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Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

Posted by BrightStars z8 E Tx (My Page) on
Mon, Dec 15, 03 at 23:46

Help!!. My friend has a new wooden house in the South. He is infested with scorpions. He had the house fumigated and they seemed to have thrived on it - worse than ever (killed 13 over the weekend - small house). Does anyone know of any good way to get rid of them ??? He also has 4 dogs that run in the yard around the house so it needs to be dog safe too. Sure Hope So. Thanks


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

hello bright stars, you may want to post your question at the arizona gardening forum. scorpions are common here (although i have only encounted one in the 8 1/2 years that i have lived here, knock on wood...). i am sure there are some people there that can give you some advice.


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Fumigation will kill living scorpions, but unless you kill every last one of them and the eggs you still have the problem. Here in Arizona people have success going with companies that specialize in scorpions and will take the time to find the nest. Even with that they're tough. Now the good news is that most scorpions aren't terribly poisonous - about like a bee. Your friend should check with his dog's vet to get advice as well.


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This is probably not what you want to hear as you have dogs, but some cats will kill scorpians. When I say "some" I mean some cats are not the hunting mouser types and won't kill them.


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  • Posted by usha z8AZ,Nscottsdal (My Page) on
    Mon, May 3, 04 at 13:08

Scorpions arrive for food. If you get rid of the food then they go away. Exterminator service works on this principle. They kill crickets,ants..etc in the house which will get rid of scorpions. Tell your frinds..to fill up bathtubs and sinks with water and flush them on a regular basis. Scorpions tend to come up the drainage system at night. Also they make have to put up screens on A/C ducts as well if above method does not get rid of them.


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Hi Brightstars!
First, I don't want to sound mean to the other posters but I have a great deal of experience with scorpions... scorpions do not have eggs, they give live-birth to as many as 32 young and mom carries them on her back for a week or two afterwards till they are big enough to get along on their own. And they don't come up drains or come in your house looking for food. They have plenty of food outside. They are coming in seeking comfortable temps and WATER. They are HIGHLY attracted to water which is why peaple often find them in their sinks. Filling your sinks at night will probably only attract more. Getting rid of them takes time, even with a professional exterminating service. They can live as long as seven years and are very hardy! Dusting your attic with diatomatious earth helps. Sealing all the cracks in your house, including those around light fixtures, light switches, baseboards, etc. also helps. Pay special attention to recessed lights and ceiling fans. Check under the toe-jams and in the back of the cabinets in your kitchen and bathrooms and fill in any holes.


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Oh, forgot this... screening air ducts probably will do nothing either. These are closed systems... there is a return air vent in your house but other than that there is no way for a scorpion to get in so as to crawl out your air vents. Sealing around the vents helps, though, since they can crawl out from around them.
Good luck!
And I appologize if I insulted anyone... didn't mean to.


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  • Posted by usha z8AZ,Nscottsdal (My Page) on
    Fri, May 7, 04 at 17:58

Hi CF! I don't mind your advise at all. All I get from that is a bunch of us got suckered by extermination companies!!!!!Thanks for the info


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I just moved here to Arizona and I may sound naive, but the main thing I've learned here and other sites is that poisoning them seems NOT to be the answer. But getting rid of the insects that they DO eat seems to help, especially crickets. Another thing I'm thinking is that perhaps these natural enemies of scorpions may also help:

1) Arizona Wind Spider
2) Bats, geese, chickens
3) Woodpeckers
4) Roadrunner
5) Desert Shrew
6) Elf Owl
7) Western Coastal Whiptail Lizzard
8) Some cats (I say "some" because not all cats are the stalking-catching type, although 10 of my 13 of mine ARE)

However, I am aware that introducing or increasing some of these "friends" to employ may attract other wildlife, but could you put woodpecker food out to attract the woodpeckers and roadrunners? One thing I DO know for sure: cats make great insect and mice catchers! We have 13 cats; no mice, no insects, and no lizzards where the cats are. They actually work in "shifts" stalking ANYTHING that moves on their special cat patio which is open to the backyard which is open to the desert wash directly behind us. While 3 or 4 sleep, the other 3 or 4 stay awake on guard, and then the remaining 5 or 6 do the same inside the house. There is always 3 or 4 of them prowling and making rounds. I haven't even a fly or knat or mosquito there (and that is amazing since their cat boxes are kept out there!) There are 2 of the younger ones that actually stand guard in the BATHTUB and wait for ANYTHING that might come out of the drain or attract to the tub for water like little spiders. So I figure that they will catch the scorpions too, but I hope they know how to avoid the stinger. You say you have dogs, would they let a cat in their domain? Younger cats are always on the prowl for insects and I have even seen my 5 year old cat wake up instantly at attention from a dead sleep to catch a small field mouse that was trying to get into the cat patio. Just a thought.


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I'll give you a call when the local Petco gets their next shipment of Elf Owls. ;-) Sorry. That just made me chuckle.


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I've read that chickens eat scorpions, in addition to grasshoppers, spiders, ticks, termites, etc...just about everything that happens to plague me!LOL I am in the process of hiring a few chickens to do my exterminating for me. Can your friend have even a couple of chickens? I bet it would help. I think they kill small snakes, also. Helpful little critters:)


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Our level of infestation was nowhere close to what was described in the opening post, but we did have a problem and the scorpions did become more noticable for a while after initial fumigation efforts failed (as they were driven out of hiding but not killed). Here is what I remember doing:

1. Removed all brush and scorpion cover from around hte house, including soem bits of bark mulch left over from the previous owner.

2. Spread durusban granuled under the house (on stilts) and then used a hose sprayer of diazanon to "paint" the pillars and steps and to water in the durusban.

3. Took the cats to the vet for several days of boarding.

3. Since the trim had been installed wrong anyway, I pulled the baseboards and the trim around the doors to get poison deep into the crevices. I also removed electrical outlet covers and emptied all cabinets, including transferring all of our non-refridgerated foodstuffs into plastic bags.

4. Put boric acid into all aourlet boxes, around doorframes, under the kitchen counters, and along where hte baseboards would go - anyplace a cat couldn't get at.

5. Set off a bug bomb in each room and three in the attic.

6. Went to San Antonio for the weekend to let things in the house settle out.

7. Swept up piles of dead bugs and scorps, fixed trim in the "cat's room" so we could keep them in there safely until I got the rest of the trim up.

8. Sprayed foam around the outside of all electrical boxes to seal against the drywall and took similar action around the doorframes and as pipes came through walls. Used those exterior box sealing gaskets when replacing the outlet covers. Tacked up trim and caulked all edges so nothing could squeeze through. This sealed a layer of boric acid in all the places a scorp or bug might crawl though aside for weatherstripping on moving parts of doors and windows, so that they'd be forsed to wade through the stuff after coming in from outside before finding a way into the interior.

Now only 1-2 a year get in, generally meeting thier end at via a cat's claw in teh entryway or when noticed by a sink. Removing debris from the yard and fumigating the attic are probably the two most effective things I did for immediate relief, and sealing the house provided the long term cure.


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I work at a complex of 80 year old buildings in the California desert. I have found and killed scorpions that are upwards of six inches long (counting tail).

When I first started there, we found several of these guys each week. I was curious as to their nature so did some poking around on the internet.

Apparently, scorpions are nocturnal, so that explains why we would almost never find them when we were searching around, unless we lifted up a piece of carpeting, or moved a planter. They usually hide during the day.

Apparently, MOST scorpions found in the USA are not much more venemous than a bee sting, but for those that are highly allergic to bee stings etc, it can be a real problem.
Getting stung apparently hurts like heck. I wear boots to work even though they are hot, but then we have rattlesnakes too.

I have read that scorpions can be located at night with a black light. I have not tried this, but apparently they "glow" in blacklight.

Live births is correct, they do not lay eggs.

Besides chickens, I am told peacocks will keep their numbers down.

A can of Raid will only make them mad...lol.

This past year we cleared much debris, such as old piles of lumber, and general junk from around the buildings. We also went on a serious spraying program.

This has helped a lot, only two so far this year. The spraying has helped to clear out other insects that might be food, such as crickets and cockroaches.

Clearing debris I think has been the most help, chased them away from the buildings. Removing places for them to hide and nest.

I read they actually can live 12 to 15 years. Judging by the size of some we have found, I can believe that.

I have never found one in a bathtub, shower, or sink. I do not know why they come inside, but I almost always find them smack dab in the middle of a room.

