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Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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Posted by MidnightStorm z8 Carolina (My Page) on Mon, Jan 2, 06 at 10:00
| Hello Southern Belles and Southern Gentlemen:
I would like to add some cottage-type plants to my garden but I'm wondering how these types of flowers will do in the hot and humid summers here in Wilmington, North Carolina.
Does anyone have any experience growing larkspur, delphinium, foxglove, canterbury bells, hollyhocks, lavendar, or lupine in my area? If so, do you have any tips (plant in shade, prone to mildew, don't waste time trying to grow them here, etc.)
Thanks very much for taking the time to read this post.
Linda |
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RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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I'm in Kure Beach and I've grown hollyhock and larkspur. I started both in the Fall. The larkspur was great in the spring, but died off when summer rolled around. Not a bad thing necessarily, since they were blooming when other things were just coming up. The hollyhock....Lord. I wish I knew waht kind it was because it lived for 3 years and each spring would grow to almost 7 'tall. I am NOT kidding. Unfortunately, I planted it right next to the front door so I had to prune and stake it or by July we literally couldn't get in the front door. I haven't tried foxglove; no good reason, just haven't. I have heard, that lavendar would hate it here because of the humidity. Don't know about lupine or canterbury bells. Good luck! Barb |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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| have grown foxgloves for years they do great ---------------lupine i have tried a number of times in the shade in the sun with sharp drainage have had zero plants to live summer humidity get to them if you get them to live here please email me with what you did to make it happen for you------ I live in Holly Ridge NC- just up the street 30 miles or so------David Rowe |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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Hi to all you "locals"-- If you've ever been to Airlie Gardens in the spring, they have wonderful examples of delphiniums, larkspur, and foxglove growing in their gardens. I believe they bloom in March & April, before the hot summer sets in. Don't know about lavendar, though, can't remember seeing any there. |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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| Maybe it's because I'm a bit further south than the other gardeners that have replied, but I have had no success with hollyhocks, (although I've seen them growing in other local gardens) or foxglove. Lupines and larkspurs are only a gardening fantasy for me, it's just too darn hot here. However I do have a type of lavender that grows quite happly in my garden. I got my start at a plant exchange last year. It was identified as Spanish Lavender. It has not bloomed yet, but the plant is strong and the leaves smell lovely. Happy gardening. |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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| I live in the Florida panhandle and have grown hollyhocks for several years with good success in partial shade. Haven't tried any of the others you mentioned. |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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Thank you to everyone who has responded so far to my original post. Since I am a new gardener, I am anxious to hear from anyone and everyone who has any tips or experiences with growing some of the cottage garden plants I mentioned. BEACHBARBIE: Are you sure you can't remember what kind of Hollyhocks those were that you planted? They apparently did quite well in our area. Were yours in a sunny spot or a more shaded area? DAVID_ROWE: Thanks for your advice on Lupine; I don't believe I'll even attempt those at this time. Glad to hear your Foxglove did well. I can't wait to try those. Do hummingbirds like them? BRUNSWICKCOUNTY: I have only been to Airlie Gardens once and that was several years ago. I live quite close though so I'll definitely plan on going through there in the spring and checking out their delphiniums, larkspur, and floxglove. Hmmmm. . . I wonder who I could talk to at the garden to find out exactly what type of varieties they have planted there? CRACKERGAL: Can you tell me more about the Spanish Lavender you planted? Did you plant it in a shady spot? Is your ground exceptionally well drained? Or just average? SUSANGARRISON: Did you plant a specific type of Hollyhock? What time of the year did you plant yours? Did you plant from seed? Thanks again everyone! |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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| Hello! Here is my two cents worth... Lavender - I grow Spanish Lavender in Charleston and it does wonderfully. It is planted next to concrete slab (the leached lime supposedly helps) and in full sun. This is its fifth year and it is huge. Bloomed from March 23 till late fall. Hollyhocks - We grow some gorgeous ones in the public garden I work in. They are in full sun and thrive. Seems like they bloomed in June. Larkspur - Throw seeds on the ground even this late in the year and they will start blooming like crazy in late April. Then they reseed every year but are easy to pull up. Absolutely love them! Foxglove - start in the fall for spring bloom. Some varieties require two years to bloom and haven't done as well for me. Columbine - you didn't mention these but they do great from direct sowing and will reseed prolifically. Sow from mid-fall until about now. Needs some afternoon shade or filtered light. Starts blooming mid April. Forget-me-nots - same as columbine. The others you listed I don't have any experience with. Happy southern gardening! |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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I'm 90% sure it was an "old fashioned" hollyhock. It was in a sunny location - from morning until early afternoon. I got the seeds when I first started gardening, so I wasn't keeping as good records as I do now. I'll look at pics online and see if I can find it. Barb |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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| I live just outside of Raleigh and I've tried growing most of them. Lupines don't do well in hot, dry weather so I don't imagine that they grow well here. I've certainly never seen them offered in nurseries. There was a beautiful display of blue larkspur at NC State University but they died out as the weather warmed exactly as BeachBarbie stated. I've tried foxgloves a few times but they've never returned the second year. I'm told if you get the soil conditions and sun just right they will thrive. I'm trying again this year with mature plants, well drained soil and sun in the a.m. with shade in the afternoon. We'll see. I've also tried lavendar several times but it rots each time mid-summer even when I surround the plants with stones and plant them in well-draned soil. They survived in containers but didn't bloom well. Canterbury bells do pretty well. They will die out slowly after a few years but I don't mind adding a couple of plants each year to keep them going. As for delphiniums, "Blue Mirror" is the best cultivar for our hot, humid climate. They're smaller and looser than traditional delphiniums but the blue is brilliant. I treat them as annuals - but they bloom a good 4-6 weeks and they are easily found in nurseries. I haven't grown hollyhocks but from the offerings in the plant catalogs, they appear to do very well in our area. You may want to try verbascum which grows well and of course phlox perform great if you use the mildew resistant strains like "David". If you don't already receive the catalog from Plant Delights Nursery I'd recommend it. They have open houses a few times a year and it would be a nice day trip and a great education to tour their gardens. Their web site is plantdelights.com. Welcome to North Carolina! |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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BEACHBARBIE: Thank you for checking into what kind of hollyhocks you had that did well for you. I'm wondering if I can find some seeds online for the old fashioned hollyhocks (as opposed to buying the plants themselves). I'm a new gardener and I'm finding it to be quite expensive to buy plants because I need so many things (I have also started a butterfly garden and I'm trying to add to that as my budget allows). Can you keep me informed on anything else you find out about your old-fashioned hollyhocks? You've already been a big help. RAVEN20: It just so happens I was at one of the Lowe's stores here in town yesterday and I saw tiny new Lupine plants for sale. There was only one kind and I can't remember now what it was. But I was wondering if they were stocking that kind because it was supposed to grow here. I didn't buy any because I was hesitant after everything I've read online. I wouldn't mind trying some larkspur if they would do reasonably well before the heat gets them. I love pansies and violas and have lots of them but they don't last long after the hot weather sets in. But I still love them. I guess finding the right type of larkspur would be the key. Maybe I could try to email someone at NC State University to get more info on what kind they had. I planted one mature foxglove last year as a test. I put it in a little micro-climate corner of my yard that was sheltered from wind and only gets a bit of morning sun. It bloomed for quite a while and then I finally clipped the last of the spent blooms off and left it alone. I noticed yesterday that the green leaves of the main plant were still there and looked very healthy. I wonder if it will bloom again this spring? I just read an article somewhere on growing lavender (Garden Gate Magazine, maybe?) in humid southern conditions and this person mentioned using the white rock to reflect sun just as you said. The article also suggested three specific types of lavender (which I don't remember at this moment). I clipped the article because I was thinking of trying their method. It's disheartening though to hear that you tried the rocks and that still didn't keep your plants from rotting. Did yours have good air circulation where you planted them? Where they in raised beds? I wonder why they don't bloom well in containers? I'll find that article and get back to you on the types of lavender this person used. I would like to try the 'Blue Mirror' delphiniums you mentioned. Do you know where I can find them? My first attempt at Phlox failed but I really like phlox so maybe I'll try to find one of the mildew resistant strains you mentioned. And thanks for the link to Plant Delights. . . I'm going to check them out right now. |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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| One other plant that I thought you might like - penstamon. The Husker's Red variety (reddish-green leaves and white flower) looks a lot like canterbury bells and performs very well here. Lowes offers it as do most nurseries but it sells out fast. And I purchased the delphiniums from both Lowes and nurseries. Interesting about the Lupines. I wonder if anyone has tried them. I tried lavendar Munstead and Hidcote. I did everything that was suggested - good air circulation, well-drained soil, the white rock and plenty of sun. It did well until mid-July when I think the humidity just gets to it. If you like pansies, I really think you'll like Nierembergia gracilis 'Starry Eyes'. Look at the catalog on the PlantDelights web site. I bought one there last summer and it was covered with light blue flowers the entire summer. |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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It doesn't get any more humid than here in Florida. I have a French Lavender that is in it's third year for me and doing wonderfully. It is in full sun but under the overhang of my front porch which helps keep it from drowning I guess. It probably also helps keep the ph from getting too low (it is a concrete porch). As for Larkspur, they will do wonderful for you every spring and come back every year. Have fun! Theresa |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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| Hi Linda, Wondering if you tried to grow hollyhocks and how they are doing? I bought one last year but just grew to a small plant - no flowers. This year however, it's gorgeous! I'd be happy to give you some seeds once I gather them - salmon colored