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OT: where am I?

Posted by angelady 7 - TX (My Page) on
Thu, Oct 9, 08 at 13:48

Where, oh where, has my sweet angel gone, oh where, oh where, can she be? LOL

Medo found me.... thanks, Medo!.... I sure was lost...

I actually have been very caught up with seed trading since I returned... I have to get some of them now, in the fall, or I won't have a flower garden or berry bushes come spring.

It's also been a way for me to relax. I was heading into depression to be quite honest, and the hobby of seed trading has really helped me.

I don't think I can catch up with all the posts that I've missed, so I'm gonna start over. I SURE HAVE missed my SFG buddies!

Blessings,
Angela


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WELL IT'S ABOUT TIME, YOUNG LADY!!!!


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Awwwwwwwwwww.... please don't slap me too hard... I missed you BUNCHES, Granny! (((HUGS)))

Blessings,
Angela


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We have missed you SO much Angela!


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How's our little Hannah?

Granny


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Thanks for the warm welcome back. Hannah is having some more problems with the old scar area from her surgery... one of the reasons I've been so depressed.... we'll work through it, though.

On a brighter note, she just started tennis. It doesn't take too much running really. We're having her take her leg off every day after school and on weekends until the area heals on her leg. She's only on her second day of tennis.

Yes, I'm really worried as her momma should be. But, I'm tired of always telling her no to everything at the same time. If her leg doesn't get better by tuesday (she does it 2 days a week), then I'll probably have to have her sit out until she's better.

We may be looking at yet another trip to Dallas before December.... uggggh...

Anyone with brighter news? Granny, are you in AZ?

Blessings,
Angela


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yes, we have been waiting for that....geez angela!! LOL **grinn** hey!! i'm good at SOME things!! LOL
hey angela, guess what we canned 11 1/2 pnts of apple butter! it was so awesome! it was our first time canning!! probably tonight or tomarow we are gonna get on them tomato's :')


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Angela, we're still waiting for that grandbaby to be born, so haven't left for AZ yet. I'm trying to get the garden put to bed for the winter, got a light but not killing frost last night. The pole beans have probably a half dozen beans, with no chance for more to mature, so I think I'll just pull them all out and compost them today or tomorrow. I hate to pull up anything else right now, guess I'll just wait and see if it all freezes this week.

Poor little Hannah. I know God has a reason, but it's hard to figure out just what it is when our little ones are hurting. Hang in there, sweetie, you know we're all holding you in our hearts and praying for the day Hannah is pain free.

Granny


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ohhh Angela, just email me!! i'm always here, literally!! my email is always open!! LOL
i would rather listen to someone elses problems and i may have an idea!! than listen to my own!! LOL
i always have some thing or another going on, but ya know, i just don't want to always tell. its kinda like those things with the "old people" how they say they always talk about their aches and pains, or complaints. LOL and that's it, and every once in a while, you'll find the one gem that is a fresh breeze that is the sweetest ol lady and hardly ever say's a mean thing or ol man that you'd think never say's anything cross!! LOL
i want to be that person!! LOL don't let depression take you!!
ya know mom, us kids, we are just amazing!! LOL **grinn** ~Medo


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Medo - Wow! You're officially "cool" now... you're canning apple butter and almost them tomatoes, too! WooHoooo! I'm not quite cool myself as I have nothing to can yet!!!! It won't be long with all these seeds I have coming in, though! The only thing that trips me out is that I am gone a whole lot in the summer... it's kind of hard to have gardens when you're half-way across the country! I'm planting grapes, blueberries, etc... I can't NOT have them fresh off the vine/bush.... KWIM?

Granny - Oh, wow! You have a late grandbaby, huh? I sure would hang out as long as that took, that's for sure! How exciting... As for the green beans, with just so few, maybe leave them on the vine until they're completely dried up, then save the seeds in them to plant next season?

Thanks for the support and prayers for my Hannah. God does know what He's doing... I am still holding out for the miracle He promised me! I have to get myself right spiritually, though, before He can use me in that big of a way. I know... as silly as it sounds right now feeling the way I do... that she will be healed and made whole... I just know with everything in me that God spoke that to me... We'll hang in until that happens!

Medo - I know what a bummer it can be hanging out with negative people... maybe that's why when I'm down that I don't talk to anyone... not sure why exactly... I kind of go into my shell... I haven't spoken to my dad in awhile, my best friend (which is really rare)... I hardly leave the house... poor Steve is the one getting up with the kiddos to get them off to school so I can sleep in... He's so wonderful putting up with me like this... not sure why God blessed me with Him and these babies, but He did, so He must have thought I could handle it...

ANYWAYS.... LOL... enough of that... I'm smiling again and happy to be back with you all.

Blessings,
Angela


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he blessed you with steve because steve can handle being with a person who has depression from time to time. that's a great thing!! my hubs can't handle it. not exactly. he does for a while then all he** breaks loose. i have to straighten up and fly right. i think that's why he pushes so hard to put me along with the kids to be on that crazy schedual like the prison. i buck it all the time and my funky attitude comes out. but truely, i wouldn't know what to do witho ut him!! he is my human savior. LOL i looked into what you sent me, a friend said if i copy and paste i'm ok, and everyone else is. so is it ok to send you stuff?? i did a few cute one's. that's another thing that keeps me going and not hitting rock bottom sometimes, i keep myself surrounded by christian friends, and onery friends and then i have my run of the mill "normal" what ever that is friends!! LOL oh the funny ones, when they go thru tough times they will let me know and i listen, Lord i hope if i have tough times i have someone that will listen, although i wish i could just send a letter out with no return email!! LOL for whoever to read, so i wouldn;t have to feel wierd LOL ~Medo who likes to be known as the person with no problems and happy!! WOOOO HOOOO!!! Hee Hee only if!! **grinn**


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I think Medo has the right of it Angela. Steve sounds like a good guy, and he is priviledged to have you. I have the occasional struggle with depression, most of mine is chemical, though, lol. I'm extremely anemic, so if I even miss a day of that iron supplement...man, it gets hard out here. Would it be possible to pull Hannah back before you pull her out? I mean, could you have her try it once a week instead? I don't know anything about this. I'm sure Hannah is going to be fine, though. She has an amazing life ahead of her. Today you're worried about her leg, next week you'll be worried about her choosing a college that's far away. I keep seeing how fast this parenting thing seems to go.