I poked a broom at one and he acturally grabbed the bristles with his pinchers. Very aggressive. I tossed him fifty feet with the broom...lol. The I whacked him until dead. As long as they stay out in the desert they're OK with me, it's their territory, but when they come in the building they are mine!

Personally, I am glad they are so big, the smaller ones are harder to see, our variety is sort of transparent yellow.

Of course, this is just my experience, all I can say is watch where you step, and ALWAYS check your shoes.

Sharon


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Sharon,

They DO glow in the dark!! We have a freind who is really interested in scorpions, and everytime he visits, he brings a portable blacklight, and we go down to the lake and look for them. Sometimes, there's so many it looks like stars on the ground! It's weird to see how many of those critters are out there that you don't see by the light of a campfire. Makes you really nervous:). I'm with you - if they are outside, that's okay. But in the house, they're dead!

BTW...if I encountered a six-inch scorpion, I think I would drop dead of a coronary! Our are little, fortunately. Not EVERYTHING is big in Texas:)


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As someone who has been stung twice by scorpions - very, very painful. My parent's would hunt for them (scorpions) and black widows around the outside of the house with a black light (ultraviolet light) and a something to wack them with (like a shoe or a fly swatter). The scorpions glow with a pale yellow or green color. The hourglass on the black widows glows the same way. Oh, and drowning the scorpions in water will take about a month (odd story...)

In the metro Phoenix area, the way I know to get rid of the scorpions is to get rid of their food. I know that we see them more in the summer when they are looking for shade.
Bark scorpions are very painful (and very poisenous).

I have seen cats catch scorpions - it's really neat to watch. I have also seen one dog just bark at them, and another completely ignore them.

good luck

sharyn


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I have been looking all over for something to ACTUALLY kill scorpions. I live in southern AZ and my new house is totally infested with these nasty things! If you've ever been stung by one while asleep you'll understand where my anger is coming from!! My opinion is insecticide does NOTHING, waste of money! My cats just play with them, dog does nothing. I hear chickens eat them though, haven't brought one home yet, LOL! I've found numerous info. using boric acid (found at wal-mart by the peroxide). It is used in everything (not ingested though),wear contacts? It's in the solution. Anyway, it's safe (http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/r?dbs+hsdb:@term+@rn+10043-35-3 You'll find numerous ways to use it, sprinkle on base boards, cracks, in a plastic container (will kill roaches)down the drain, sprinkled on carpet (for fleas) ANYWHERE where these alien creatures have been found, SPRINKLE BORIC ACID THERE!! I'm doing it, I've never been so infested, I hate these ugly things! I can deal with the tarantulas, and snakes but, these creap me out!! Most insecticide gets rid of insects but, these never seem to disappear, it's true you get rid of their food supply, you'll get rid of them. But, do you really want them lingering around while your asleep, yuck!! Time to search and destroy!!

Here is a link that might be useful: HSDB


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I am native to the Antelope Valley(Mojave Desert),ca.High Desert.I agree it's the water supply and hiding places. Clear out any debris around the house and seal cracks. Clean out clutter and put moth balls in storage boxes (in a container with a lid poked full of holes.) This will also keep out moths and widows.Fill your sinks with vinager water.Not too strong or it will corode the metal. If they fall in and "drown" use a pair of pinchers to get it out. I personally control mine with cats and my pet Geckos.PJ


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One of the best things you can do is to seal up your house with silicon sealant and use foam for the big cracks. This will help prevent them from getting in the house. I've read that scorpions can get down to the height of credit card in order to get under certain cracks. This would be a good start and then follow some of the other suggestions above to start killing them.


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Your dogs will be fine if stung (unless very frail and old or very sick and weak to begin with) I've had puppies stung at 8 weeks old and their faces just blew up like they were being overinflated. I panicked and flew to the vet with the pup, the vet gave it a cortisone shot and said the pups swelling will go away in about 8hrs (it did) the vet also said that next time I won't have to come in for scorpion sting...it will just go away by itself.


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  • Posted by RandiT z8b, Coastal GA (My Page) on
    Fri, Jul 23, 04 at 23:02

I have been off of this site for some time.

We are building a new home in NM..so this has taken up a LOT of my time. I am also concerned about scorpions, having to move three Australian Shepherds..one of which can only be dubbed "ancient". We have small scorpions in coastal GA, but we FINALLLLY got rid of them within the house by locating their breeding place (??) under our fridge. After our "Bug Guy" sprayed the base plate, along the front of the fridge, with "whatever" restricted pesticide..we have been totally free of these aggressive little arthropods (?) since..haven't seen a single one affixed to the walls, or scampering across the floors in the morn. I like to co-exist with MOST of nature, but...things that are venemous, whether they are three inches, or six feet, I have problems tolerating. We are concerned about moving to NM, with much larger hard-to-kill scorpions. I get the impression that Scorpions are designed to outlive mankind!


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Yeh, Randy T, scorpions and cockroaches will outlast us all. You can talk to your local vet when you get to New Mexico to find out how much of a problem you'll have in your area as it varies quite a lot.

Crista


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Chickens I'm telling you are the answer! We had scorpions for many years until we got chickens. We also went throughout the house caulking, sealing, dusting, spraying etc., this brought the numbers down greatly, but the chickens were what really cleared them up and out! The chickens ate anything and everything that moved (read:scorpion food sources) including the scorpions themselves and never so much as hiccuped.
After having poured untold thousands of $$$ into other treatments including exterminators galore, and trying everything we had been told, and had read about we decided to try them. After the first 3 months the sightings were down to about 1 a month from 1 a day. At the end of the first year we were not seeing any, except maybe 1 or 2 the second year. After that, nothing, nada, zilch! The added plus was free eggs, and fertilizer...
I would highly recommend them~they're a cheap solution that works. We are still in the same location more than 20 years later and are scorpion free!

HTH,
Trudi :0)


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Whot if we cant get chickens or cats?


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I have lived in my house for 27 years. It was built on a former citrus grove. I tried spraying but that never worked unless you sprayed directly on the scorpion. I found that most of the scorpions live in the long block wall around my yard. On the section of wall with stucco the scorpions like hiding in the vertical support where the crack is. On the plain concrete block wall they hide anywhere they can squeeze in. I solved the scorpion problem by buying a cheap $10 UV light on Ebay. It is hand held and does the job. I use long surgical tweezers or spray the scorpions directly. You have to go out 'touring' every few days to keep up with them. I found about 15 every night for a while and now it is down to 1 or 2 three times a week. The UV light is also the perfect way to look for scorpions in the house. They glow like crazy but the lights have to be out. They usually just sit there when the UV light hits them but I note that about 1 in 50 take off running; evolution in progress?


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My grandma just got a thing where you plug it into the wall, It sets a eary sound out and she paid 60$ for it so far we havent had any scorpions in are living room for a while."""IT WORKS!"""


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Our sincere condolences to anyone with a scorpion problem. When we built our house 11 years ago on an acre next to a canal, no one told us of the potential scorpion problem. If you are forewarned there are many things to do to keep them out. You can spray-foam every stud in the walls where a wire or pipe goes through, for starters. The wiring in your walls makes a freeway for bugs. We found one running around and around in a fixture on our dining room ceiling. Found another in our kitchen flourescent fixture. We have heard of them dropping out of ceiling fan mounts. After lots of research, scorpion control specialists, bitter experience, etc., I can give you all the following advice, shine a light around all your doors at night. If you see the light from the opposite side, there is room for scorpions to wiggle in. Your local home store will have stick-on foam weatherseal in several sizes. It works if applied with great imagination. Also there is spray-in latex foam with which you can seal cracks and also around your drains and where the water pipes come through the walls. We drilled several holes around the waste pipes in the kitchen and bathroom cabinets. Then we sprayed in the foam until it came out the other holes. That didn't stop 'em. Then we caulked the foundation/wall joint all around the house(where we could get to it). No luck. So we caulked around all the door casings. That slowed them up. Then we put screen behind every light fixture and smokealarm in the house. The drywall repair screen (for joints) is self adhesive, and worked well behind the smoke alarms and some of the light fixtures. Still, we got a few scorpions. Then I screened every bathroom "fart" fan, just in case. Found a couple in sinks around the house. Now we leave the plugs in, unless using them. Our scorpion control guy actually came out on his own time, WITH HIS WIFE, after dark one night with a black light. We eliminated 18. So my wife and I bought a couple black lights, some scorpion/black widow killer (A&P nursery), and every week or so I go out on search and destroy missions in pitch darkness. Now I only find 4 or 5. I find it amazing that such a pest (and valuable predatory critter) lights up like a neon light under a black light. Mother Nature's law of compensation? The net result is that we only find one every month or so in the summer in the house, and hardly any in the winter. Somehow a few still elude us. Usually we find them up on a wall where they are quite visible, to their dismay! The secret as we see it is to take each room separately, and check out every possible entry, around switchplates, outlets, vents, lights, doors, windows, fans, pipes, etc. Good luck on the etc. that's the hardest part to get past! We hear cats are a good control, but ours isn't. Good luck with your bugs, and we hope this long-winded message may help you out.


