Return to the Square Foot Gardening Forum | Post a Follow-Up

 o
Request for comments

Posted by gar_newbie Cincinnati (My Page) on
Fri, Mar 27, 09 at 17:59

Hi Everyone,

First time gardener from Ohio need your help. TIA.

I am planning for vegetable plants in a wooden boxes of size 4 foot x 4 foot x 8 inches (=~ 11 cubic foot). Four of these boxes makes 45 cubic foot approximately.

I filled these four boxes with the soil less medium as following:
Coarse Vermiculite – 15 cubic foot
Sphagnum Peat Moss – 15 cubic foot
`Compost kind of` – 15 cubic foot (1 cubic foot each of below)

I have searched 50+ of garden centers locally (zip code: 45040) and couldn't find so called "COMPOST". For next year I will be preparing my own compost so this question won't arise. But, to begin my first/fresh vegetable garden; in the place of compost I used the following
mix. I mixed them *VERY* thorough spending a week.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Question: is the following mix 'OK' to begin my garden? Am I sort of something here? Am I going to kill the plants with Over dosage? Any other suggestions/ideas to help myself is greatly appreciated.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

My `Compost kind of` - 15 cubic foot is:

1.Mother Nature's – SWEET PEET – Composted soil conditioner – 1 cubic foot
2.Nea's – POSY POWER – Powerful soil booster – 1 cubic foot
3.Premier Horticulture – PRO MIX – Growing mix – 1 cubic foot
4.Nature's Helper – MUSHROOM COMPOST – Organic soil – 1 cubic foot
5.Garden Magic – COMPOST AND MANURE – Peat & Manure – 1 cubic foot
6.Ace – COMPOSTED MANURE – Loosens soil – 1 cubic foot
7.New Plant Life – MUSHROOM COMPOST SOIL – Soil amendment - 1 cubic foot
8.Garden Scape – PEAT HUMUS – Decomposed Organic … - 1 cubic foot
9.Garden Scape – COW MANURE – will not burn – 1 cubic foot
10.Organic Valley – HUMUS – ready to use – 1 cubic foot
11.Organic Valley – COW MANURE PLUS ORGANIC COMPOST – Ready to use – 1 cubic foot
12.Organic Valley – ORGANIC COMPOST PLUS MANURE – Compost & manure – 1 cubic foot
13.Garick – MOO NURE – Organic Compost with Cow Manure – 1 cubic foot
14.Country Stone – COMPOSTED COW MANURE – Soil conditioner – 1 cubic foot
15.Earth Gro – ORGANIC HUMUS AND MANURE – Soil amendment – 1 cubic foot

Thanks & Regards
Ganesh


In detail (if you are still reading this post ;-) ) Assuming the
product is what the cover says.

1.Mother Nature's – SWEET PEET – Composted soil conditioner – 1 cubic foot
Organic material made from wood shavings, farm manure & plant fibers (USCC)

2.Nea's – POSY POWER – Powerful soil booster – 1 cubic foot
All Organic: Horse manure, sphagnum Peat, Brewer's Grain, Gypsum & lime
0.7% 0.45% 1.0%

3.Premier Horticulture – PRO MIX – Growing mix – 1 cubic foot
Compost Enrich (from shrimp, seaweed, softwood bark), Microrise inside, Sphagnum Peat Moss, Peat Humus (OMRI)

4.Nature's Helper – MUSHROOM COMPOST – Organic soil – 1 cubic foot

5.Garden Magic – COMPOST AND MANURE – Peat & Manure – 1 cubic foot
Reed sedge Peat, Manure
0.1% 0.1% 0.1%

6.Ace – COMPOSTED MANURE – Loosens soil – 1 cubic foot
0.5% 0.5% 0.5%

7.New Plant Life – MUSHROOM COMPOST SOIL – Soil amendment - 1 cubic foot

8.Garden Scape – PEAT HUMUS – Decomposed Organic … - 1 cubic foot
A decomposed organic forest peat fiber

9.Garden Scape – COW MANURE – will not burn – 1 cubic foot
1% 1% 1%

10.Organic Valley – HUMUS – ready to use – 1 cubic foot

11.Organic Valley – COW MANURE PLUS ORGANIC COMPOST – Ready to use – 1 cubic foot
0.05% 0.05% 0.05% (USCC)

12.Organic Valley – ORGANIC COMPOST PLUS MANURE – Compost & manure – 1 cubic foot
0.05% 0.05% 0.05%

13.Garick – MOO NURE – Organic Compost with Cow Manure – 1 cubic foot
0.2% 0.2% 0.2% (USCC)

14.Country Stone – COMPOSTED COW MANURE – Soil conditioner – 1 cubic foot
Cow manure, Peat and Humus
0.05% 0.05% 0.05%

15.Earth Gro – ORGANIC HUMUS AND MANURE – Soil amendment – 1 cubic foot
90% organic humus (peat, compost, forest products) and 10% manure
0.05% 0.05% 0.05%


Follow-Up Postings:

 o
RE: Request for comments

That's a lot to process, but have you tried calling landscape supply companies? They usually stock compost or other top soils and sell by the half or cubic yard. It sure would make the whole thing a lot easier.


 o
RE: Request for comments

  • Posted by tapla z5b-6a MI (My Page) on
    Fri, Mar 27, 09 at 19:23

I think this mix will be extremely water-retentive (like mush). WHY do you feel you need so many different ingredients? Are the boxes resting on the ground (soil)? What are you using as a Ca source?

Al


 o
RE: Request for comments

I think I didn't understand the MEL's mix the way its actual intention is.

Based on the book 'square foot gardening' by 'mel bartholomew' (www.squarefootgardening.com) MEL's mix is:
1/3 Peat Moss
1/3 Coarse Vermiculite
1/3 Compost (from Various sources)

Whenever I visited a garden store in the search of 'COMPOST'- I Just bought one bag of whatever is available with them. (to ensure various sources)

The boxes are sitting on the ground just on top of weed protector cloth.

Thanks
Ganesh


 o
RE: Request for comments

I think I understand what you are doing Ganesh. I do kind of the same thing with horse feed. I buy one bag, bring it home and study the label and the feed to see if it may be what I want, things seldom are, lol.

I think you are doing the best with what you have but are looking to improve, yes?

I would say to look for old leaves from neighbors or landscapers, and a local stable for additional ingredieants for your beds/compost pile.


 o
RE: Request for comments

Ganesh, The term "various sources" means that you want compost that is created from different things, such as: mushroom compost (based on mushrooms as the main ingredient), then cow compost (based on cow manure as the main ingredient). Mel suggests that you use five different types of compost.

In my first SFG, I used mushroom, horse, cow and some homemade compost. I firmly believe homemade is the best because you add so many different ingredients. I've added both kangaroo and chicken manure to my compost barrel, along with horse poo (from horses riding down the street).


 o Post a Follow-Up

Please Note: Only registered members are able to post messages to this forum.

    If you are a member, please log in.

    If you aren't yet a member, join now!


Return to the Square Foot Gardening Forum

Information about Posting

  • You must be logged in to post a message. Once you are logged in, a posting window will appear at the bottom of the messages. If you are not a member, please register for an account.
  • Posting is a two-step process. Once you have composed your message, you will be taken to the preview page. You will then have a chance to review your post, make changes and upload photos.
  • After posting your message, you may need to refresh the forum page in order to see it.
  • Before posting copyrighted material, please read about Copyright and Fair Use.
  • We have a strict no-advertising policy!
  • If you would like to practice posting or uploading photos, please visit our Test forum.
  • If you need assistance, please Contact Us and we will be happy to help.


Learn more about in-text links on this page here