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no doubt!! i keep doing this with mine!! they just grow up to fast!! one day they are 3 then 7 then 12. then they are married and having their first baby and your wondering when you fell asleep!! my mom's words. she worried about me all the time, with all the things that happend to me with gy\uys. so i know. then it was the seizures. for her it was one thing after another. then the bipolar thing came in. she was really worried, i told her, i'm not gonna chop my family up. geeze give me more credit than that!! so for her i was/am a big worry. so angela, that little one is never gonna stop worrying you!! LOL you just gotta trust HER!! LOL `and of course you!! LOL **giggle** and of course you and i naturally worry about everything under the sun, hmmm probably above it too!! LOL **grinn** ~Medo


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I didn't know you struggled with depression, Carolyn. I honestly have no idea if mine is chemical, but I don't think it is. I think it's just the stuff that everyone goes through sometimes and has to pull themselves up out of. Maybe that's simplifying it too much, though? LOL

Yes, I sure am blessed. He is a great guy. God knew what He was doing putting the two of us together, that's for sure. I don't think anyone else would put up with him and vice/versa... hahahaha... Isn't that the definition of marriage, which two people can put up with each other for life and still love each other? hee hee

So, any new changes in you guys' gardens?

I have cut my "cut and come again" lettuce mix! YUMMY salad that made... not sure if I killed most of my greens, though as most of them look like they're dying on me! Maybe I cut them too close to the ground? Maybe I should have left at least one leaf per plant? LOL

I also am still waiting on my 'lopes. They were sure looking good, then all of a sudden, the leaves seemed to shrink by about 50% at least... Now I can see the ground through the leaves and the melons within where before I couldn't see through the dense forest of leaves they created. I'm just letting them sprawl... not sure what has happened, if anything... the cantaloupes are still looking great, so I'm going with it... :-)

Tomatoes, well, I barely still have 3 containers with tomatoes (when I planted about 30), but boy, those suckers are the best 'maters of them all if they can survive momma being away and daddy not watering 'em! LOL

My beans are just a waste of my time so far, I think! They taste yummy... well, the one bean I ate did! I am not usually a raw bean eater, but this sucker was GOOD! I didn't know it would be, but with just one bean to pluck, you gotta try to eat it raw, right? LOL... well, I have maybe 6 beans that are tiny on it now... that still ain't no pot of green beans... not sure how many plants you need to feed a family of six... maybe I should do more research, huh? hahahaha

And my poor, poor squash.... I know they must not be happy about me leaving them in 4" pots for months that they had way over-grown while I was trying to slowly transplant them all into the 2 gallon containers... got a whole MESS of them squash plants.... 3 different winter varieties... and just today I finally saw a female blossom on one plant.... all the others have big beautiful male blossoms everywhere, but no females... I sure hope they get over the transplant shock before the end of the year here... grief! December 31st is practically knocking down our doors! (LOL) Or, maybe I'm just still a bit impatient, huh? I don't know.....

Blessings,
Angela


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You know, I was about to get myself all offended that EG didn't stop in and say hi to me also... but, I skimmed the other OT post real quick and noticed the last thing EG said (four days ago) was, "I think i'm gonna build something to impale myself with......... " LOL

Do you think that's what he did? Maybe we got to him with all the "girl" talk? Poor guy... having to put up with us! hee hee

Blessings,
Angela


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ya, its the "NICE" stuff!! LOL i think he's been all busy building things for the 4=h thing i think. i'll have to email himm and let him know we're being normal again!! LOL are we?? LOL ** quizicall look** ~Medo


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I'm not sure we're capable of the normal thing (or that I know what it looks like.)
I saw a study that showed that nearly forty percent of women deal with some form of depression. I think you should just tell your doctor and let him do blood work. The results might surprise you. I didn't tell anyone and one day my heart started racing so badly that I couldn't sleep for a few days. When they did the blood work, I guess under twenty is anemic. I tested four on the first one and six on the second one. He said if I were pregnant, they'd be checking me in. There is such a world of difference between when I take the iron and when I don't. It's worth checking out because if it's just a nutrition thing, won't that be an easy fix? I like easy fixes.
I'm trying to have a Sinfonian day, lol. I have to mulch a chunk of the front yard so I can put boxes there next year. Carolyn drives her neighbors crazy, take one.


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I hope EG didn't get upset when I told him to go stick his head in his seed starter box . I only meant to get him out of the line of fire during our "labor talks"! His daughter is in the hospital, so that is one thing that has kept him away, but if he doesn't get back here soon we'll have to go find him and drag him back!

Laura has been MIA for a long time, too.

Angela, my garden has been mostly put to bed. I pulled out the last of the green beans a couple days ago, before they even got more than a handful of beans on them. They were the late planted pole beans, and blooming like crazy, but no chance of maturing before we leave for AZ so I wanted to get that bed cleaned up and ready for its fall application of soil amendments. They were from some really old leftover seeds, so no $$ lost, and I enjoyed the looks of the tepee so no regrets. Besides, we were really sick of eating green beans (from the bush beans) nearly every day!