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We live in Las Vegas.

When we first moved into our house, I found a total of 2 scorpions in the house (bark). They were in the bathroom. I was alerted to their presence by dismembered parts of crickets :-)

Anyway, the best method we found to kill them when we saw them was STEP ON THEM :-) A nice hiking boot worked! Two more were outside. One we got by dropping a rock on him (ouch) and the other drowned in the new swimming pool. We think that the pool construction disturbed their nest. The good thing is that we have not seen one since in the last 12 months. We have regular pesticide treatments to keep away their food source, have no palm trees (which they love to hide in) and all our ground coering is small crushed rock (no grass even to provide moisture). Our plants are on bubblers so they dont provide alot of moisture.

We have a doggy dog, but it is for the patio door and removable at night to keep the critters from coming in when they are active.

The one that drowned I saw the night before with a blacklight. Cool glow!

All the house construction is about 2 miles away and I think all the scorpions moved there and to homes with trees and bugs.

I am HIGHLY allergic to bees (a small sting from a wasp to my pinky will give me a localized reaction that swells my entire hand to my forearm) so I try to be careful. I walways check my shoes!


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On our first scorpion hunts of the year, in February, we killed 45 in the first three nights. Yippee! They were all outside but one, and since then we only get 2 or 3 every other weekend or so. I recommend the blacklight pre-emptive strike whenever possible. Keep their numbers down and they probably will not be so bothersome. Good luck!


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Try diatomaceous earth. That seems to work well. Sprinkle it around the perimeter of the house and the attic. Keep it away from the interior of the house though since it's toxic. Also clear away all debris (wood piles, leaf piles, etc) from your house. If you keep a compost pile try to move it as far away from your house as you can. Also keep your house free of clutter (especially dirty clothes piles....that's a scorpion's happy hunting ground right there).

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Well, I guess I lied. No sooner had I posted here that a cute little bark scorpion showed up on our patio (one of the most dangerous varieties as we know).

It was about 9 pm and we had left the dog bed laying on the patio (dog uses it during the day every now and then).

I flipped over the bed before bringing it in (just in case) and low and behold there was the little tan monster. I went in and put on better shoes and grabbed some spray and went out after him. At that point he was trying to make his escape up the side of the house (stucco same color as the scorpion).

I sprayed and sprayed directly on him to no avail. Little bugger actually loved the stuff like a small shower, so I scraped him off the house with a swiffer stick and smooshed him but good.

First one we have seen since last year. Dang!

We live in NW Las Vegas, close to the entry to the mountain areas, so it is a little more rural and also where alot of houses are built. Our neighbor has palms, grass and a pool so I bet they live there and foray to our yard every now and then.

Think I will do a blacklight search one night.

I ALWAYS shake my shoes and when I work in the garage or around shelfs or under cabinets where things are generally not disturbed I always wear my thick leather work gloves since I am allergic to bees.

Wish I knew these were here before we moved here.

My parents are on the south side of Vegas in Henderson and have not seen one over there.

Anyone got their best recommendation for killing them, besides my old standy by of stepping on them?

We have a dog and I dont want her to get poisoned by anything I put down.


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A friend whose house was built in a Citrus orchard in Arizona recommends TALL breeds of chickens. Maybe peacocks help too, but they're a little too noisy for me.


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2 days ago i had my first encounter with a scorp. I was looking for my shoes under a pile of dirty clothes in my room and there it was. So some advice for the younger people: When your parents bug you about keeping your room clean, it might be a good idea, b'cuz apparently scorps love to hide in a pile of dirty cloths. Oh, and i have chickens and Yes, they will eat ANYTHING that moves, unlike my lazy old cat that just sleeps all day. AMY


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I'm surprised no one mentioned what, to me, looks like the obvious solution. Train the dogs. Actually, if they're not already frail or ancient I'd imagine one painful sting would be all the training they'd need... Anyways, the same discussion comes up with regard to rattlesnakes fairly often, and the simple fact of the matter is that unless you keep your dog inside all day and have made your house impregnable, encounters with scorpions and rattlesnakes are an inevitable fact of life in the boonies. Getting rid of the critters is a losing battle, but teaching yourself and your dog to react to them appropriately works.

Patrick Alexander


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We have had quite a few of them in the 6 or so years we have lived in chandler, it you live by irrigation, you will see them. One thing we did was to get rid of the big river rock, they seemed to love that stuff. I cut all of my shrubs very high around the bottom and blow out the debris with a blower. Another thing you may consider is pulling the carpet back on the perimeter of the house, caulking, then stretch it back. Many can come in from between the sill plate and foundation. I have also heard they do not like lye, and 20 mule team borax is supposed to be repulsive to them??? Caulking and weather stripping is key!! I always put a few bags of the Bayer granules down around the foundation in the spring, the rain washes it in and it does help to keep them away, and the food bugs too if nothing else....and wear shoes! It also seems that since we had our pest guy treat the fire ants with termador, we have seen a lot less.


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Speaking of food sources...the scorpion infestation could also be a clue to an underlying termite problem within your friend's wood house. Might be a good idea to check into it if they haven't had a termite inspection/treatment recently.

Agreeing that fowl are a great means of scorpion control. They'll clean up a few acres in no time flat, and keep it that way. I usually had tarantulas all around the property but when they were scarce, the fowl would free range for a few hours each day for scorpion control.

We grew up with lots of scorpions around and usually let them be unless they entered the house. My dogs have been stung with no lasting ill effects, but having been painfully stung a couple of times myself, I wouldn't wish that on any creature. I hope your friend is able to get the problem resolved. :)

http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/insects/az1223/


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First, we lived in so Calif for over 30 yrs and never saw a scorpion and spent a LOT of time in the city, hi desert, low desert, mts, beaches, etc, (coyotes, black widows and rattlers were our biggest 'fear'.
Now, we are near Canyon lake, TX in a new home with a lot of them in and out. (Hill Country above San Antonio and New Braunfels)
We have scorpions that look like that in your video, but everyone says they are not posionous - even those bit by them. I noticed some in this website say they are.
We also have a lot of dark burgundy colored ones. Both colors are around here and as big as 6 inch or more tip to tip.


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I have lived in Florida my whole life and had never seen a scorpion (even though I have camped alot and I lived in a very rural wooded area for 2 years) until two nights ago. My daughter was in my bed and said "mommy, what is that odd bug?" I looked down and there it was by my window, a tiny little scorpion. Tiny though it was, it scared me as an ant can send me to the hospital. I whacked it a few times with a shoe, shook out my bedding really well and went to sleep. I am renting a brand-new house in a neighborhood that is still being constructed, the lot next to me is a huge debris pile just perfect for nasty creatures. I saw my second scorpion tonight, much bigger than the first, my daughter saw it in her bathroom and came screaming to me, this one was about the size of a chapstick container, I sprayed half a can of Raid House and Garden (which I sprayed around my baseboards, windows, and doors for the nasty ant and spider populations) which killed it in about 5 minutes. I am in a house filled with things that can kill me and of course, pest control is not included in the rent. After reading some of these things I am not sure pest control will work anyway. With my husband out of the country I am a little intimidated by the whole pulling off baseboards and pulling back the carpets thing. I don't know what I am going to do but for tonight at least, we are sleeping on a chaise lounge in the living room, I don't even want to get into my bed since I found the scorpion in my bedroom. If anyone else in Florida has had this problem in new construction, share what you did because these hideous little beasts make me nervous. Thanks


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Here is what works for me: I spray my own house with a product from Bug and Weed Mart in AZ. ( I do not work for them ) They sell the same strength pesticides that the exterminators use and I find I do a better job of applying the product. I also put down granules that are time released; you have to water the granules in. At night I go out with a black light (Home Depot) and use a small butane torch to blast them. It only takes a second and if they are in a crack in the block wall fence the heat still kills them. Also, if they have babies on their back it kills the babies so they don't run off. The butane torch can be purchased at WalMart for 39.99. WalMart has a cheaper one, but I like the more expensive one because you just pull the trigger and it lights automatically and then shuts off. I know of several people who have been able to control scorpions with this approach. I agree with controlling the food supply, killing them at night and keeping your house sealed. Good luck and good hunting!


