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gazania and vinca problems

jardinerowa
13 years ago

Haven't posted on gardenweb for a long time! It's good to read the posts again.

Anyway, I live in Mexicali which is near El Centro, CA...which is the hot desert climate...much like Phoenix except without the monsoon.

Last week I planted gazania and vinca in a window box. Of course it's over 100 degrees everyday but supposedly those guys like the heat. Three of the vincas are almost totally wilted and the gazania leaves look wilted. When a new flower comes out, it looks good for a day and then each petal of the flower curls up on each side (I don't mean the flower folds up at night, I know it is supposed to do that). What's worse is I'm using one of Walmarts self-watering containers which makes me feel like I have no idea if the dirt is too dry or too wet.

They get some shade during the day like all flowers appreciate in the desert summer so I don't know what's wrong. I read that if I water newly transplanted vincas too much, they can die. I also then for some reason that gazanias and summer vincas were drought tolerant. But according to deserttropicals.com, they both need adequate summer watering. So I'm kinda lost...any suggestions?

Oh and I just planted a banana and am excited about it taking off!

Comments (7)

  • lazy_gardens
    13 years ago

    Get a moisture meter and use it.

    Takes the guesswork out of watering.

  • nmgirl
    13 years ago

    These plants do need regular watering, especially if you have them in a planter of some sort. Anything in a planter will be more susceptible to heat and/or water stress.
    What kind of sun do they get? Morning? Afternoon? Gazania are more sun-loving than vinca. I'm in zone 8, we give vinca afternoon shade when it's in the ground.
    Neither of these plants are particular xeric (in my area) with vinca the lesser of the two. Personally I wouldn't plant these two together.
    This is also a tough time of the year to get planters established.
    Using a self-watering planter? You probably would benefit from a moisture meter.
    Hang in there, the plants may bounce out of their slump.

  • jakkom
    13 years ago

    Fall is the planting season for CA, not summer. Vinca will survive a planter with lots of water, but not gazania. The latter will do much better in the ground.

  • jardinerowa
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    I want to thank you all for your comments. I do have a moisture meter. The problem is, when you have new transplants, it is not that useful as the roots haven't adapted to their new home.

    In Phoenix gazanias, vincas, and portulaca are planted anytime including the hottest part of the summer as they are extremely heat tolerant and sun loving. I'm just wondering which requires more water. Gazania?

    I know fall is the planting time for veggies, and more temperate-climate flowers, but certainly there are plenty of things to grow in the heat of summer here and I just got to experiment I suppose.

    Thanks again to all! (three of the vincas died and the other three did fine...go figure)

    Z

  • juwel
    13 years ago

    Vincas can be a little tough to start in the midst of summer--definitely make sure they have afternoon shade, and water more frequently until they are established. Also make sure you are mulching them--how big are the planters? While they can withstand heat, if the planters are too small you could be cooking the roots.

  • nmgirl
    13 years ago

    "Gazania, vinca and portulaca are planted anytime...sun loving."
    "Sun loving"?
    Hmmm, I'm wondering if we're talking about the same plant. I can think of 2 very different plants that are called "vinca" and a third that has the name randomly applied to it. Do you have a scientific name for the one you have or could give us a description please?
    Just interested...

  • jardinerowa
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Sorry if I wasn't clear, I've been talking about summer vinca (catharanthus) as they call it and I guess it's not a true vinca. It is used as bedding plants in the hot desert southwest.

    I planted six in total and the three on one side died and the other three are flourishing in 115 weather! It's quite interesting. Thanks all.

    Z