My cut-and-come-again garden is going great guns yet. I cut pretty short and get all of the leaves, but I only cut about 1/6 of the plot at a time, so it has a lot of time to grow between cuttings. The spinach/lettuce/carrot bed is also producing (not carrots, they were planted too late...they will be bunny greens). I still have marigolds, pansies, basil, rosemary, chives and parsley, but that bed will probably freeze tonight. I did gather a lot of marigold seeds to save, as two of the four varieties I grew were so very pretty. All were from volunteers I'd moved from my front yard, but they were twice the size being planted in that rich compost! We covered both of the greens beds last night, but still didn't get the hard freeze that was predicted. Oh, I do have two summer squash plants still, but the squash on them are tiny and don't look like they are going to get any larger. I don't know, after the cold spell this week, it's supposed to get warm again. I gave all my green tomatoes to the neighbor, she made relish from them. I have quite a few ripe ones that will become juice or sauce today.

Still no baby here, so Mr. H has lost the birth date pool (he guessed the 10th). She's actually not due until the 16th. Little Alicyn Paige will come when she's darned good and ready!

Granny

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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Hey granny, do you have a feel for how many green beans you need for a family of four? We love green beans (you know about the hubby, : (, and his love of canned...) I had eight pole bean plants in a pot, and it wasn't nearly enough. I was hoping to have a bunch leftover for the winter. Angela was wondering above about how many plants you need for a family of six. I've had some trouble doing that kind of research because it's so sketchy. You have to know an average of how many beans per plant and how much your family can ingest. I'm tiny, but I can eat an entire pot of green beans cooked with bacon in a single sitting, rofl. I'm going to grow the scarlet runners next year, so maybe that will make it better. I would love to have a thread on how many of each kind of plant per person in your family. Errr....maybe I'll do just that.


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Carolyn, mine were bush beans, and I planted 12 squares @ 4 per square. The first couple of pickings were rather small, enough for two, but when they got going I'd pick a large bread bag full. The thing is, they took up a lot of space and they don't give large yields for any great length of time so you have to plant a new patch every 3-4 weeks. Pole beans, on the other hand, will bear from summer until frost, but smaller amounts per picking. I didn't grow them this year (I did, but too late for a crop) so I can't tell you how many, but from what I've seen from others it looks as though 20 plants for a family of four is about right. As much as you like them, I think I'd double that.

I'm going to plant my pole beans in a 5' long double row against a chain link fence next year, and I'm also planting bush beans (probably 8 squares, but not all bunched up...a single row of 4 squares right at the front edge of each of two beds). I have discovered (thanks to reading GardenWeb)that when the bush beans slow down and stop bearing, you can cut them back to the second node and they will go through another cycle...it works! That means you really don't have to tie up half the garden with multiple plantings. I'll probably do half of my eight squares, then plant the other eight 3-4 weeks later...that should give me a constant yield, with plenty for freezing. Sinfonian can probably tell you more about what yields to expect, I think he kept track of his.

Granny

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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Medo - I don't think I'd quite call us as being normal? ROFL.... like ever.... hahahaha

Carolyn - Wow! *she says as she goes to grab the bottle of her iron supplement* I like quick fixes, too... I'll let you know if it works! It sure can't hurt!

Granny - Oh, my! I didn't know his daughter was in the hospital... I hope she is okay...

As for the green beans, bush outproduce pole? I didn't know that. I thought it was the opposite, or am I misunderstanding what you're saying? I still don't see even a bloom on my pole beans. The only bean I've eaten came from one of my only two bush plants. I had planned on planting pole beans along my whole back fence in the spring, but I may not do that now....

As for your herb garden, I'd be throwing some cages on the corners and pulling out blankies to cover them until I'm ready to leave for AZ. You know with that new baby coming that you won't want to leave RIGHT after she's born.... :-)

Blessings,
Angela


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That's very good info, Granny! I planted 8 per square foot of my pole beans. I think I got 7 of them to come up, but I will double-check that. 12 squares, huh? I will try it that way. I like the idea of getting a bread bag full of them time and time again!

As for the bush beans, what great info about cutting them back to the second node... UNREAL! I'm so glad you told me about that!

Blessings,
Angela


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well that does make sense!! they tell ya to cut back flowers and they will bloom again. Hmmm...foods doo have to bloom first!! LOL what a dope!!! LOL

i also didn't know his daughter was in the hospital. whats going on? i hope she's ok. i mean nothing real drastic. well, you know what i mean!! DANG!!!!

i pulled all of the green tomatoes out of the garden, then found out i don't have enough of the lemon juice to accomodate what i need. i refuse to use the vinagare. GROSS me out!! i only like that for CERTAIN thangs!! LOL and it aint foods!! LOL only healing properties!! i have a 5 gal bucket full. now i'm just slightly irritated. but all is well. i'm sure.

i am out of flour again. so no bread. this is not good. i do not like store bread. its just to perfect. and something could happen to us from it. ya, thats my story and i'm sticking to it. yep!! LOL

now if i could figure a way to get this magic finger to work like samantha's on bweitched!! i'd have it made!! LOL

ohhhh, talla woke up this mmorning. it seems that them dang skeeters had a feast on her legs last night. i was so sad to see that. she can be as clean as ever but they just will go thru whatever i put on her. i can't wait till the first freeze for them to be gone!! also 1 good thing, she started reading the 1st k12 book today, i am so thrilled. hubs told me she was reading. so i thought well, why not try, so we skipped the phonics lessons, and went right to the reading part. ~Medo