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I have just purchase a new constructed house in North Florida and I have seen more scorpions in this house than in my entire 54 years residing here. I was just stomping them until last night war was declared when my seven year old got stung while drying off after his shower. It was very painful to him. I have read a lot of good information here and I will let you know what I find out


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I am having a similar problem. We have a newly constructed home in San Antonio, Tx. and 2 dogs. We had an exterminator come out but they are still around. My dogs love to play with bugs and tonight one of my dogs found a small (about 1inch) scorpion in the house and pawed at it and got stung. He screamed very loudly so i know it hurt him. I freaked out and rushed him to the animal hospital where we sat for almost 2 hours waiting to be seen. He was chipper and alert so we decided to go home. The vet said that if they have any problems breathing or have unusual swelling to bring him back immediately. Otherwise, just watch him for 24 hours. Trust me we will be going over our house with a fine tooth comb now to make sure it is sealed better. We have found a dead one in light fixture though so apparently they are in the walls. Scary!


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I have lived in Jacksonville, Florida all my life and have never seen a scorpion until my husband and I had a house built in a neighborhood that has natural woods around us. We have lived here for seven years and would only find maybe 1 or 2 a year, but for some reason we have found 8 in the last week. I have a three year old son, a new puppy and a cat. Well, now I am freeking out. Yesterday we put granulars around the perimiter of the house and property. We also bombed the attic and house, which was a pain in the butt! Had to remove all animals, plants, open bags of chips, bread and other items like toothbrushes, etc. I then had to wipe down all tables and vaccum. The bombs leave a slight odor and had to open the house to get fresh air. I feel safer now, but I really think the reson they are comming in is to look for water. It has been very hot and we have had no rain, until a few days ago with tropical depression Alberto. I have been stung once in the stomach, hand and foot. I rather be beaten with a baseball bat. It is the worst pain I have ever felt, besides labor, but something good comes from labor. I am going to put something in the wooded area behind my house, like moth balls and a bug killer. I am also going to try the black light thing. I think it is really cool. I would love to hunt for those beasts and wack them with a shoe or swatter. I will WIN this war and succeed!!!!!


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I live in NW Las Vegas, Summerlin to be exact, which is known for having scorpions. I first started seeing them a few years ago, and brought in a professional exterminator, "Bulwark". At first they were fine, until one day I was home, noticed the bug guy just eat his lunch in his truck, then put the bill on my door. He didn't get out to spray!!

Anyway, I decided to battle it out on my own. Some of the things I have done was blow DE all over, remove bushes that gather leaves, and caulk the doors. This dropped down the numbers inside the house, but I would still find them inside...Unacceptable.

I read the post above by Ben Gilbert, and bought a black light flashlight from Streamlight Flashlights. I also bought a handheld butane torch and took his advice. There is nothing more satisfying, when it comes to killing these creatures, than to burn them. They try to run in cracks, but if you are quick, the flame kills them quick. I over do it and burn them until thier bodies don't glow under the black light. I used to find 3 or so a night, but now I MAY find one a week.

I changed the eco system of my yard; before, I would never hear crickets, due to the scorpions. Now I hear a few crickets once in a while. The only reason they are rare is I still spray the perimeter of my house.

Thanks for the fun blacklight/torch trick Ben! All of my neighbors get a kick out of it, and are going to by the combo as well.


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I am glad I found this topic. I have lived in the same house in NW Phoenix for 12 years and really haven't had a real problem with scorpions til now. Occasionally we would see one in the yard when doing yard work, but not a real problem. We of course killed any we saw. In the first 8 years of living here we had only 2 scorpions in the house, which we killed. Then two years ago had 2 more which we found under the dog beds one day when I went to vacuum. The beds were filled with bark, so we immediately threw them away thinking the bark attracted the scorpions. Then last summer we found 7-8 scorpions in either the bathrooms or the kitchen sink. We had a bad year of no rain and poor monsoons so we knew they were looking for water. I was stung by one in bed one night - the pain was awful, then had numbness in my toe and foot for a couple of days, but recovered. Unfortunately we never found the scorpion after tearing the bed and room apart that night. I slept uneasily for a week.

I live in a cul-de-sac of 5 houses on a golf course. ALL of my neighbors started having problems with scorpions at that time last summer and at least one person in each house had been stung - some went to the ER. We are an established neighborhood, all homes are at least 10 years old and no construction anywhere. We assumed it was a water issue and hopefully with the winter rains (which was minimal) and this summers monsoons they would go away. We had a good monsoon season, so we assumed the scorpion population wouldn't bother our homes. Well, it is much, much worse.

I have hosed down my patio once a week for 12 years after doing yard work and have never seen a scorpion. I killed two last week when I hosed it down and I killed 6 yesterday within 15 mins!! Two were at least 6-7 inches long, the rest 1 - 2 inches. They were hidden in the foundation cracks, under a flower pot and one under the cushion of my favorite patio chair I sit in nightly! We have had 4 in the house in the past week. Two in the master bathroom - one about 2 inches, the other 4 inches. We found another one last night and one this morning - these were very tiny - ant sized. One, my daughter found and the other our 7 lb Maltese dog tried to kill or eat this morning (we think). She retched, coughed and gagged and as we were thinking about taking her to the dog ER,(we had no idea what was wrong) she recovered, but she keeps licking her face. I called the vet and he said to look for a dead scorpion, we did and found one wet near her bed. We assumed she tried to kill it or eat it. She is okay and the vet said to just watch her for 24 hrs. I have two children, the youngest 8. My daughter has bad asthma and allergies.

I have all beige travertine and hardwood floors, so the scorpions blend in real well with all that brown. We have no carpet in the house (due to my daughter's allergies). We had the floors and walls sealed when we had new baseboards installed last year. We are all afraid to go barefoot in the house. I find that I am constantly searching the floor. It is getting absurd. Four neighbors were stung by walking barefoot on hardwood or tile floors. One was stung when she put a blanket across her lap to watch TV on her couch - it was in the blanket. Another neighbor was stung when she reached into a kitchen drawer for a tupperware lid. Everyone keeps their homes very clean.

My neighbors and I all talked yesterday and today and they all have exterminators, yet have more scorpions in their homes than I do! I don't have an exterminator due to two reasons. My daughter has bad allergies and asthma and I have been told by her doctors absolutely no pesticides, sprays, air freshners, hair spray, etc. Second, I read some research years ago about the predator/prey theory and applied that to my home and never have bugs in my house.(til the scorpions now) The theory is based on if you kill all pests, the predators are killed as well. Many predators take 2-4 times as long to reproduce and grow up as do the prey. Examples are the spider and the cricket. By the time the spider is mature, the crickets have reproduced 2-3 times and you have too many crickets. The balance is out of whack. For you biologists out there, I have no idea the reproduction and growth rate of spiders and crickets, this is just the example I was given. I was also given an example of coyotes vs. rabbits. Anyway I applied that to my pest control and I never have bugs in the house or patio. I also have geckos living on my patio and around my front door. We see them at night. We love them! I also have a ton of birds in my yard - bug eaters pecking the soil and trees looking for bugs. I've counted 18 grackles and 4 woodpeckers in one hour. Not just seed eaters. Well, all that is good, but I can't take it anymore after yesterday's discovery. If I spray, use granules, etc. I may kill the geckos, run off the birds, run the risk of my daughter's asthma, etc. What am I to do? I am gonna use the diatamaceous earth around the perimeter of the house (I use it in my pool filter), do the black light thing, seal absolutely everything I can seal (two of my neighbors spent a lot of money doing this but it didn't make a bit of difference) and whatever else I can glean off the internet. I am just afraid of using pesticides for my daughter's sake.

We live in a home owners association, so no chickens, fowl or livestock allowed. I am gonna have a termite company come out to make sure we don't have termites that are attracting the scorpions. Even though we haven't seen any sign of them. We have vaulted ceilings throughout the house, so not much of an attic to speak of to treat. Just the spot where the furnace is located. We have no brush or piles of stuff near the house. We do have two shrubs next to the house for southern sun shade. I may have them removed. We have gravel around the perimeter of the house - our grass is at least 4 feet from the house. Any other suggestions are appreciated. And by the way, we can't have a cat cause my daughter is allergic to them. I sure wish we could. One of my neighbors told me last night she is thinking of moving, she is so freaked out.


