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Is Dead Nettle Invasive?

Posted by d_giffin 5 (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 14, 08 at 9:32

One of the plants I have seen recommended for shade is dead nettle. It looks like it would be a pretty ground cover, but I am wondering if it is invasive, sort of like vinca. has anyone planted this?


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RE: Is Dead Nettle Invasive?

It is considered by many to be a weed but perhaps there are better behaved cultivars/forms of it?


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RE: Is Dead Nettle Invasive?

It certainly can be invasive in my zone, although I've seen it remain quite tame where it was growing in heavy clay under the eaves of a house. In a place like that it might be one of the few things that would grow.

If your conditions are too favorable to invasive plants, how about this pretty part shade plant: Boehmeria nipononivea 'Kogane Mushi'


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RE: Is Dead Nettle Invasive?

  • Posted by dannie 3b NWO Canada (My Page) on
    Sun, Jun 15, 08 at 11:00

It certainly isn't invasive in my zone. I actually lost most of mine over the winter. The neighbour has some that is reliable for him and he is going to give me a few plants.


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RE: Is Dead Nettle Invasive?

I grow several varieties of Dead Nettle and it is a nice ground cover. It seems to grow from a single root, so would be easy to remove or cut back, if needed.


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RE: Is Dead Nettle Invasive?

I have Lamiastrum galobdeon with the yellow flower spikes. It can be incredibly invasive given enough moisture. And it is not easy to pull as it roots at every node. We have about an acre of it covering our leach bed. It is beginning to escape down into the woods which concerns me as it will choke out everything in its path.

The newer hybrid lamiums might be less invasive but I would start with a small amount and keep an eye on it.

Here are less invasive species for groundcover in shade
European Ginger
Canadian Ginger
Solomons Seals - there are many types
Epimediums
dwarf hostas - if you want a truly dense groundcover this will do it. Just keep dividing and replanting every 2-3 yrs.
Hellebores - if your soil is nicely mulched and organic to start with they reseed with a vengeance. I have hundreds of seedlings this yr to replant into the woods.
lily of the valley - takes anything you throw at it. Will be more dense if more moisture but weeds don't grow in it because the roots are interconnected and kind of webby.
Astilbe pumila Chinensis
Lady fern - a beautiful groundcover even for dry areas
Sensitive Fern
Christmas fern - an evergreen
daylilies - use dwarfs
Pulmonaria - one of my favorites - no weeds will grow in this once it gets going and it can take drought once established
Filipendula ulmaria Aurea - bright yellow foliage
Hardy geraniums - the pale pinks require less light
Brunnera
Comfrey
Sweet Woodruff
Tiarella's
Some various grasses - do a search
Carex species - can't be wet in winter so plant them in little mounds if your soil is heavy or wet
Oenothera - the yellow sundrops - watch out they reseed easily but can be pulled easy - are a pretty, clear yellow - can take high shade
Monarda Jacob Kline - I never would have known this could take so much shade except it seeded itself at the edge of the woods and does fine - more moisture makes it grow faster. - likes drainage. This is also true for Becky Daisy and Rudbeckia - Black eyed Susans. You'd be surprised how much shade they can take and still bloom heavily.

Other invasives are lirope and sometimes ajuga. I use ajuga all over my place and in some areas it spreads and others I have to keep replanting it - so depends on conditions. Liriope can be hard as heck to remove but its super effective as a dense groundcover if you can keep it in bounds. Less moisture slows it down.

Euonymous - I use a green and white variegated and also a green and yellow variegated that stay low to the ground. They will spread more in more light but they do offer nice evergreen foliage.

Vinca is a nice shiny green leaf with purple flowers in spring. The downside to vinca in my opinion is that it roots a little sparsely and can let weeds grow thru it. The upside to that is that you can interplant spring bulbs in it and they aren't choked out.

I let various columbines, Dames Rocket ( Hesperis matronalis) and a purple malva go to seed all over my shade gardens and then just remove what I didn't like after they bloom. They are all easy to pull with one hand.

Never under any circumstances except a buried 3 foot deep pot should you plant Houttuynia - chameleon plant, any mints, bamboos, chives, lemon balm, Chasmanthium - seeds heavily, Feasy grass and Campanula Cherry Bells. I have chocolate mint in a giant pot that I just keep at an edge because its fun to walk by and smell it - but would never plant it out unless it was bounded by cement.

Finally - the Lychnis family can be very very invasive and it runs very quickly - doubling and quadruping in size geometrically depending on how much moisture and light.
The plant called Gooseneck is an example. I planted it a wet area by the driveway because I don't think it can get away there - but if it starts to move into some other groundcovers I will use RoundUp on it - it has to be dug out with a shovel and fills right back in in a few weeks - thats how happy it is.

Come to think of it - watch all the Persicaria's also. I planted a cutting 4 yrs ago and it is all over my property now - it reseeds vigorously. I treat it as a weed now.


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RE: Is Dead Nettle Invasive?

Hi Alyrics - That said about your yellow blooming Lamiastrum, I'm really worried for the first time!!!

I love the variegated foliage as ground cover in front of Hosta bed (40ft longx7ft depth) I have Arch Angel L that I planted 7 yrs ago along w/ better behaved White Nancy & Shell Pink. Yellow behave like an angel all those years until this season, when like a bad dream, simply invaded a huge area, crawling under the huge hostas, suffocated White Nancy which already suffered from the 2wk freeze of Apr '07. Thank heavens not Shell Pink! For one named Arch Angel, is not behaving like one!!! LOL I ended up using my weeder (to open an area for a bush) - it was a tangle mess out there! :-(((

My ??? -1) Have you found what can control this Arch Angel turned thug?
2) Is my Arch Angel the same as your 'Galobdeon'?
3) Will constant trimming or light tilling finally kill those roots.

I very much appreciate your response - TIA! €:)


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RE: Is Dead Nettle Invasive?

I have the same problem with the yellow blooming Lamiastrum. It has taken over one of my flower beds and I cant remove it. Its very hard to pull. Im thinking of putting something like a tarp over it for the winter and hope it dies.


 
 

 

 


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