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Collecting kale seeds and their appearance

Posted by kalanchoe_tomentosa LA (My Page) on
Tue, Apr 15, 08 at 21:39

I just recently started seed saving and am still new to it. I haven't had much trouble until now with kale. I was wondering where the seeds are and when to collect them. I'm not sure which variety it is, but any help is greatly appreciated! I was also wondering what they look like because I collected some pods that may be them (they look like wheat grains in size and color), but when I opened the pods the "could-be" seeds are tiny, tiny black dots that I need a magnifing glass to see clearly. Again thanks for any help!


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RE: Collecting kale seeds and their appearance

  • Posted by remy 6WNY (My Page) on
    Thu, Apr 17, 08 at 19:53

Hi,
I'm not sure what you collected, possibly immature or unfertilized seed, but it is not good kale seed. Kale seed is little gray/brown ball shaped seed. They are not large, but definitely big enough to see without a magnifying glass.
I've not seen Kale seed pods and could not find a pic. I did find one of Broccoli and since they are closely related in the Brassica family, I would think the pods are somewhat similar.
Remy

Here is a link that might be useful: Page w/Broccoli Seed Pod Pic


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RE: Collecting kale seeds and their appearance

Thanks! This is really helpful. I collected more of the "pods" I collected and found out they were flowers that never bloomed, and the "seeds" inside were dried out stamens. Thank you for the picture; I now have an idea of what to look for.


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Kale: When are green pods mature enough for viable seeds?

  • Posted by ppod 6 SE NY (My Page) on
    Wed, Jun 10, 09 at 15:02

My Blue Curled Scotch and Blue Curled Vates kale plants blomed profusely, so I left them to set seeds. They now have an abundant number of seed pods, all green, swollen with seeds, some pods thicker (older) than others. Neither pods nor seed-pod stems have started drying up or browning yet.

I don't want to pick the seeds prior to them being viable. However, I don't want to loose them to slugs (who eat the immature pods & seeds), or to chipmunks (who'll raid everything as soon as they discover this treasure).

My question is this, will the seeds in the largest pods be viable? I think so. Would you know of any pics I could look at to compare?

I'll try to post a few pics of my plants later.

Your comments would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Here is a link that might be useful: Blue Curled Scotch and Blue Curled Vates


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RE: Collecting kale seeds and their appearance

  • Posted by remy 6WNY (My Page) on
    Thu, Jun 11, 09 at 19:34

Hi PPod,
I'm sure all your swollen pods have viable seed so that is good news. The sort of bad news is your Kale probably cross pollinated with each other since I'm assuming their bloom times coincided. Brassica family members are very promiscuous with each other, lol. At least you have 2 kales, and I can't imagine a crosses between them being a bad thing.
I can't help you much with the scavengers. I would keep them propped up good to keep the slugs at bay, but I don't know about chipmunks(and I hope it stays that way!)
Remy


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RE: Collecting kale seeds and their appearance

  • Posted by ppod 6 SE NY (My Page) on
    Fri, Jun 12, 09 at 23:22

Hi Remy, Yes, I hope so also for your sake (about the chipmunks, the little devils).

About the two varieties of kale I'm growing, who knows if they're not one and the same? But if not, perhaps I'll get hybrid vigor! Anyway, I'd like to grow a more heavily savoyed kale (b/c they're beautiful). If you know of such a variety, let me know.

The slugs, I hand-picked (with pieces of wood). The first day a huge number, then fewer, then fewer, and on the fourth day, I could count 'em (but can't remember). Anyway, the point is, that their numbers can be reduced. Big buckets w/soapy water (like for washing floors) are excellent, just right in size. Leave one under the kale, aim, and the creeps drop right into the pool. Bingo!


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Harvest

  • Posted by ppod 6 SE NY (My Page) on
    Fri, Jun 12, 09 at 23:35

Sorry, forgot to say that I'll harvest the seeds tomorrow..... Thanks, Remy, for your reply.


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