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** I know this seems long but I guarantee youll want to read it.

I live in an area of Tempe AZ that has scorpions. I own a townhome and would see a couple to up 4 a year inside. When I was remodeling I pulled off all the trim work, caulked and sealed around the doors and at the base of the walls. After putting up new trim and again caulked around that before painting and putting down new carpet. This really seemed to help I only saw one a year. I would also spray some Ortho poison from Home Depot which I also attributed to what was helping.

Now here is what I think you all are wanting to hear.
At the beginning of the year in February I rented out my Townhome and bought a house in the same neighborhood that was built by the same builder in the 70s. During the transaction the seller put down that there were scorpions. I asked her about it and she made an odd squeamish face and nodded that she has seen some. Because of the relatively small amount I saw in the Townhome I brushed it off as a minor issue.

When we moved in I realized that in back yard there was a huge pile of logs from a tree that had been cut down years ago. There was also an old childrens playhouse and aluminum shed in the back yard up against a cement block perimeter wall. The wall is such that there are a million little nooks and crevices. Also the ground around the pool was covered with about 6 10 inches of river rock that extended up to the wall. After about 2 weeks I decided to get rid of the wood pile because I figured it would be big problem in the summer. Thinking that this is February and our little scorpion friends were probably asleep.

During the pile move I saw a couple scurrying around and handedly killed them. A couple nights later I went out and saw 15- 20 scorpions around that side of the house and along the wall. I killed all those and keep going out every couple hours to find more. I didnt sleep well for about 2 weeks. I had convinced my pregnant wife to move into this house because I liked the area and now I didnt feel we were safe in it.

In the next couple weeks I went out every night killing scorpions and tore down the playhouse and shed. I was finding at least 10 a night.

Now here is want you all are really waiting to hear..

After a month I visited the Bug and Weed Mart that was right around the corner. These stores are all over the valley and they sell professional grade pesticides. You do not need to be licensed to buy these pesticides unless you are getting paid to spray someone elses house. They gave me a product called Cy-Kick. Here is a link to the website:

http://wmmg.com/cykickcs/shell.asp?id=0

This stuff rocks!!! I sprayed at night along the outside perimeter walls and around the outside of the house. Soaking all the points in the outside walls where they joined two sections together. I sprayed under all the eaves of the house and in the garage and also every inch of ground that was covered with rocks. I caught a scorpion during the process, put it in a container, sprayed it, and then sealed it in order to see if this stuff works. In the morning it was dead and over the next couple of days I saw more dead ones along the walls.

I searched for any bad human side effects with using this stuff because I was starting to get worried about my unborn child and didnt find anything alarming. This stuff works by having microscopic capsules that stick to the body of insects and the poison gets thru the exoskeleton. Scorpions dont groom themselves that is why it is hard to kill them with pesticides. This stuff doesnt need to be ingested which is why it works so well.

One other thing, a neighbor tipped me off that carburetor fluid will slow them down and even kill them. He gave me a can which I used to stun them to make it easier to kill, because if you dont get them the first time they can run pretty fast to a crack and get away. I used this in the beginning but havent had to since I havent seen that many. I wouldnt use this stuff in the house because its pretty sticky stuff and its not real good for you.

This summer I have only seen 4 or 5, this when I was seeing 10-15 on average when we moved in. I hope this gives you hope because it really helped me. If you have any questions feel free to Email me.

Jchri66@hotmail.com


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Here is the deal. We live in the desert. They say if you haven't seen a scorpion in AZ, that means you are not looking! I just moved to a new area in the desert, and have seen 1 indoors and 2 outside. I hired a pest control company, and that seems to kill their food supply. However, I have them come to spray my home inside and out 2 times a month. Also, DEBRIS IN THE YARD WILL GIVE THEM A PLACE TO HIDE! You have to get rid of that! Don't leave a lot of lights on outside, don't leave doors open! Also, I have 3 english bulldogs, and i never leave them outdoors unattended. If they get bit, they will swell up and have a hard time breathing. Keep liquid benadryl handy, give them 4 tsps of it, and get them to an animal clinic within 20 mins. Scorpions will kill dogs. Not trying to freak you out, just be aware. Also, think of this: many people in AZ have had dogs that live outside and have been just fine! The odds of that little stinger getting your dog are pretty slim. Just be aware and you should be fine! PEST CONTROL PEST CONTROL PEST CONTROL


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Chickens aren't big enough to turn over rocks where they hide--you need Emus! They even turn building blocks over, and root them out.

But all poultry-types, from Chickens to Emus, roost at night, and since Scorpions are nocturnal, they do absolutely no good for the ones that are well concealed in daytime and come out at night.

You need a half-dozen Gila Monsters for those, since they're also nocturnal. Just don't have any cracks or spaces large enough for the Gila Monsters to get in the house.

(Sorry, it's late and my mind weakens after midnight.)

Two true stories about Scorpions, I swear:

Story 1. Had a friend in Los Angeles years ago during the hippie days who had a successful business, and used to come to Arizona and New Mexico to buy Turquoise for resale. He said he was doing business at an Indian reservation (somewhere near Winslow, Az., I believe), and when he got back in his Cadillac to leave, he SAT on a Scorpion that was on his car seat, and it bit him on the inner thigh. His leg swelled up twice its normal size, as did his manhood, and he told me the doctors thought they were going to have to remove both the leg and the manhood--and I'm not kidding. The swelling gradually went down, and neither was necessary, but it had him plenty jumpy for awhile.

Story 2: Scorpions aren't just in the West. I was in Key West, Florida, about 15 years ago, staying at a girlfriend's house, Her mother brought the clothes in the house that had been hanging on a clothesline outside, and while she was folding them in the bedroom, we heard a blood-curdling scream. Went in, and the biggest Scorpion I ever saw--I would say 6 or 7 inches long, was on the bed. It had come in on the clothes, and freaked her when she picked up s piece of clothing to fold it. I caught it and put it in a jar and managed to carry it on a plane and bring it back East. Put the jar in a paper bag, and carried it on, without it being questioned. (Hate to try that today--probably get arrested, or something.)

I do wish all you who are bothered by Scorpions would seek out natural controls. Spraying poison all over the interior of your house (and even the exterior) surely can't be good for humans and other living things.

You know what they say about not throwing the baby out with the bathwater--it would be a shame to poison yourself or another family member over your fear of Scorpions. Most chemical poisons are at the very least carcinogenic.

Surely there are natural options--something nocturnal, like a ferret, or a big white rat.

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I live in the southern part of Texas, with the cactus and the coyotes. Scorpions have always been a part of my life (ugh)I took Horticulture and Floriculture in college and have never seen a problem with them till we moved back to Texas from Louisiana when my Dad retired...The problem was stuff of SciFi legends...but Dad kept on top of it with all manner of poisons ( not good for you) and eventually they were not totally eradicated but under control (it seemed)I should have started out as saying also that , I can kill a snake and not blink , but I will grow wings to avoid a scorpion, I am terrified of them, dont know why , could be the incident where I screamed when I saw on once and it jumped and ran away....where I live now, they can be bad, my husband keeps mothballs out which helps repel them AND snakes BTW....we have these adorable little albino geckos that i love but I am going to have to make a sacrifice this year. We have a new granddaughter and I want her to be able to visit here without worry of one of those scorpions stinging her. So I have found myself here looking for answers as well as other places....I se alot of good answers on here, but as far as these bird remedy, you get lice and other side attractions with the additions of fowl.....NOT to mention they attract major preditors to your yard I.E. coyotes, wolves and feral animals..AND snakes..FYI.( I have two yorkies(excellent scorpions killers too BTW), that I have to be careful of)...keeping your yard CLEANED of debris is the best answer. Overkill is NOT and fear can create overkill, before everyone starts on an spray frenzy, dont forget to check for ground water regulations too...fines can be costly....most of all though, dont let em get the best of you....it could be worse, I went to the bathroom in the middle of the night and had to kill a copperhead that had crawled up through my shower.....


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Just in from the front lines...
Recently purchased BC3-SCORPION Blacklite Flashlight (www.riskreactor.com) used to undermine the stealth capabilities of scorpion troops has resulted in heavy casualties. Confirmed reports of 15 killed the first night of fighting have brought new hope to the humans trying to keep a foothold on their property. Sources say the nightly attacks using the BC3 will continue until the yard is free from the scorpion invasion! (or numbers greatly reduced!)

