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Collection information on S. micro. 'Hot lips'

Posted by hybridsage Zone 8 ,Austin,Texas (My Page) on
Wed, Dec 23, 09 at 23:52

I know the story of how this plant came to the U.S. but
does anyone know where the plant was collected in Mexico?

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RE: Collection information on S. micro. 'Hot lips'


I too know how hot lips was brought to america and I thought I read somewhere exactly where it was discovered but cant recall that info. The best info I can find now is that it was near the chiapas area of southeast mexico. Here is a link to a map which shows that area.


Here is a link that might be useful: chiapas mexico

RE: Collection information on S. micro. 'Hot lips'


"The manner by which this plant reached cultivation is a story in itself. Richard Turner, editor of Pacific Horticulture Magazine, threw a house warming party, for which his Mexican maid Altagracia provided flowers, including a certain salvia from Oaxaca, Mexico, which none of Altagracia's boss's horticultural buddies had ever seen before."

If anyone has this information, it would be Altagracia. This may be futile, because it probably was a pass-along plant amongst her family and neighbors of Oaxaca. The original may not have even come from Oaxaca. To have developed its hardiness and durability, it probably was reselected a number of times as well. Microphylla might not even be native to the area.

Part of the reason microphylla may be so variable and widespread may be that it was an easily carried around and maintained plant.

On my trip with Carl & John of Yucca-Do during 1991 in northeastern Mexico, we saw two impressive plantings of Salvia darcyi in two cottage gardens. I don't know where the type location for that one is, and it may not have one.

RE: Collection information on S. micro. 'Hot lips'

I heard that the Yuccado guys found it in a garden in Northern Mexico but I can't be more exact than that. It was in a plant description I read a long time ago. Try emailing them. Maybe I am mistaking it with another plant description that I have read. It is a dangerous neighborhood between my ears. I am always loosing myself.

RE: Collection information on S. micro. 'Hot lips'

Thank you for the info. I have been out of town for the holidays. I have seen some of our red S.greggii collected in Texas that looks like the is some S.microphylla in it
(the typical Raised veins in the leaves and scalloped leaf margin). Very subtle differences but present none the less. Plus S.microphyllas high and low altitude adaptablity
with some populations occuring in very hot and dry areas (San luis potasi)and even tropical (Belize). Mara the microphylla selections Yucca Do had was San Carlos Festival,La Trinadad.
S.darcyi is from Cerro Potasi ,Neovo leon.

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