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| Hi Folks,
This is a no ID I posted some time back. It was the first one I'd water rooted. Look how nicely it's coming along. (Norma, I hope you're still reading these here, even if you're no longer responding).
A closer up of the CLEAN water roots, you can see the larger, original leaf which I used to root this, on the right:
You folks should try this, it's super clean & ever so cool (I think so anyway.) (PG) Karen |
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- Posted by pirate_girl Zone7 NYC (My Page) on Wed, Sep 28, 11 at 17:32
| Here's a different no ID, w/ which I've done the same (water rooting in Leca stones). Suddenly one day, this peeked out at me, almost as if peeking around the corner, I practically broke into song over it (yeah, I know, I'm really a dork about these):
So I lifted it out to see what was up, look how nicely this came along.
More views:
And another:
I believe this is off a Sans. I have IDed as Masoniana (no I don't wish to repeat the name discussion here thanks). My intent in this thread, is to discuss the water rooting Leca stones growing, not naming thanks.
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- Posted by pirate_girl Zone7 NYC (My Page) on Wed, Sep 28, 11 at 17:53
| Just in case you haven't had enough yet:
I think it's another no ID:
I may give up mix for growing Sans. just have to go out for larger netted pots! |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Wed, Sep 28, 11 at 21:45
| Wow, amazing to me. Good job. Mike |
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- Posted by cactusmcharris 4 / Interior BC (My Page) on Thu, Sep 29, 11 at 12:19
| No, we hadn't had enough. I love the aquaSans! |
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- Posted by bama_gardener 8b (My Page) on Fri, Sep 30, 11 at 20:35
| Karen, how long does it take for the leaf to take root? Not that I need more plants to take care of, but I think I will try this method. Beverly |
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- Posted by cactusmcharris 4 / Interior BC (My Page) on Fri, Sep 30, 11 at 21:26
| Beverly, Come on, that dodge won't work - you know you need more plants. |
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- Posted by pirate_girl Zone7 NYC (My Page) on Sat, Oct 1, 11 at 13:11
| All right then AquaSans it is, another couple of shots for your viewing pleasure:
oops, a technical glitch, be right back |
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- Posted by pirate_girl Zone7 NYC (My Page) on Sat, Oct 1, 11 at 13:23
 my favorite view of this one:
Who was it that asked how long, Kathi? It seems a few months at least. I didn't pay that much mind, but did just find the tag of one I already posted, the S Masoniana, it said Feb. of this year & I posted it in Aug. I think? So 6 months or so for that one. |
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| I broke off pups from my three Hahnii last November and put them in water to root. They added growth over the next several months, but didn't root, so I finally threw my hands up and put them in hydroton over Labor Day weekend. Five weeks later, they're still putting on new growth, and when I poke around at the hydroton I can see a few roots forming now. So... It works, I guess:
They're all a bit wan, because they haven't been getting as much light as they'd like. Once I'm sure they've really rooted down, I'll try moving them under some fluorescents and see what happens. I especially like the form of the 'Hanhii Jade Marginata' at the moment -- I'm thinking of it as my "Orchid Sansevieria", because its shape vaguely reminds me of a Phal. :)
I now have two recently-obtained trifasciata varieties (Laurentii and Futura Simplex) which arrived with almost no rhizomes or roots sitting in water; we'll see what happens... |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Sat, Oct 8, 11 at 19:28
| Is there soil under those balls? By the way, they are very pretty. More very nice pictures Karen. Thank you. Mike |
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| No, it's Lightweight Expanded Clay Aggregate (LECA) all the way down, and the saucers they're in are filled with water; the LECA wicks the water up to the roots at whatever rate the roots take it up. I'm using a slightly different technique than Karen -- a regular pot sitting in a saucer of water, rather than a net-pot seated in a larger solid pot; my method's a little cheaper and easier to maintain (no lifting anything or checking any scales to check whether it needs water), but at the cost of a higher risk of bacteria or algae starting up in the open water. And, um, I'm not Karen, she's the *other* person fooling around with this stuff. :) (And much more advanced than me, from the looks of it.) |
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- Posted by pirate_girl Zone7 NYC (My Page) on Sun, Oct 9, 11 at 21:06
| Hi Cliss, Nice to 'meet' you. Your plants don't look wan to me, in fact I think they look healthy. I'm interested to see your somewhat different technique. Looks like something I might try, running out of net pots. I often use bits of aquarium grade charcoal in my rooting water (you can find it at the pet store) to keep the algae at bay. I never have a problem w/ that. Bama Gardner, Sorry I confused you w/ someone else Beverly when you recently asked how long it took the leaves to root this way. I need to find out where to buy more Leca stones. |
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- Posted by norma_2006 (My Page) on Sun, Oct 9, 11 at 22:09
| Karen I can't believe the difference in you the past year, your have become very accurate. You go girl. I really don't need to be here now, Jeff is not even goofing off now, he also must have grown up, I love both of you. Karen have you ever tried the rhizomes in water or in a plastic bag with peat moss, yes I said that word. you just hang it up on a nail or over the shower head or on a hook someplace that gets some light, see what happens, I just put a left over rhizome just on top of the soil, with a node showing, that is how a got manolyn to start, John was going to toss out the rhizomes, I grabbed them and told him not to toss out $50.00 now I hope I gave him something to think about. With variegated plants you must use enough of a rhizome to get them started or they will revert. My hand is getting worse, so I can't type as long, I know I make mistakes, but it's just to hard for me to go in and make the corrections. Regards to all, Norma |