BC3 is AWSOME and worth the price of admission. See them from 20 feet away! It's basically a modified Mag-Lite with unbelievably powerful UV bulbs. I think it'll slice through vampires too!

In addition to the spray we use, I might have a little fun with my paintball gun blowing them to smithereens! :)

Rob from Mesa, AZ


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hi,

i lived in wimberley, texas for 15 yrs. we had 2-3 types of scorpions that were not considered popisonous but could still deliver a punch that fels like a fire spreading. we had 7 dogs 4 cats and a total of 12 kids between 2 families in one large house.between 2 livingrooms and 6 bedrooms it was hard to keep them out. we found them everywhere in everything. the would come in when it got to cold, to dry, or the couldnt find enough bugs on the porch. the porch was enclosed on three sides with native texas rock, smothriver stones withlots of holes. it was a scorpion haven. the porch light provided a buffet nightly.

using poisons just destroys the natural environment and makes chemical companies rich. use borax, or earth shield, something that is nontoxic. earth shield clogs the air ducts in insects bodies and suffocates them to death,so even if they are eaten by a lazy cat later they are harmless. borax pretty much is repulsive to everything. most spray companies will tell you the chemical they use only hurts this or that bug, but i have 2 brothers who exterminate. both have started attending school to pursue different carreers because the chemicals they work with can be extremely dangerous. they have become afraid to wear their work clothes home around the kids and wear protective suits when they spray. why would i want to hang out in a house a guy in a bio hazard suit doesnt want to hang out around?

if you can have birds get one, a pet like a parakeet may not be too interested, but 1 chicken can decimate a bug population. i have 7 chicks that can wipe out a 5x15 patch in 30 mins. we use a chicken tractor, which is a mobile pen enclosed on all side except the bottom. this prevents poo buildup and they wont scratch the plants out of the ground making dirt patches. other things like guinea hens and peacocks and ducks are just as good. peacocks and guinea can be noisy, especially if they are solitary.(boredom, loneliness)if your dogs can be taught to get along with a kitten, get one, and feed it a rationed diet of catfood and spend alot of time teaching it to chase balls of string and such. grab a piece of bush with leaves attached and play with that. dont let them eat it tho it might make them sick. try to use things that are more natural to give the cat the desire to go play outside. teaching the cat to use its attack skills early on will give it the hunter/killer desire later. i have taught all my cats to get along with the dogs and to kill everything that moves, even if they refuse to actually eat it. they had a moth they size of my hand that they kept " locked" in the bathroom for 3 days. i felt so bad for it that i finally took it away from them and hid it in a tree to die in peace. my cats spend about 16hrs a day sleeping around the house in spurts. they spend nearly all night hunting critters. we had a massive shrew infestation over a space of 8 acres. between may of last year and january of this year the cats and 3 dogs we brought from texas eliminated them all. i had to suffer a few holes being dug in my yard, but it was worth not worrying that one of them was eating a poisoned animal. i used to have half a million 1-3 inch wide holes in my yard, now i have grass.

the best way to kill a scorpion is crush it. we have flushed them and watched them crawl right back up. we have tried to drown them in gasoline but that seems cruel and smells horrible. we learned to keep all of our dishes, containers ,etc, turned upside down because scorpions would drop off the cieling into things. one time i pulled out a pitcher that had a very fat momma with about 35 babies riding on her back. very cool, very creepy, but not where i wanted to see it. i am glad however that it ended up stuck in the pitcher rather than letting its brood loose in the house.

you can seal away but they want to come in. we built a small smallow pond out of a large birdfeeder whose base was broken. it was about 1/2 ft deep in the center. we lined it with various sized rocks and built it up enough to make crevaces in between. after a week or so the scorpions coming in for water stopped and the pond was attracting most of them by the end of 6 months. it attracted bugs and provided shelter and water. the winter was still a problem and overly hot summer days. they can feel the cool/warm air seeping from your house. they are coming in because they are already looking for a heat/cool source under a rock. the house is just a big rock... bugs leave chemical trails that most other insects can detect. scorpions most likely follow the bugs in from outside. you can seal your house until youve gone broke, but its really going to be a combination of things that keep them from being a nuisance. scorpions need to control the bug population just like spiders do. its neccesary for plant and animal health alike. heavy pesticides will not only kill the bugs that you dont want, but they may kill the ones you do want. many many bugs are needed to aerate soil and keep root systems healthy.

try to keep the yard clear. if you have a tree that drops alot of leaves, and you dont want to rake, you can use a mower. i keep the mover blowout pointed at the same place the entire time your mowing so that everything gets blown into the same place. eventually it will be mulched very small and spread thru the grass for fertilizer by the mower. it also removes the large clumps scorpids like to hide in. one big leaf can make a nice home.

after being stung at least 3-10 times a week i eventually got used to it. at first my ankle would swell, or foot, or hand, and i would have trouble breathing. after so many stings it was ruduced to a minute or two of fire and a little itchyness later. sometimes if they were small enough doses i didnt even notice anything but a tiny prick. my children were highly reactive to the stings but they got to were they would play with the scorpions and didnt mind getting stung. I dont know what the scorps in other areas are like but they are tough buggers were i used to live. we have been in central oklahoma for a year and thank god we havent seen a single one yet. it was very odd not seing any of them tho. we did however get treated to some very lovely black tarantulas with fire orange legs about halfway up from the tips.

BTW Elf owls only live in the holes carved into giant seguaro catus as far as i can remember.

and i have never been able to train my dogs to eat scorpions. i have a 16 yr old shitzu who was stung just as often as we were. i happen to think its helping her live longer by making her build up her system more often.(dear god, did i just start some new weird fountain of youth fad?) the best i get out of the dogs is a bark now and then to alert me to the presence. more often than not they just step over it and keep going as if it werent there. a large one may warrent a glance...i think the kids found them more often than anyone else, most likely because they spend alot of time on the floor.

in the end for us, making it more desirble for them to be outside proved to be our best solution.at an keeng a sun nd t ts e bac ote when we werent wearing shoes.

hope this helps.
wendy


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would anyone be intrested in making some money with these scorpions? Turn your problem into a profit!


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Greetings to all, (sorry I'm upset,ranting a little)

I stumbled upon this forum while feverishly looking for answers to my scorpion problem and I'm so glad I did. In the least it puts me at ease to know that I'm not the only one having to deal with these creatures and to have the resource to be able to ask questions on the subject is a big help itself..

I have read through all the posts here but I'm still coming up short as to what it is that I should do. Maybe if I give some background to my situation someone may be able to suggest what is best for me and my environment.

I'm renting a house in the cave creek area,moved in around the first of the year. And other than a few common household fix-it issues, my stay here has been a pleasant one. Until...3 weeks ago. My roommate found a scorpion in the middle of the family room/kitchen floor area. He promptly killed it. It was a bark scorpion,which freaked me out, but I told myself it had to be a one time incident considering I had been here for 8 months total without any sightings inside or out.

Well the next week as my roommate picked up a pair of pants off the floor to put them in the wash, and as he took a step for the laundry room he stepped onto yet another bark scorpion.

This of course scared the both of us, so and I called the AZ. poison control center to get a handle on the situation...which they handled it very well, better than we did.

And yesterday when I picked up a towel, out pops another one! What is going on? I keep a clean house...they weren't here before, what has changed?! That was it for me...I couldn't be in blissful denial any longer as there is definitely a problem. Why are they here all of the sudden?! I couldn't sleep thinking that one may have decided to crawl into bed with me. And to constantly have to scan the floor as I walk, and to shudder when picking out clothes from the closet, is no way to live!

To make my panic worse, while sweeping the bedroom floor this morning,(tile through-out the home which I'm sure they love) I moved a night side table out a little to get behind it, and sure enough out pops another one! Stinger ready and waiting for my next move...which was to squash him dead!

Anyway..I've had it! I grew up in northern CA. where there are no such beasts. So other than a creepy episode on the discovery channel, I have no clue on how to deal with their presence. There has been many suggestions here but none of them quick and easy fixes for those of us who rent. (BTW, owner uses side yard for storage and has no plans of removing the debris, part of the agreement, and from what I learned here a big part of the problem).

