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Saving Gem Marigold Seeds (Tagetes tenuifolia)

Posted by aubade NJ, 6b (My Page) on
Sun, Apr 11, 10 at 20:03

Last year I planted lemon, tangerine and red gem marigolds for the 1st time. (Tagetes tenuifolia) I bought the lemon gems from Seeds of Change, but the red and tangerine I bought as plants from an herb farm.

o I saved the seeds from the plants just like I would regular marigolds. Basically I just pulled the brown, dried up seeds heads off of the plants in the fall, then put them in an envelope and saved them in an air-tight plastic container.

Last week I planted the remaining Seeds of Change lemon gem seeds, plus the red and tangerine ones I saved. I actually planted the red seeds a day before the lemon. Now, the lemons have already sprouted, but none of the red or tangerines have.

So I'm just wondering, is there something else I should have done to save these seeds? Is there something special the seed companies do to make them germinate better?

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RE: Saving Gem Marigold Seeds (Tagetes tenuifolia)

  • Posted by remy 6WNY (My Page) on
    Mon, Apr 12, 10 at 18:00

Hi Aubade,
Well, there's a lot of things to address. I hope it all makes sense. : )
First, if you plant a bunch of different named cultivars of marigolds that are all the same species, you will probably get crosses and your seed that you saved will make babies that look different than the parent. Also if you grew a hybrid cultivar with no other marigolds around to play hanky panky with, you will still have babies different from the seed you saved. You might not care though, and sometimes the babies don't vary too much from the parent.
Second, when saving seed it is best to save seed along the way from blooms from different times. If no pollinators are about and/or the weather is too hot or too cold, you will not get viable seed from the blooms. So it is possible to save seed from the end of the season and have few actually good seed in the dried flower heads.
Third, it is good to put seeds you saved in an envelope. The air tight container is ok, but only after you are sure the seeds are sufficiently dry. Seeds can be ripe on a plant, but there is still tiny amounts of moisture that need to dissipate before they can be put in an airtight environment. I personally don't put in plastic because of this.
Fourth, the same types of seed can be planted at the same time and sprouting times can vary. It can be a week or two difference sometimes. I'm not sure why, but it happens all the time.
Fifth, seed companies do a good(well most of the time) job separating a higher percentage of viable seed from the unviable. They don't treat the seed to germinate better. To get technical, there's a few seeds they do prep for better germination, but in most cases like the marigolds they've done nothing to the seed.
You may still get sprouts, or you may not. If you don't, hopefully you figure out what happened and you correct that mistake this year.

RE: Saving Gem Marigold Seeds (Tagetes tenuifolia)

That is very helpful info, thanks!
Hopefully they'll still sprout...

RE: Saving Gem Marigold Seeds (Tagetes tenuifolia)

So the seeds I saved never sprouted. :-(
I decided I might as well try soaking and pre-sprouting the rest of them I saved, to see if any will grow.

But I'm wondering what will happen since the 3 different colors weren't separated. They were all Tagetes tenuifolia, but yellow, red and tangerine. So does that mean new plants from the seeds I saved would be one of these colors or some combination of them?

RE: Saving Gem Marigold Seeds (Tagetes tenuifolia)

  • Posted by remy 6WNY (My Page) on
    Mon, Apr 26, 10 at 17:57

Hi Aubade,
I don't know dominant traits of Tagetes tenuifolia, but the seedlings would probably be heavy on a specific color. You could get all kinds of possible combos of those colors though.

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