Thanks guys, That helps. Gives me a little confidence to try some different things. Hanz, So far I am happy with one exception and you can blame the "El Cheapo" streak running through me. I didn't use any fungicide and I am starting to see a little green on the top of the perlite. My container is way to big for the 10 seeds i sewed, so I try not to spray the green areas as much. The whole thing gets wet down really good once a week. Funny thing I noticed is that the sand (holds water) has no green stuff and the exposed perlite is where it's all at. Anyhow, so far it's not an issue. Is it too late to add fungicide? Any home remedies to make the "El Cheapo" in me calm down? I have no idea what superthrive is so I am going to google it and check it out. I'd love to try some seeds Hanz, that's really nice of you to offer! Oh one more thing its getting really hot here what kind of temps can these guys take, I'd like to put them outside in the shade. John

You guys are awesome! I think it is definitely a Madagascar plant. The flowers are very similar to diverticata, but there is nothing red in the plant and the sap is clear; also there isn't spacing between the leaves. I had another look at bulbillifera, because it fits with the flowers, bulbils and the look of the leaves, but mine forms stems of up to 50cm sofar. I had a close look a the stems and realised they were solitary, not branching, although they grow in clumps. I saw they can hybridise with others for example with arborescens, so why not with diverticata? Thanks to Rosemarie and Beachplants, Mani

"The only pure Aloe collectors tend to be all in Southern California" Wow, talk about ethnocentric! I bet there are gardeners in South Africa who'd take exception! It is an international Forum, after all, and many parts of the world have climates favorable to growing Aloes in ground. While it's easier, and requires less work/skill to grow large specimen plants in those areas, that doesn't mean they're the only place to grow impressive Aloes, nor the only places where decent growers/collectors exist. (Not sure what qualifies a grower as "pure" -- lol! Maybe you mean collector of pure species as opposed to hybrids.) Ever look at Cok & Ine Grootscholten's albums? They have a darned nice collection, and in a cool damp country that's closer to the Artic Circle that it is to So. Cal's latitude. There might not be a lot of statuesque tree Aloes, but with all those colorful beauties, most people wouldn't miss the giants! ...and by the way, there are myriad Aloes that have a mature size of a couple feet or less, well-suited to reach their full potential in pot culture. If you folks like the big ones, and you have the space and climate to grow them outdoors, good for you! Personally, I'd pick a nice little potted A. melanacantha over a thicket of A. ciliaris any day. It's a bit short-sighted to think the only "pure" Aloe collectors are folks who grow the plants you like the way you like. If you want to share some photos of it done your way though, folks, I'm sure the rest of us would thoroughly enjoy them. They might help get Larry Aloe-sated, too! --------------one of those defectors who checks back now & then

Thanks, Norma - Sorry I didn't give more information. The pot is 7" wide and 7" deep, although I plan to repot. There are really what looks like two plants side by side in the pot, but I'm guessing that the smaller of the two is an offset. There are several VERY small offsets as well. They are all showing a fan effect in their growth - leaves going out to the left and to the right, just opposite each other. The longest leaf (tenth from bottom of stack of 13 total) is 13-14" long, and its width at the base is 1.25". This makes the overall plant width 26-28". The smaller plant is about 17" wide, with a stack of ten leaves total. The top two leaves growing out of the larger plant are changing their direction, veering off from the straight fan structure. I don't know if this is due to the plant's maturing or to the fact that this larger plant is laying on its side, and the newer leaves perhaps reaching for the light. The teeth on the leaf edges are not super soft, but not hard enough to be prickles. The teeth are that pale green-white that the spots are. The leaf color is a kind of apple green, whitish at the base. I did look up Aloe suprafoliata, but the pictured plants looked quite a bit different from mine. It looks like a sturdier, stouter, more densely-stack plant, and the color was quite different. If all this info helps, that's great, but I plan to do what you suggest: just enjoy the plant. Actually, I only wanted to know the name so I could look up the care for it, especially the low temps and the heat/sun tolerance. I have most of my succulents out on the balcony (west-facing in Sacramento, CA) and sheltered from the cold, but the more delicate are indoors near the west window. The ones outdoors seem generally to do best if they stay out there all winter, being brought inside only when the temp gets below 32, but knowing nothing about this plant, I didn't like to risk it. Thanks for responding. Laura