But I only plan to be here 2 months more max, then it's back to Ca, for me (worst beast is the black widow). But in the meantime, I would like to be somewhat at ease in my own home (imagine that) and more importantly not be stung by these things (as I'm allergic to bee's) plus, I really don't want to be packing these creatures and taking them with me back to ca.

Any and all help is greatly needed! :-O



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Hey there to my fellow scorpion lovers! NOT! I am originally from North Carolina where I don't think scorpions have ever been a problem. Now I live in Arizona and these little guys freak the heck out of me. We are getting ready to move from Phoenix to Parker, AZ, which is a little more deserty. This past weekend we were looking at the duplex we will be living in. It was gorgeous and we were getting excited. Just then, our three year old came into the master bedroom of the duplex and said there was a bad guy in the closet. I followed him into the living room thinking he wanted to play and he opened the closet door. There I saw the first scorpion I had ever seen. My husband quickly killed it and then flushed the remains. I suddenly did not want to move anymore! I had this overwhelming thought that these little critters were going to kill all of us! I also have a 7 month old baby. I really have felt uneasy about moving until I spent about 3 hours researching scorpions online today. I guess as far as the stings go, they are not as bad as I thought. Although they are really painful, I don't think they kill that many people. In other countries they do, but a couple of websites I found said that there hasn't been any human fatalites in the US in over 20 years. This made me feel a lot better. I think I will get some of the Cy-Kick anyway just to be safe. Thank you all for your posts.


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have faith

to get rid of your scorpions get rid of your fears.

live with your scorpions.

Check your boots in the morning, but live in peace and in prayer with your scorpions.

It is not a scorpion problem; it is a cricket problem.

Get rid of your crickets and your scorpions will go away.

TO get rid of of your crickets get rid of their food.

Stop eating crackers at night in your bed.

Use a table and clean up well (not just wiping the crumbs on the floor).

Cleanlinses is next to Godliness and solves a lot of critter problems (including mice).

Keep food stuff well packed in plastic and out of reach.

Love your scorpions.
THey only want to clean up after you by getting rid of insect pests.

THey want to help you clean up.

CLean up yourself and they will see you do not need any extra help.

Love your scorpions.


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

Today I saw my first scorpion. I moved down to Florida from Michigan two months ago. I was completly unprepared! The only good thing was that it was outside my apartment 3 floors down.

My concern is for my dog. I take her out walking everyday, mostly around the apt. complex. She does not like the grass here (it is different than the rye and fescues up north) so she only uses it for her bathrooom and jumps back onto the pavement. However, if I take the ball out onto the back lawn she'll chase the ball without a second thought. Is she in danger in the grass? What about at night when she does her business?

I also wanted to let people know that the product Cy-kick that has been mentioned and seems a little pricey at Pest Pro Joe's site is available elsewhere. The chemical in it is the same as Bayer Advanced Home Pest Control same percentage too. I have used it and sold it from the garden center I worked at in Michigan. It worked great for home invading insects and lasted indoors for the 9 months it claimed. A gallon of the RTU ran about $10, I'm sure you can find it at any garden center. Much to my releif today, I have already sprayed every nook and crany in my apt.

Please, if you have any suggestions about my dogs safty, help me out. Thanks!


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

I live in Cabot, Arkansas outside of Little Rock. We moved into a new home in January and I saw my first scorpion in May. I saw a few more (outside) as the summer progressed but when August came and we basically had no rain all month, I saw about 1 scorpion a night in the house, sometimes 2-4 a night. At that time, we also had our yard torn up due to some drainage work the builder did in ouy yard. We finally called the pest control and they came out but they were back within a few nights. Called again, they sprayed and they were back again. We could never find where they entered and it was usually no where near the garage or entry doors. Now that we've had some good rain, I've not seen any in the house.

So, is it safe to assume our problem was bad because of:
1) New Construction
2) Yard disturbed
3) Drought causing them to come in looking for water?

Thanks,
Brian


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

My house was flooded and had to rip out some floor and baseboards. I was in my closet just now and one was scurrying along in the void where the baseboard once covered and before I could nab him he crawled up behind the dry wall. I had some powered boric acid on hand and liberally applied that all around. The though of those suckers traversing freely throughout walls is something I hadn't thought of until now.

I thought I wouldn't have to deal with them again until I got warmer here. Oh well. I was on my driveway last night barefoot only to look down and see a tiny one trying to latch on to my foot at the last moment. I've sprayed the property and went on blacklight killing sprees all summer. I've lived in Gilbert for about 20 years, in 4 different subdivisions, and even for the first year in this house never saw one. Now they are all over one of the common backyard walls, in mainly one section, so I think the neighbor has a breeding ground and they've made it my way.

They sell at scorpion spray at Lowes that works good to kill them as you see them when you cannot just smoosh them because they wedged in a hiding spot or something. Also, Dust Off will freeze them for a while. I think what I was doing was holding the can upside down when spraying them.

I'm going on a major killing scorpion rampage though to try to end this. I have some crickets in the backyard, but rarely find any in the house.


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

My wife, an Army Brat, dealt with scorpions while she lived in Thailand (nasty ones) I have never encountered one. We plan to build in the Sonoran Desert, South of Arizona, on the Sea of Cortez. Anyone have any building tips to lessen the scorpion problem? I have dogs and an older cat who would have been a great scorpion hunter in his day! I have taken note of the mentioned, secret passages inside the stud walls (TY) Would a pillar foundation be of help, assuming it can be more easily sprayed?


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

I live in central Az, and a pest control friend of mine suggested this method to me. Wet a burlap sack and place it in an area where you suspect scorpions are hiding. In the morning, the underside of the sack will be covered with the little critters and you may harvest them at will. Don't know why this works, but it does.Good luck and be careful!!!


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

I am new to this board and have not read all of the responses so forgive me if I'm reapeating someone else but have you heard of a product called Cedarcide??? It is made from cedarwood oil and is deadly to insects but totally safe for humans and pets. Somehow it works on the central nervous system of insects. I'm in FL and have used it very successfully for Palmetto bugs (aka huge gross roaches!).


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

I have live in AZ for 7 yrs now. We moved further west out of Phoenix and never before have I seen so many native insects to the state as I do out here!

My question is, does grass keep scorpions away? We are putting in a huge lawn and I have been told scorpions don't like grass and it will help keep them away. Is there any truth to this?

Alos, we have 2 chickens and they do a WONDERFUL job taking care of all the bugs! They don't even flinch at a scorpions or wind scorpion for that matter! They peck them right up! Only thing about chickens is that they are VERY messy. They poop all over our patio and I have to spray it off a couple times a day.

I have alos tried diatenatious earth (I think I spelt that wrong) and it hasn't done too well for the scoprions or the wind scorpions. Also, once it gets wet it is no good anymore. What the feed store guy told me is that it is crushed up shells (to us it feels like powder) but to a bug, it cuts them all up. I have watched the wind scorpions walk right through a pile of it and it not do a thing.

Anyway, anyone know anything about scorpions and grass?


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Scorpions are on earth to torment You and Me

I just spent an hour reading every post on here. Very interesting stuff. The cy-kick is new to me. I live in Mesa, AZ and have for 26 years. 18 or so of those years were spent in a house built in a former citrus grove so I've had the displeasure of seeing probably thousands of those creepy demons, only been stung once though. I can confirm a lot of what was suggested; clear piles of leaves, wood chipping, low growing plants, loose soil etc... In response to the last post, the question about Diatomatious Earth not working; my understanding is that when they do cross the powder and it cuts their underside (exo skeleton) the effect is dehydration which will take some time but is quite effective. I was really suprised that no one mentioned the flat adhesive traps. When I moved into a new house in Mesa last year I had an epidemic for the summer(this is when they move inside). One day after finding 3 inside the house in a matter of 5 minutes I went to Lowes and bought every singe trap they had (about 30) and placed them around the house next to baseboards, exterior doors, and especially in the corners of the garage next to the big overhead garage door. I lost count of how many I was catching. I don't recommend putting them outside though, I tried this and when a scorpion got stuck a bird would see it and try to eat it and then the bird would get stuck and suddenly theres a bird walking around the yard with a piece of cardboard stuck to it's head, very pitiful. At my last house I did the blacklight thing and the first time caught 50-60 in one night and then less and less until eventually after a few years they were few and far between. I have started doing this at my new house and have started to see some progress. I don't kill them right away though, I pluck them off the walls with needle nose pliers and collect them and usually burn them or do something horrible to them. I found that smashing them on the wall makes glow-in-the-dark splatters that are distracting the next night I go out on a hunt. Anyhoo, I guess we'll all have to put up with them until you or I come up with a Pied Piper solution.