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Angela, bush beans produce a bigger crop all at once over a shorter period of time. Pole beans produce fewer beans at once, but keep producing all season. Think of strawberries...June bearing bear a huge crop all at once and quit, day neutral bear all summer, but not so many berries at a time. But I'm thinking if you cut the bush beans back and they produce a new crop, then two plantings of bush beans (2-3 weeks apart) then you'd have a constant supply of beans. The bush beans have fewer disease problems. The pole beans, in my opinion, are easier to see and pick. I guess it's all a matter of preference. I checked what Crockett said in his Victory Garden. He preferred bush over pole and said they outproduced. You know, I added fertilizer to my bed when I planted my bush beans, and they got huge and way too much foliage what with the new compost I'd built the beds with. I really think I'd have had a greater harvest without the added fertilizer/nitrogen. I did the same with the pole beans, and they grew terribly thick...I couldn't even see the few beans on them until I'd pulled the vines out. I have another little patch of them (leftover seed) growing up the chain link, no extra fertilizer, and they don't have so darned many leaves....I can actually see the blossoms. Since I'm amending my soil with manure and peat this winter, I don't think I'll add anything to it next spring (unless something looks sick).

Granny

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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so if i want to get alot of strawberries for canning and such, what do i get?? and freezing? and don't forget little miss fairy helper who eats them all. so i have to plant more just to keep some for us!! LOL ~Medo


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Medo - If you want a bunch all at once for canning and freezing, go for the June bearing. They give one large crop in early summer, then don't bear for the rest of the year.

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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Well, i'm back. Sorry.....I'm really concerned for my daughter's well being right now. She isn't doing too well. A year and a half ago, she had a lap band installed, with very few complications. Of course she lost alot of weight, and looks great. Anyway, apparently she got some kind of virus last weekend, and because of all the "hurling", her esophagus is swollen completely closed. She went into the hospital on Sunday, and I only found out she was in there on Wednesday, when she called me herself. Other people had instructions to let me know, but failed to even bother to tell me.....Oh well, i'm sure those guilty will smoke a turd in hell for that one. Anyway, needless to say, I really don't feel like cutting up too much right now, and have also been busy with the blog. Angela, i'm glad that you're back, and doing ok. EG


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Medo - LOL! That's the way I feel about most groceries, not just bread! About your daughter, that's wild that she's skipping phonics and going straight to reading! That has to be unusual and pretty awesome.

Granny - Thanks so much for extra info on green beans. It really helps me. I agree that it sounds like you need to leave the amended soil for next time. I bet they grow wonderfully! It's especially interesting to hear what that fella said that wrote that book. I'm excited about less disease, so I may be growing many more bush beans and cutting them at the second node like you said.

On strawberries, can you take them out of the bed that they're in after they produce the big crop (June-bearers) and them still be replanted for next season and do well?

Blessings,
Angela


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dang EG i believe in lots of things!! including KARMA!!
i definately will pray for your daughter. i don't even need to know her name, its weird sometimes people will say they need to be prayed for and leave all their info, i'm like dude, you don't need that, GOD knows exactly who you are!! and who we are thinking about!! although i do try a little harder, than just a thought, LOL
it does make me mad when i'm the last to know something. like when my dad had a heart attack, even though i couldnt get to the place, still i wanted to know, he's my dad. i may not have been raised with him. but still. and i never said anything. that's just the way i am with family though. unless it comes to my babies, then all he** is gonna break loose!! LOL
it does with my step dad, and he's no small man, that's for sure, he scares the he** out of alot of people. even the hubs. but my babes are another story.

ya talla was all happy, telling daddy, look daddy i can read, i read 3 pages, so he asks, what does it say?
she say's i dunno. **bustin up** i'm telling her, well sweetie, ya better get back to studying them words you just learned. LOL she's just funny!! LOL
ohhh and i found out i have a triple yellow datura!! wooo hooo!! now i'm watching another one to see what it is, none of them are what the seed package said they were!! so its been interesting!! LOL

EG its nice to see you back!! even for a few. i'll keep you and yours in our prayers!! please keep us updated on how she is.
~Medo


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Angela, you just leave the strawberries in that bed year round. You can keep the runners cut off for big berries, or you can let them mat for lots of berries but not as large. They don't need to be replaced until they slow down in production, and can be replaced with their own runners, so no more $$ spent.

If you'd like me to send you the instructions from Crockett's book, email me at anniebloom1 at gmail dot com and I'll scan the chapter for you.

EG, still praying your daughter comes out of this alright. I can imagine you are extremely worried, and I don't blame you. Hang in there, old buddy!

Granny

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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EG - I am so sorry for not seeing your post sooner. We must have posted about the same time so I didn't see it until now even though it shows up right before mine. I am certainly praying for your daughter. What ashame that noone told daddy sooner... good grief... that's just a duh! The first call should have been to parents.... Anyways, our thoughts and prayers are with your baby girl...

Blessings,
Angela


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Medo - Okay, I'm really feeling stupid again on this... I think I was finally starting to get what single and double meant, but triple? I never heard of triple datura or triple anything... how do you know what single, double, triple, etc... is? (LOL) As for them not being what the seed packet said, is that because they were gotten in trade? Also, from what I understand, it could be that they don't come true from seed, so the seed packet could have been what the parent plant was, right?

