Not sure why photos are so big on page and not a link but need to stop doing this and just posting... (ie did years of fish rescue and wish people would read real books on the subject rather then ask "yahoo" (you know what I mean). I will post links in another post too long. Some of my photos when I had to sell my tanks, and rock sculptures (real rocks with "hang on back" type of structure - I have background in arts/arts chemistry and sculpture esp, along with biochemistry, and other sciences.) Here is link to source for those HUGE globes (found on canal street, NYC plastics store, went out of business, looked online for years, then saw a light lamp and realize what they are... ) All had filters, heaters hidden behind plant piles - water in one looks cloudy but was crystal clear - biobugs from environmental source (for huge ponds so on but biologist there sent me a sample)... The globe with Swords (sitting on chinese stand) these need anything with a small hole to sit on them) balance water when filling then stable. (put in place) There was ONE blue betta (only as I was giving them away) after I had four young blue betta sisters - from local breeder - - (heard my oops they often can live together) in that HUGE 75 and as they grew up https://www.flickr.com/photos/21430834@N02/sets/72157624858489949/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/21430834@N02/sets/72157626963975954/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/21430834@N02/sets/72157622020140334/with/3809651178/ ** (they are shipped in horrific conditions, many dead on arrival, with water treated with meds (already stressed) then put in cold bowls most die (I would be at petstore cleaning up their bowls and would be there when they arrive - as well fish are sorted out on tables overseas before being shipped) Pet trade has changed from 60's when most all grown locally in greenhouses - I raised fish and would take them in to stores myself. .............................................................................................. Here is some research from legit sources such as (books) zoology, and studies of fish, as well in their environment. (55 years background, pre vet/oceanography) and more, Health care (meaning I can study rx for fish (trickle down from people rx)...and much betta/fish rescue. Flickr photos of Bettas other (sculpted rock backgrounds) Great book - Bettas, with a special Chapter: Tanks for Bettas by Barron's Each species has very particular requirements, ph, temp, space and I am always stunned at how "advice" is given in online forums with most (not all) having no serious research or knowledge base (many great fish forums) - it's as if the blind are leading the blind and having rescued hundreds of betta's in NYC (about to be dumped down petstores toilet (illegal and cruel) I can attest to the end results. Please go to any libriary or amazon and get some books on the subject - or links below. Seasoned breeders, merchants in the business. As well, breeders keep young adult bettas in single bowls due to sheer volume and knowing most will be sold (Betta talk) but the rooms are heated, water changed many times a day and often with water conditioners in them... temporary housing. In native environments they are found in lakes, rivers, and always in heavily planted environments, even in the rice "paddies" of Japan (where I lived for 6 months) which are HUGE systems, with certain algae, mosses and other water plant forms (snails so on) growing in them, which is a great place for bettas. (until harvest time!) They entered into these systems from nearby rivers... Fish, including Bettas when stressed (not what YOU think is stressful but what is stressful to them)... produce/release stress hormones. Putting two males in a tank - or in the ones with dividers which create huge fighting responses (stress meaning the are constantly releasing adrenal/cortisol interior and the other exterior) (which say to other fish - stay away from me)...and eventually this as the toxins they are, poison them interior, weakening their immune system, and the water as well. As eileenaz states - goldfish (cold water fish) and tropicals (bettas air and water in native environment at leat 82 - although they are adaptable to 78 - air as well)... Goldfish as well need HUGE environments and although many falsely think a smaller enclosure creates smaller fish - in actuality their inner organs are stunted and misshapen causing pain and ill health for them. They are as well "dirty" fish meaning copious waste, and like to "mouth" the gravel (which is part of their manner of eating) stirring up debris. Bettas in the wild do not live in "tiny mudpuddles" (although there is ONE species that during dry spells lives in wet leaves and semi hibernate , some survive when the monsoon rains come, many do not - (many hundreds of types including some who "school"). In the wild the short tail is evident, the longer tail "gene" is bred for commercial purposes otherwise in the wild these fish being attacked and unable to escape another's territory fast would not make it. Guppies (their bodies are often betta size now) with their longer tails (if fancy) are often viewed by Betta's as another betta - as well guppies have slightly different water requirements. I had one female betta that was so agressive even in a 75 gallon, that she would attack cory catfish. The best community fish are those that are in their native environment. I have had huge bowls (see photos, actually lamps up to 50 gallon) with Anubias on wood in the center (small heater, filter hidden behind, spot led from ceiling) with a school of black neon tetras (not true tetras) and they got along fine - wish I had taken a photo. The round shape meant endless "room to roam" and fish could go in and out of planted area. Angela - Tiger Barbs (not a good choice at all - note on this site how many keep a few (2-3) stressed need bigger school and space more then five gallon. Why not just have lots of Anubias (same environment) which needs no soil, tied to wood, (conditions water for betta, make sure proper type) and one betta. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/tigerbbehf.htm http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Aquarium_Information.html As you can read here at this great site - many health issues, and not good choice with betta - even if provided places for "them to hide" (why live a life hiding when in proper environment they would be out schooling enjoying themselves, or when stressed nip at betta - All fish need space (read Desmond Morris (zoologist, artist and much more) It was he and his book on aberrant animal behavior at zoos (horrific then and some now still along with road side attractions, bears, tigers in small dirty cramped cages) Just as animals display aberrant behavior so do fish when in the wrong environment NOT seen in the wild. Schooling fish - one or two, three NEVER. These fish school for a reason (instincts) and in the wild these schools measure in the hundreds and thousands, catfish as well. They are ONE individual and should be thought of as one, or else they do suffer from stress. As well just because they are small does not mean they do well in smaller environments - I had 6 - 7 black neons in a 25 gallon. (globe with betta). The old myth one inch of fish for each gallon caused a lot of suffering for decades. I rescued a ten inch pacu once from local PxtLxxd, in NYC - he was in a ten gallon tank... found someone who took him for outdoor heated pond - yeah for him, but I first had to heal his scalded body from fungus as the staff would run a hose directly from the faucets into tanks burning the fish often!!! I have thousands of links - posting a few. (they do not come up in searches now due to placement money google so on). http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Aquarium_Information.html