flowers. Sandy (Wilmington - near Monkey Junction) |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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| Hi there, Sandy: I have not yet tried to grow Hollyhocks but I do have some Foxglove that seems to be doing okay so far. I also planted Lavender last month which is doing okay too. I've heard if the Lavender makes it through August here in our area then it can be considered a success; so we'll see. I would love to get some Hollyhock seed from you some time. The only reason I haven't tried to grow it yet is because I can't make up mine mind which kind to try. I definitely still want to try to grow some though. I live on Beasley Road near Holly Tree Road so I don't think you're too far away from me if you're in the Monkey Junction area. Linda |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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Hi Sandy, Thanks so much for reviving this thread. There's a lot of good information here. I'm inspired to give larkspur and hollyhocks a try again this fall/winter. And I just received three strawberry foxglove plants from Bluestone. I'm going to plant them in partal shade and think good thoughts. If they live long enough to bloom, I'll post some photos. My lavender plants are still doing very well. I guess that the next couple of months will be the test. Currently, They are strong, healthy plants, but not many blooms yet. My two year old plant has a few flowers, it's in a rather shady spot so that may account for the lack of blooms. I have two varites growing now. Fernleaf Lavender, Lavandula Multifida. And Spanish Lavender, Lavadula Stoechas. I'm not doing anything special to these plants. Lavender seems to like my dry, sandy soil. (I'm glad SOMETHING does) I have lots of gardening challanges, but drainage isn't one of them. ;-) Happy gardening to all.. Cindy |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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| Granted it's possible to grow these plants, but in my experience, they never do as well in the Lowcountry as they do in cooler areas. There's a good reason why we don't see these things growing in everyone's yard down here. In the past 5 years, I've grown several kinds of hollyhocks, foxgloves, sweetpeas, delphiniums, larkspur and lavenders, among others. I sowed the seeds in September and planted the babies in the garden in January-February, except for larkspur, which was sowed directly in a flowerbed. Hollyhocks grew huge and bloomed in late May. They grew so large and unruly that I removed them in July. What's more, I staked the plants with sturdy 4-foot 1x2 stakes, but the plants outgrew them. I set the seedlings on 2'centers, but apparently they needed more room. I suspect they got too much water, so the stems were not strong and they wanted to flop and sprawl. If I ever grow them again, I'll put them in a bed by themselves. Ditto for foxgloves, but they don't get as large, so they sprawl less. If I do these again, I'll just do 2 or 3 as an accent. I grew foxgloves for 3 years and none of them survived the summer. English lavender survived a couple of years in the ground. It was planted at the base of a red honeysuckle in sandy unimproved soil. I took it out when it began looking ratty. Spanish lavender has been more reliable. I have it planted in a bed that covers an old tree stump. The soil is poor and sandy and drains quickly. The only other perennial that likes this location is lantana. Larkspur is easy -- sow it in full sun, well-drained bed in October. It blooms April-May and dies down in summer. Let it go to seed and it'll come back the next spring. Delphiniums -- I planted some in February and they bloomed in April, however the plants were small. They'd probably get larger if planted in the fall. I've been thinking about trying a few again and planting them in a large container garden. |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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- Posted by mudbug 8b Coastal NC (My Page) on
Wed, Jun 14, 06 at 12:46
| Hi, I am in Morehead City. Soil is sandy here too. I have had good luck with foxgloves and Hollyhock. Lupines and forget me nots --- forget it. I have tried several times. I have found that placing the foxgloves in a little more sun than you would expect, keeps the humidity funk away. I planted one in a lot of shade and the bugs tore it up. Verbascum does well here also. I tried that last year and it is adorable. Hope this helps! Mudbug |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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| Thanks to everyone for posting such helpful information about the topic of what does well in the Wilmington area and what does not. Since I first posted back in January I have planted foxglove in two places in my yard. One place got a lot more shade than I anticipated after the leaves on the trees filled in. The foxglove is not doing so well there and the bugs are eating it. The other spot gets some morning sun but probably not enough. It's alive but I wouldn't say it's thriving by any means. I may try them in a sunnier spot next time. Anyone have experience growing them in more sun in this area? I planted lavender a couple of months ago and so far, so good. But I'll wait and see if they're still alive in early September before I celebrate. |
RE: Will Larkspur, Hollyhock, or Foxglove Grow in Wilmington?
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| You all are making me so homesick! I'm sure that if you called Airlie Gardens, they would be able to put you in touch with their head gardener who could give you a lot of information on the flowers that they grow and although I never went to Airlie Gardens..passed by it many times enroute to Wrightsville Beach. Maybe stop by there. You know the gardens will probably be in full bloom sooner than you think, especially during Azelea Festival time. When is that this year? I would think that Airlie Gardens gets a lot of shade with all those mature trees around there with all the spanish moss hanging from the trees. Maybe if you go on their website, it might mention who is in charge of the gardens. I was "home" last Fall. Been gone 50 yrs. but it'll always be "home" to me. Try calling Tinga nurseries out Castle Hayne area. They may be able to help you with some of your questions. |
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