Granny - Thanks for offering to email me more info. That's great! I was just concerned about strawberries taking up one whole bed year-round, but producing just one harvest per year. One lady I may be trading with has offered to dig up her extra strawberry plants and send them to me. I guess they were the runners from the original plant this season. Anyways, I wanted to know if I really want these kind of strawberries or not. Some things will stay viable when replanted if they went dormant in the fall before you pulled them up. But, since I don't know what I'm doing yet, I probably shouldn't try any of those advanced things yet! LOL

Blessings,
Angela


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Angela, grab those plants! If the runners are set in this fall you will get a good crop in the spring and not have to worry about snipping off the blossoms, just let them do their thing! Do find out if they are June bearing, everbearing or day neutral. I'm going to plant two day neutral varieties that ripen at different times, so I should get a small constant crop all summer.

Strawberry runners don't have to be dormant to plant/transplant. They are very hardy. Just do not plant too shallow or too deep! I grab the crown in my fingers and hold no to it while I'm planting, so it doesn't get buried in soil, and I firm the dirt around the plant before I let go of that crown....yet I make sure the dirt packs right up to my fingers. If the crown gets buried it will rot, if it sticks up too high it will dry out and die. I sent the scanned pages to you that give a picture of the proper depth.

If she sends dormant plants they will look dead...plant them anyway, they will sprout lovely new leaves in the spring.

Granny

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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EG: I'll be praying for your daughter! My dad had esophagal surgery a couple years ago, it was rough, but he got through it. Will be praying you guys up!!

Thanks for all the info granny. Do you have a special place to get plants? Didn't someone list a place to get seeds that's here in Oregon? Can you remind me what it is?


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I buy Ed Hume seeds off the seed racks here...not too expensive and I've had good luck with them. There is also a link to retail stores that carry the seeds...Fred Meyer is one, there are lots of others here:

http://www.humeseeds.com/retail.htm

Here is a link that might be useful: Ed Hume Seed Rack


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Granny - That's some great info. The lady who has the strawberries said they were June-bearing. I was kind of thinking about going with the day neutral like you're going to do for the same reasons you are. If they're going to take up a bed year-round, producing four times a year sounds great! I am still thinking about whether or not I really want to get her June-bearers or if I should just get the ones I really want, the day neutrals.

Blessings,
Angela


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Angela, could you put her plants in a decorative container? The June bearers look pretty cascading out of a strawberry pot...or a barrel with holes drilled around the sides randomly, like in the photo I mailed you. How about growing them vertically in a strawberry tower? That would be a length of drainage pipe or sewer pipe with holes drilled in it. Can you edge flower bed with them? Can you send them to Granny? LOL!!!

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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Thanks, Granny, Medo, Angela, and Carolyn, and others. I talked to her today, they had her highly sedated and still - no change......The worst part is....her mother hasn't even been to see her! Can you believe that? We both live the same distance away from the hospital.....unbelievable.

I'll try to jump into the current discussion, and say that I've often thought about growing strawberries - but aren't they alot of work to maintain? Something about "turning the plants over each year", so you can deal with the runners? I must admit, I know absolutely nothing about them, other than the fact that my grandpaw had tons, when I was a little boy!

It appears that the posting on all forums is starting to slow down for the year.....that's a shame. Oh well, it's to be expected I guess....i'm sure the growing season is over for the year, for alot of people. But, I still feel that there are hundreds of people that just read, but not post....Can you imagine how it would be if everyone posted or chimed in on other's posts? It would be fantastic!

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Granny - Girl, you convinced me! I can find a way to put them here and if not, I can send them to you!

EG - You ain't kidding! I've gotten a couple emails from people who have just read our posts here, so I know some simply just read. It definitely is a great place to get info... and perhaps we're getting famous and didn't even know it? I can see "The famous EG" up in lights all over the internet someday... :-)

As for strawberries... hmmm... so far my research has shown me that there is a little maintenance to keep runners off, if you get the running kind, and protection from birds eating them (except for the yummy yellow varieties).... you know, it kind of looks like, as long as you get disease resistant ones, you're pretty much fine. Am I wrong, Granny / Carolyn / others?

Blessings,
Angela


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By the way, EG, I thought about responding to the fact that her mother hasn't come to see her, but chose not to thinking that it sure wouldn't help how you already feel... but, I am still praying for her... I'm very glad you got to speak to her, but I do hope that they find a way for her to improve soon... Thanks for the update and please do continue to let us know whatever you know...

Blessings,
Angela


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Hey Eg, is it possible that no one has contacted her mother, either? I worked in politics as a kid and I would get so busy I wouldn't call my mom for a month or so. Maybe she just doesn't know yet. In any case, will definitely keep praying for her and you.


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Strawberries could be a lot of work...if that's what you want. But really, you could put them in at one or two to a foot and just let them mat and do their thing. When I grew them (and believe me, I'm NOT an expert when it comes to strawberries!) I let a four-foot wide row mat. After a couple of years, when they seemed to slow production, each spring I would remove a couple of strips (half) of the plants and recondition that bare soil and let new runners take over. The following year I'd remove two more strips of old plants...etc, etc. Easy, and the garden was renewing and getting fresh compost yearly. They don't root real deep, and with the loose friable soil we're using, bed renewal would be a cinch!

EG, I'm so sorry to hear your daughter hasn't improved. I wish we could all be there with you in person, for hugs and support.

I hope you guys don't retire from the forum when your gardens stop or slow down! We can at least keep the OT thread going. Angela, I also got an email from a man who said he always lurks. He said he agreed with the person who was upset about the "frivolity" on SFG, as he also just wanted serious answers. He felt it was a good idea to begin the OT thread for friendly discussion. I hope he doesn't care that I quote what he said..."Funny thing Annie, the first thing I click on now is OT. After reading these posts I feel that I am getting to know a few of you and do appreciate your skills and humor. Oh yes, I usually turn to your blog also." I wrote back and asked him to join us, but unfortunately he hasn't...