Its www.texasfishingforum.com not associated with garden web. There is a group that posts on there who all live or fish Belton Lake. I almost titled the thread I let Prince Albert out of the can, lol. He said something about that in his original post. Guess he had to hear a lot of corny jokes growing up. Mary I remember the is your fridge running joke too, lol. It was a last minute visit so I could give him a couple of cuttings for his wife since I didn't go to the lake this weekend and we will be out of town next week. He brought me an orchid tree in trade. How cool is that. It goes to sleep at night and the leaves fold shut. I was outside with the flashlight last night checking it out, lol.

Awesome Kristy! Congrats!! You guys got some nice ones! Geez..first he sabotages your win, then he sabotages your plants, lol. Men, I tell ya! ..eerr sorry guys, lol. We were gonna hit the beach yesterday after the dentist..but I don't know what happened? Maybe it was cuz I was so cranky with the left half of my head numb, and then hurting, lol..that coulda been it. Can't wait to start goin. The lil one is finally old enough that I am comfortable taking her. The 9 year old still thinks all the advert signs that fly behind the planes going over the beach say "Do not go near the water without holding a grown-ups hand" lol. Gotta get that in the lil one's head too.

They are supposed to be splitting the cost of the site but nobody wants to talk about how the income will happen or get divided up. The current owner said he was making about $15 a day but didn't explain how or where the money comes from. John knows nothing about this kind of stuff. They gave the other guy administrator privileges and just gave him moderator on all topics and said they would teach him later about adminstator stuff. I also told him he had to have a contract drawn up and then the guy started crawfishing like well we could just let them try it for a while. How are you going to try running it for a while if you can't tell what kind of money is coming in and don't have full priviledges to the site. Hope he comes to his senses and just leaves things as they are. From what they said the cost to keep it up is $50 a month. Don't know if that each or total but that will buy a lot of plants, lol.