Please spread the world.

Fed up citizen

Sinking the Spam

Lest you think I am mocking you, I did look up these sites, and while I do not unreservedly trust my government, I am not impressed by conspiracy theories backed by unsupported claims and "Star Trek" technobabble.

Firstly, none of the sites gives a plausible reason for these alleged assaults or experiments--why would "they" do this? Particularly since it causes drought?

No, documentation of these things would not be impossible, although, if the conspiracy is real, it would take considerable courage and guile to pull off. Once documented, however, there are inumerable public officials who would not be party to the conspiracy, and happy to get a political weapon against other officials, both bureaucratic and elected.

Yes, I do have a broad backing in natural science. These people have not shown any evidence that they know what they are talking about, except the Nova program, which doesn't attempt to blame contrails on any conspiracy.

Also, is this a fit topic for any gardening forum?

Not sheeple, but not buying it!
Kevin : /

I'm surprised to see something about chemtrails on this forum, and after doing some research I am also rather skeptical of the whole thing.

It would be interesting to go back and see when the worries about chemtrails started, and then you could look for evidence, or the lack of, for the effects this would have. To be suddenly worried about your gardening success this year because of some conspiracy theory that has been around for years seems strange.

Let me make clear that I am not hesitant to point out the many horrors our government is responsible for, and that we are all in some serious trouble because of the assault on our environment, but chemtrails is just too far fetched in my opinion.

(By the way, according to Wikipedia, the idea of chemtrail conspiracy came out way back in 1996!)

Anyway, it strikes me as insteresting that all of the things the conspiracy people are worried about: chemical substances found in places they shouldn't be, horizon to horizon clouds from airplane exhaust, greater trail activity over developed countries, health problems, and on and on... these are all very very real, and explained by the developed world's legacy of environmental destruction.

The real problems are not a conspiracy and many people don't seem to care... more than chemtrails I worry about all the CO2 coming from those thousands of jets passing overhead, the deadly spraying of pesticides, herbicides, and chemical fertilizers over our croplands, dangerous chemicals from our household trash leaching into groundwater, the tons of coal burned to allow people to leave their lights on all night, or to take hot showers for 20 minutes at a time. These are much more serious than the supposed chemtrails and worth worrying about and trying to change.

So why does it take a conspiracy theory to get people impassioned about the environment? I'm not sure, but I have seen many good things on this forum related to a more sustainable future that are very much worth talking about.

I hope this has not offended anyone, because I believe everyone is entitled to his or her ideas, my plea is simply that we pay attention to what IS happening too.

"Dude, the tinfoil is supposed to go SHINY SIDE OUT!"

When you make your protective tinfoil helmet, you're supposed to do so with the shiny side of the tinfoil facing out. This will allow it to fully reflect the ozone and other chemical residues.

It does a pretty good job of stopping the little voices as well.

Can we return to gardening now?

"United States America is the best place in the world to do business, because overthere you can poison people with dangerous food ingredients, particulate-emitting laser printers, chemtrails, etc. and if anyone complains, they are
branded as freaks."

My concern is lack of sunshine for the gardening. The trees that grew up with lots of sun, are now getting more clouds than ever. If you think my concern is wrong then I don't know what is right.