Granny

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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Granny - do you mark off the squares in a strawberry or just plant them in a row a foot apart?

EG - you are in our thoughts and prayers - it is not easy to deal with when your children are hurting. Hang in there!


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bettyinga, I'll plant them 2 per square foot like this (plant = berry picture) and let one runner take over each empty spot (X) (One small square = 6"). Normally I would let all the runners take over wherever they want, but I'm really going to try to keep all but one per plant cut off next year.

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Here is a link that might be useful: Granny's last garden blog of 2008


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EG is it possible that she don't have the cash or something like a ride to get there? ya know, just another possibility?
i just can't believe that she isn't there, unless of course that they never told her because they got the feeling that your daughter and her weren't close at all and that she wouldn't care. just a thougt.
i was thinking about using the last 55 gal drum for a strawberry tower. i think it'd be cool!! hmmm. i think i'd put some holes in the bottom. then some all around the sides. take out the top. THEN....put my "cage" inside.....fill it with hay or something. then on the outside put soil. then the strawberries. thinking about mixing it up. filling it halfway down. would that be about right. so the rest the runners would catch on??
ohhh did i mention putting strawberries on the top? i think i'll keep the labels in there too.

Angela the one's i'm talking about came from the cataloge place. i can't remember right off the bat who it was. i do know i like them!!! LOL i think i took a pic of them. triple datura's are longer and ohhh so pretty!! to bad they didn't have a smell!! (ya know, a good one!! LOL) if i find one i'll show ya!! LOL it is gonna be in my photobucket!
Granny you do have the best info!! WOO HOO!! you are just an angel!! i just hope that you know that!! **big smile**
~Medo


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I wish I could give better info on the strawberries, but I only have a single lone plant in the front. I stuck it in there when I first moved in and I haven't touched it since. I think I've watered it twice, lol. It produces a couple of nice sized fruit every year and this is the first year it's even attempted to shoot out runners.
I just ordered some scarlet runner seeds, lol. I'm dying to try them. I also want to try the purple bush beans, but burpees wants $7 for shipping, hello!


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Carolyn, I had terrible luck with my Burpee seeds this year, but if you want to buy Burpee you can probably get them at Wal*Mart. I'm quite sure that's where I found them.

Medo, here's a strawberry barrel...

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Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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Hey....I wanted to pop in and say hi to everyone. Thanks for the kind words. I talked to her today, and still no change.....the doctors are contemplating sending her to UAB hospital....that's where the best doctors are in Alabama.
I stopped bashing her mother several years ago, and won't do it now, either....However, I will state facts.
1. She was the first one to know that she was at the hospital.
2. Money is not a problem for her, because her assets total at least $1M. She has at least 10 different vehicles to choose from, if she decided to go to the hospital....This may not be alot of assets in some places in the US, but in Alabama - it's an assload......pardon my french.

As far as the emails from lurkers....I haven't received any. They must think i'm either weird, intimidating, or a stupid hillbilly. Regardless, I do what makes me happy. I create useful, and sometimes beautiful things with my hands and mind - hillbilly or not. Anyway, i'm gonna get off of here....I just wanted to say thanks to all of my gardening friends.

Jeff


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your very welcome!! and i hope you don't mind EG but i had to call in some prayer reinforcements on another friend, so i just added your daughter as well. i figure she needs all the prayers that she can get!! and i don't get emails either. :') so i think its my 3rd grade talk!! i'm very cool with that!! LOL i'm alot smarter than that!! believe me!!
Granny thanks for the pic!! that's pretty cool looking!! ~Medo


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Well, EG, Angela got "email(S)". I only got one, and I printed it out and stuck it on the refrigerator, 'cause it's probably the only one I'll ever get.

I'm having a horrid time trying to post tonight. I keep getting errors and can't get the pages to load. I think I'll have to unplug my modem and let it reset.

Granny

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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Eg - hopefully, the new doctors will figure what is going on. I'm really sorry about the Mom situation and you can only do your best - that's all anyone can ask. Sending prayers your way!

Granny, I love the strawberry barrel and thanks for the visual on strawberry planting - that helps me alot! I want to plant strawberries in the Spring for our grandbaby - who will turn two in January. She will be my gardening buddy next year.


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I have a grandson who is passionate about strawberries. I was growing them when he was just a toddler, and he wanted strawberries every time he came to Grandma's. He's ten now, and still wants me to plant strawberries. I'm actually thinking of doing two 4x8 beds next year...one with June bearing (for frozen berries and jam) and one with day neutral for fresh eating. I might end up moving that fence and adding more boxes yet!

Yesterday I moved my two blueberry bushes from their previous location to the garden. I put them in the two whiskey barrels I'd moved out there, between the berry beds. They look pretty next to the new cedar fence, especially when the sun casts their shadows on the wood, and I can really keep the soil more acidic there than where they were in the flower bed. I've already begun adding a mixture of coffee grounds and crushed egg shells to the compost and peat moss I planted them in. One of the bushes is looking sickly and didn't put much growth on this year, so I hope it does a turn-around in its new location.

Granny

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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That's a great idea about putting blueberries in whiskey planters. Another idea for me to ponder!!! I am already looking at a section of my flower bed which is across from my sfg area to be the project for the winter. I know my asparagus bed will be there so maybe blueberries could go there too - they are my favorite fruit. I am getting a little tired of flower gardening - I have had such a bad experience with weeds this year - my fault of course for not making time to get out there. Well, last week I had one free day so I weeded a huge section and this week, I am battling a bad case of poison ivy. I finally went to then doctor on Friday for cortisone treatment. So... my flower gardens may be getting smaller.

