneriana "forms' issue ...likewise the other 'forms'. It seems that the salvias as a group seem to be quite often in a state of flux.
Thanks for your input.....


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