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| pirate_girl, Re charcoal in the rooting water... How often do you change the water? I've considered doing something like that, but I wasn't sure how effective it actually might be. |
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- Posted by pirate_girl Zone7 NYC (My Page) on Tue, Oct 11, 11 at 19:37
| I NEVER change the water, that's part of the point, I just top it off from time to time. Also, when water rooting other plants (Houseplants or assorted Hoyas), I never change the water, because I've heard that rooting plants give off a particular rooting hormone which is helpful to other plants in their rooting process, so I never change the water or consider throwing it out. As example, I've shown pix at Hoya forum of a cutting I've had growing in water & Leca stones for over a year. The vase I used for this is LOADED w/ roots, they're a bit green but w/ the charcoal chips, they're fine, I smelled the roots last week to check & they smell like fresh growth (not rot or slimy, smelly water); so I sprinkled in a few MORE charcoal chips. |
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| Interesting... Another question: Do you have any trouble with mineral buildup, or do you use distilled water? (My water's pretty hard, I've seen evidence of mineral buildup after a month or so using my method.) Thanks for the input; this is really useful for my future hydroculture plans. :) |
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- Posted by pirate_girl Zone7 NYC (My Page) on Wed, Oct 12, 11 at 15:37
| I don't have mineral build up problems no, but strangely enough, here in NYC where I live we have really good tap water. Many folks still drink the tap water here (tho' I usually boil mine first). |
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- Posted by lovemysans (My Page) on Tue, Mar 6, 12 at 14:26
| Hi pirate girl, This is great, so water isn't the issue with these guys after all, huh? I have my sans in pure pumice right now and I am using cliss's method to water. I might start letting them dry out a bit between dish refills, but they are doing great. Thank you for sharing this great news with us! |
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- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Fri, Sep 7, 12 at 11:10
| Read this thread a couple months ago and decided to try this method on a couple of the last really old, ugly leaves I wanted to remove from one of my plants. They have both formed roots! I had planned to put them in soil at this point but reviewing the pics here, I was reminded of the pics showing the pups starting. I think I will leave them in water until spring, which will save space this winter anyway. Thanks for the inspiration, all! |
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- Posted by pirate_girl Zone7 NYC (My Page) on Fri, Sep 7, 12 at 13:39
| Hi LoveMySans, Sorry, I missed your last post; you're most welcome, glad to help. Hey Purple, Nice results you've got there. I'm betting by Springtime, you'll have a nicely developed pup, should be pretty cool. If you can, set these rooted leaves up so that only the bottom inch or 2 of the leaf sits in water, that's all one needs. Looking very good to me, enjoy the wacky experiment!! |
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- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Fri, Sep 7, 12 at 14:23
| Thanks! I was going to ask about the water level. I may need to get some rocks to hold the leaves up, yet give the roots more room under water. It's as low as you suggest currently. It could easily dry out over winter like that, I'm famous for losing water plants over winter from being taken by surprise by how often they need water while I'm busy trying to ignore them so I don't fuss them to death. Just like teenagers, "ignore me until I need you here 5 minutes ago!" |
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- Posted by pirate_girl Zone7 NYC (My Page) on Fri, Sep 7, 12 at 20:19
| Well, for me the trick is to keep the plants where I'll see them often & have to water. The Aqua Sans family (now 3 of them in a larger basket), gets topped off every 2-3 days. The basket stays on my kitchen table under the Hoya collection, which I look at daily. |
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- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Sun, Oct 14, 12 at 14:25
| As usual, you're totally right. I've managed to set myself up with a lot of stuff that will require more attention this winter than I usually pay. This leaf has sprouted 2 microscopic babies, still in water. Can you see the one? I couldn't manage to get a shot with both showing. So cute! About time for an update of yours PG? |
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- Posted by pirate_girl Zone7 NYC (My Page) on Sun, Oct 14, 12 at 17:39
| Hey Purp, Yes, I see the one pup, congrats to you!!! See, they really just want to grow. Well I'm still down a computer, but am at the office, so here's a couple of quick updates, no close ups tho' sorry. The AquaSans family as they reside under the Hoyas on my kitchen table:
Sorry, I can't tell what that curled Sans. leaf is in the front, yikes what is that -- these ARE my own plants after all!!
Oh, I see that's the original rooting leaf (wider blade) w/ a newer, smaller leaf hanging over it, superimposed it looks like, wow confusing image! I also love that there's not a yellow stripe in the bunch!! (I happen to hate the yellow stripe on Sans). |
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- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Mon, Oct 15, 12 at 9:22
| Very cool! I would like to find some of those mesh pots. If any of your Sans disgrace themselves with a yellow stripe, I'd be happy to take them off of your hands! |
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