I want to thank you for the apple butter recipe you posted and helping me with the water bath process since I have no canning equipment. It all worked and I am so excited. I got 6 1/2 half pints of apple butter and they all sealed and they are beautiful!!! Not only does my house smell wonderful -- the apple butter is perfect. Many thanks!


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I'm so happy the apple butter turned out well! Next year I'll do more canning, this year everything was just too late to fool with.

Here is a photo I just took of the blueberries. You can see the one on the right is looking very spindly, and it may have to be replaced next year. They were in the garden with my cherry tomatoes, and that one got completely entwined in tomato vine, which did it no good. The box in the middle is for next year's raspberries, the posts are in place for the wires that will contain the plants and one of the birdhouses I built will sit atop the nearest post. The box to the left will be my strawberry bed. The box just barely visible to the right was going to be veggies, but now I'm thinking more strawberries. To the left, out of the picture is a mound of compost about 8" across. I'm not yet sure what will go there...I had planned on winter squash, but now I'm thinking the sweet potatoes I was going to put in the barrels until I did the blueberries instead. There would be plenty of room for them to sprawl, and there will be tall sunflowers behind them.

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Granny

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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Man that is gorgeous Granny!
EG: Still praying for you guys!!
I'm praying for you too Betty. Poison ivy is no fun!


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ohhh betty!! the poison ivy can be done with apple cider vinegar, if you put it on something, leave it on. trust me, don't take it off!! it'll burn!! its a natural antiseptic and a natural antibiotic. i kept mine on, and i kept changing my "pads" and in a few days the oozing had gone away. then i left it on one more day. it was gone. it didn't even leave a scar. i was really shocked. and thankful!! because it went from one part of my face to the other. diagonally. it sucked big time. i learned a huge lesson. don't dig up gooseberry bushes that are in thick woods!! LOL now, i laugh about it!! LOL ~Medo


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Granny - Thanks for sharing what that guy thought and then how he read OT... neat... Also, thanks again for the extra info on the strawberries. Plus, that pic... very nice strawberry barrel.

EG... Or, should I call you Jeff now that you revealed your name? :-) - Thanks for the update. I do hope they get her to the best hospital... it's blowing me away that they haven't figured out what to do for her yet. Lord, have mercy! I may have to scuh-daddle my hiny over there and give them some thoughts...

As for the emails, I got more because I'm the favorite of the lurkers... hahahahaha!!!!!!!! ROFL.... JUST KIDDING! hahahahaha.... that's funny, I don't care who you are!

Actually, I think it's because I'm such a needy soul, others must want to write to make me smile more often or something... So, you guys that are the most secure in yourself and your gardens... well, no reason to write you off list... hee hee

I'm done for the evening, so I'll catch up with the rest of the posts tomorrow... not feeling my best...

Blessings,
Angela


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Great photo - it's beautiful now but I can't wait to see it in the Spring full of plants. I really do like the blueberries in the half-barrels- you've got me thinking again!

Thanks for the prayers and Medo I wish I had know about the vinegar -- I would have drank the stuff if I thought it would cure me!!!


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Well, I went to visit this evening, and have nothing new to tell. Thanks for all of the prayers everyone. Even the lurkers. :)

EG


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i think there is enough yuckyness going around!! ok, whats up angela?? are ya still worried about that little one? ya know shes gonna be alright, we'll keep her in our prayers!! that them scar tissues heal or that GOD just does his work to make her transition into walking right. and as painless as possible. i haven't forgotten about hannah. i do think about her, i have been having things on this old lag bags mind!! LOL i'm worried about hubs spirituality, he doesn't go to church anymore. it wouldnt be a thing, it is his attitude that he has when i ask, and that he's fully awake. and he'd rather stay home and not do anything than spend one hour learning something about GOD. it only concerns me for the fact of i'm scared that his bad spirit might return, in order to understand that, you'd have to understand that when he was a teen him and a buddy messed with a homemade ouija board. and the shot glass flew accross the room when they were "done" and it busted on his turn. so that spirit has followed him ever since, and i've seen it in my dreams when we were living above my dads church, if i wasn't so christian it would have terrified me, but i've dealt with much scarier. but i have children now.
ok that being said, i do worry about him. is it that, or his thyroid? is he just being mean al the time because of the thyroid, or that thing? yep, i'm griping and complaining!! AGAIN!! sorry.
actually Betty, a friend drinks 2 oz of apple cider vinegar in her drink, what ever she chooses, most of the time its apple juice. she said. and its thru a straw. so she don't have to smell it! hee hee!!
i mix
1 prt apple cider vinegar
4 prt purple grape juice
4 prt apple juice
mix in jug. take 2 oz every morn, AFTER breakfast. keep refridgerated. its supposed to lower your cholesterol. i know it keeps me regulated. LOL if the jalapeno's don't!! Hee Hee
but the acv is great for your body!! i always feel great when i keep drinking this!! and have amazing energy!!

EG i just don't know what to say! you have a whole church plus my whole family praying for you and your daughter!! i guess we need to be praying that them docs find out what the heck is going on!! you'd think they would know! did she get bit by a mosquito? you know that dang virus is been a deadly one. it gives off the effect of the flu. are they transferring her did you say?

