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Posted by donnabaskets 7b-8 MS (My Page) on Fri, Aug 21, 09 at 15:46
Hello, All
I am on a quest for a friend. She wants a red (purply is okay, pink is not) rose with great fragrance that blooms repeatedly and won't get over four feet high and wide. Does such a rose exist for the Deep South? (Oh, and it needs to have reasonably healthy foliage. No spraying.)
Thanks for your help! |
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RE: Anyone grow a fragrant red rose?
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| Well, I guess this verifies my research. It would appear that red roses, by definition, have no fragrance! |
RE: Anyone grow a fragrant red rose?
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Mr. Lincoln is great. True red, I never spray it and it blooms until frost. I have two and would buy more.
The form and fragrance are lovely. |
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| No kidding! Thanks for the input! |
RE: Anyone grow a fragrant red rose?
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Lots of positive reviews on Dave's Garden about Mr. Lincoln
from all over the South so you don't have to just take my word on it though! |
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| I would suggest moseying over to the Roses Forum and posting this question there.....you will probably get more answers than you know what to do with! There are numerous fragrant red roses, including the wonderful Mr. Lincoln (which can get quite tall). Also, Chrysler Imperial, Oklahoma (Mr. Lincoln's shorter brother!), Olympiad, Firefighter, etc., etc. if you are looking for the hybrid tea type rose. In humid climates, many hybrid teas do require spraying to look their best, but it's always worth trying a variety; some do have success! There are also lots of floribunda and shrub roses to choose from, many of which can be grown no spray. Good luck, Lynn |
RE: Anyone grow a fragrant red rose?
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i would look into some of the old-garden roses. i gave up growing hybrid teas years ago when i gave up using chemicals. i have not grown this one (see link below for rose de rescht) but it looks to be a good choice for the the south. these are not as pure of form if you like the shape of the hybrid tea flowers for cutting but i have come to like the qualities they posess better than the hybrid teas.
also, have a look at amy padgett's website about growing roses in the south:
http://www.amypadgett.com/Roses.htm |
Here is a link that might be useful: Rose de Rescht
RE: Anyone grow a fragrant red rose?
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| Oklahoma is breathtaking, looks like black-red velvet & smells like heaven. It's a grandiflora, if I remember right, a cross between hybrid tea & floribunda, so it isn't what I call a "feral" rose (starts out domesticated & runs wild-feral roses are the ones that do best in my crowded Texas garden!). She'll have to give it reasonable care, but she'll be so thrilled that she'll be eager to care for it. |
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| I have to second the nomination for Mr. Lincoln. I gave up spraying roses about 10 years ago, and this HT is still one of the healthiest and most prolific of the survivors. The fragrance is unsurpassed, in my opinion. I love chinas and teas, too, but for a traditional "rose" form, you can't beat it. |
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| This has been the first year of growing roses for me. I asked a trusted nursery for their choice of the best red rose in terms of classic form and fragrance--without delay, he suggested Mr. Lincoln. If you want a climber, consider Don Juan ( pretty, aromatic and reported to do well in southern heat). |
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I think it's easy to get caught up in the idea that hybrid teas are difficult while ogr's are fabulous. It really depends on the individual rose.
The fairy, for instance is a giant blackspot mess in my yard and I would take a Peace or Mr. lincoln over that or another blackspot mess that only blooms once such as zephirine drouhin ( a few blooms in summer but not much)
Although it's nice to have them all.... |
RE: Anyone grow a fragrant red rose?
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| This is all news to me. I hadn't even considered a hybrid tea because of their persnickety reputation. I had asked over in the Rose Forum, actually, and their recommendation was Lavaglut. However, someone from Kansas City said it has to be sprayed in summer, and this is Mississippi. We were really thinking of a shrub rose: nice and bushy. Would Mr. Lincoln be that, or is it the traditaionlly "bony" looking hybrid tea? |
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