Granny i did see on one of those pbs stations, well we only get one!! Hee Hee that you put them blue berry bushes in a barrel, they grow better because you can control the acidity much better. that is what i need to do!! i wonder what size i could "get away" with? i have them 55 gal barrels that lester gave me that were cut into 1/3. so i think i have 2. and i want to grow 2 of the bushes that are for ks. i would like 3 bushes though!! LOL

hope ya'll have a great night ~Medo


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Medo, What did you see on one of those PBS stations? Blueberries in a whiskey barrel?

My bushes are quite old, so they don't get big at all. The root system wasn't deep, either. Lots of roots, but not a long tap root. I hope they take well to the transplanting. I think they look so pretty, I'm going to empty the flowers out of a third barrel and put it back in the fruit garden and buy another blueberry next year. I always had three, but lost one a couple of years ago. I'm afraid that other one is on its way out, too...but I'll give it another year to see if it perks up. Losing that third bush might be why I didn't get a crop this year...it may have been the pollinator. I wish I knew what variety these were so I'd be sure to get a different one. I did dig up the old tag, and thought I might be able to read the faded writing, but one of the puppies found it and chewed it up before I got back to it!

It looks like I'll be in WA for two more weeks. Daughter went to the doctor yesterday, and he said the baby is not cooperating at all and he doesn't expect her to deliver by her due date (tomorrow). So they've scheduled her to go in Monday to have labor induced, with an expected delivery on probably the 20th. Mr. H will press me to leave as soon as the baby's born, but I'm not budging!

Granny

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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yes. i sent you an email of the mix of what i saw, only it was not the pbs one. sorry, i couldn't find it. :'( ~Medo


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Thanks, got it! Good information.

Granny

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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Stick to your guns granny! Babies get big too fast!


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OK, I made our hotel reservations for the 26th, so the plan is to leave early that morning. The first day is an 8 hour drive, the second day around 10 hours, which puts us home in AZ around dinner time on the second day. I had to reserve a "pet room" for the menagerie so I couldn't wait much longer, as they aren't always available. I hope the puppies behave in the hotel room...I might end up staying with them while Mr. H eats and plays, or else we'll have to take turns!

Granny

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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ohhhh my!! a pet hotel room!! Hee Hee!! LOL now thats just a darned hoot!! LOL


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Medo, you'd be surprised how difficult it is to travel with pets. There is only one hotel between here and our AZ home where we can take the pets in, and this time of year it is freezing so we wouldn't leave them outside...not that I'd leave the puppies out anyway. The bunny was no problem, he has gone into many hotels inside my large purse, then resided in the bathroom where he couldn't do any damage. Rabbits don't make noise, so nobody knows he's there. He has also resided for several days in the back of the pickup (with canopy) in a parking garage, when the weather is temperate. Puppies can't do that, so our travels will be greatly restricted this year!

I just found out the lady who we could hire as a puppy sitter won't get to AZ until January. I'll really be ready for a vacation by then!

Granny

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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Well, at least now you know when the baby is coming! I'm so excited for you. I know it will be so hard to leave. Best wishes to ya'll!


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Alright...here's the latest. I am quite speechless, actually. The doctors in the Florence, Al. hospital know pretty much nothing about lap bands and/or complications associated with them - so, they have put in a phone call to the leading doctor in UAB hospital in Birmingham (great hospital), but the guy is on vacation.....He'll be back on Monday. Ain't that great? Again, i'd like to thank everyone for their support and prayers. It means alot to me.

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Oh, EG...that's terrible! Of course we're all praying for a full recovery for Brooke. Too bad the doctors can't speed it up a bit.

Granny

Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden


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Yikes EG! I hope it will all be fine, but wow, how hard this must be. I will be praying for you.


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OHHH EG!! i don't know what to say!! that's just wrong. ok, if she's not getting worse. then look at the bright side. at least these guys are smart enough not to try to do this or something themselves. so that's the upside. lets just pray that monday he can give ya some good news!! and its nice to know that she has a name.. everyone was wondering her name. i had nothing. LOL many hugs!! and many prayers and goood thoughts going to you and yours!! ~Medo


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Thanks, everybody....Yeah, her name is Lacey Brooke. She sent me a text message about an hour ago, and said her mother came by. I can hardly believe it.....Sheesh!

On another note, I think it's about time to start a new OT thread. This one's getting pretty big! Who wants the honor?

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I'm reading all the posts, even when I'm not responding by typing, I am thinking about you all and praying for you when needed, like EG's daughter needs especially right now.

As for worrying about the spirituality of others, well, all we can do is be an example and pray for them. I know in my home that it has made a world of difference when I get closer to the Lord... that's all we can do as it's their decision about their own walk...

As for spirits, those that call on Jesus name can kick the BUTT out of anything that isn't off God... try that and see! We made a nasty spirit leave our current home... most people would have called it a ghost. It scared the crap out me for a long time, our tenants (before we moved in the home ourselves, we had rented it) gave us some really scary stories, too, but regardless they HAVE to flee, but ONLY IN JESUS NAME). (Okay, now that everyone thinks I'm crazier than before, I'll change the subject...)

Hannah just finished her second week (2 days a week) of tennis. The scar on her leg is mostly healed except at the bottom, but it looks like it's going to turn into a callus... not sure if that's good or bad, but sounds good to me right now... I may still have to go to Dallas to get an adjustment on her prosthesis.

I can't blame you, Granny, for wanting to be there for a little bit after the baby is born. You keep standing your ground, girl!

Well, I gotta run for now, so I'll check back and try to finish reading the posts...

Blessings,
Angela


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I'm really glad her mom came by... that's all I'm gonna say on that...

Okay, who's gonna start the new thread? LOL

Blessings,
Angela


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Wow EG - how frustrating! Hopefully, Monday will get here fast and you will have some answers soon! Hang in there!


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