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OMG! Your story about the bird getting it's head stuck is SO FUNNY! I didn't realize that diatenacious earth took so long to work! I was half expecting to see one crawl through the pile and then have a Freddy Slashing going on and see it crawl to it's death, LOL!

Do you know anything about the grass thing? I have been to people's houses down here and they have these beautiful lawns and none of them have told me about having a scorpions or wind scorpion problem...
Do you know how to keep the wind scorpions off the patio??


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Scorpions are on earth to torment You and Me

I'm not sure about what effect, if any, grass would have on scorpions. I have found them in grass while out blacklighting at night. It doesn't seem like the best place for them to live so maybe it wouldn't be their first choice for home, especially if there are block walls nearby with lots of cracks to hide in. As far as keeping them off the patio, the only thing that comes to mind is not giving them a reason to go there. I have noticed that scorpions don't go very far from where they hide during the day to search for food, instead they will stake out a spot for days or weeks and wait patiently for food to come near them, so if there's nothing to eat for a while they'll just find a new camping spot(hopefully in another yard). Also if there is no good hiding spot near the patio during the day hours they won't stick around. This is where silicone & gap filling foam come in handy. If all else fails, keep a good thick soled shoe nearby and give them a lesson they'll never forget:)


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

Hi everyone. We moved to a year old house in the dirt hills of Western Colorado last summer. I've lived in another area of this valley since 1982 and NEVER saw a single nasty creepy horrid little devil! I've killed 8 here so far and had 2 near misses with stings. One of them crawled over my thigh in bed!!!!!!!!!!! Last night my 17 month old daughter brought the tissue box out of our powder bath and was very curious about putting her hand inside over and over. Then she signed potty and my HERO/Husband took her in to go. Guess what he found under the shelf that holds the tissue?! That's it! Enough! Scorpions be advised, this is MY house and if you enter YOU WILL DIE! I'm getting a black light, sealant, gloves and a rake at Home Depot today. I'm also going to buy a couple of the Pest Repeller Ultimate AT units. I saw them online. They use Ultrasonic, Electromagnetic, and Ionic technologies to ward off lots of pests AND clean the air. I'll post back in a month to let you know how they work. Has anyone else tried these? Did they help? Hopefully I'll report back with the cure in a month. By the way, we have bug killing cats and chickens and still get these horrible things inside!!!


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

Hello

I posted on this thread back on Sat, Oct 28, 06 about my experience and using Cy-Kick. I turned to this thread then because as you can read I bought a house that had a really bad problem with scorpions and was terrified after seeing so many outside at night. I'm happy to say that I'm still in this house and have not had any real issues since my nightmare when I moved in. I have not reread my previous post so forgive me if I repeat anything as I try to address the questions and concerns from the more recent posts and also forgive me if this again seems long. I love my house but I hate scorpions so I love to talk about this stuff and have checked back over the years to see if anyone has found something new. I just feel like I've done the right thing and want to help those people that are living with the same issue I had. As before if you have any questions for me I am always happy to answer them at:

jchri66@hotmail.com

People have contacted me over the last two years and I enjoy helping them.

After 9 years of living in 2 homes that had scorpions in the area I can safely say that if you have scorpions your neighbors do also. You should talk to them about it anytime you can and if you use my advice and find it helpful to your issues then pass it on to them every time the topic comes up. You need to do this because unfortunately, the reality is you can safely assume they don't care and are unwilling to do the things needed to take care of the neighborhood so your main concern is to keep the bugs away from you house and planted in your neighbors yard.

Moving on... Five things that have helped me:

1. I use Cy-Kick, I only spray it on the outside of the house. In fact I dont use anything on the inside of my house. I have block perimeter walls so I spray all along the bottom block of the walls. I aim slightly up from the ground line so I also get 4 or 5 inches of the ground. On the pillars I spray all the way up where the wall connects in and I spray the wall on both sides of the pillar up and out two blocks. For these walls I had noticed they were normally in those areas so that's where I spray. On the house I do the same thing at the base and never go up more then a foot from the ground, then I go back and spray the eaves. I make a circle around all windows but I don't spray the sills or the windows themselves. (They say this stuff is less harmless then toothpaste but I know this is a chemical so why risk it harming me or my family) As I said before, when I first started using this I caught one, put it in a tupperware container and then sprayed it. In the morning it was dead so that made me a believer that it will kill the bugs on contact. With that knowledge I spray at night because I figure yes the chemical still gets them when it's dry but why not spray when they are out. When I first starting using this I sprayed every 3 weeks and now I spray about every 3 months, maybe 3 times a year and usually I judge it by if I see them close by in the alley.

2. I use Delta Guard granules in the alley and along any bordering walls with neighbors. Again, assume the neighbors are more concerned about beating the Jones's, you concern yourself about beating the scorpions and living a happy life. This stuff is great, when it rains your spray job becomes worthless but the granules get activated and take up the slack until you can get out there and spray again. (This also applies to the Cy-Kick, I give a good soaking to my side of any wall that I share with someone.)

** On safety and neighbors concerning steps 1 & 2:
With both of these pesticides I don't treat them as harmless. I wear rubber gloves when handling them and over time I have come to believe that I am using the products at responsible levels. I use a separate set of old clothes that I wear when I use them and the clothes stay sealed up in storage binds in the garage. I DO NOT use the granules in the common yard because I would not want my children seeing some little white chip and putting it in their mouths. I don't like pesticides but I also don't like my children getting stung but scorpions even more so I have found a happy medium.
On neighbors, I find it insane when people say "I have pets so I can't use that stuff". I love animals, but I don't get this comment your first thoughts should be your family, you and then your pets. Is the pet more important then something affecting your children? In the end if that's the reason you are not using something then you better not be making your backyard a safe haven for them by leaving debris out that attracts them.
You will also have the neighbor that says "I don't believe in pesticides for environmental reasons". That's fine but again, you better not be making a safe haven for them by leaving out debris that attracts them. Also ask these people about all the High Fructose Corn Syrup the put in their body.
This is another reason why you talk to your neighbors about the issue because you will find out where the critters are coming from. The funny thing is if they live next to me you better believe I'm spraying so they might as well also.

Which brings me to helpful tip number 3:
3. Look at the outside of your house and clean up any piled up rock or wood or crazy bushes. When I first moved into this house I had to move a big wood pile out to the alley in the middle of the day and I saw 4 or 5 scorpions scurry along the rocks. So clean this stuff up or make it less of a haven for them. Before you do this check your city's bulk trash pickup dates so you can time it so it doesn't sit in the alley for weeks which has the potential to attract them from your neighbors or even push them to a neighbor. My neighbors love to just throw stuff back there and it sits for a month which drives me nuts because then they complain about scorpions. Of course this is why you use the granules in the alley and also spray the alley side of the block fence, and give the shared walls a good soaking.
When you do remodeling or landscaping think about what would keep them out. Don't make it worse. To answer the lady asking about grass, you have scorpions and the only thing that will keep them at bay is if you spray and do the things Im writing about. In the last year I pulled up all the grass in the front yard because the previous owner piled up dirt 1.5 feet above the foundation and I had major bug and moisture problems. The moisture from the grass attracted bugs and the bugs attract scorpions so if you do grass I would do a small border of rock to separate it from the wall. I know that they were living in the wall so why bring the moisture up to the wall? As a guy said early in these posts if you take a wet cloth and cover the ground you will find them in the morning because they are attracted to the moisture. I am planning on extending our grass in the backyard in a couple of weeks and will use 2 foot border for this reason.

4. Buy a blacklight and search for the little buggers at night. I go out once a week and search all the cracks of the fence and around the whole house. Then I go down the alley and search the alley side of the neighbors fence. I just figure that when I find them down the alley it's one less that could come down and get into my yard. Plus you get to see which neighbors don't do anything to help. I was finding 15 or so every 2 hours when I first moved in and then after 3 months of using Cy-kick I have only seen maybe 8 total in the last two years in my yard or along my fence on both sides.

5. Seal up any openings to the house that they could crawl into. Now you can probably go too far here but I'm all about doing things so I don't have to worry about it. On old sliding windows like mine there are weep-holes that are just the right size for them to come right in. Take some metal aluminum tape and cover them up. Take off your vents and fill the cracks with spackling around where your duct work comes out and meets the drywall. You could probably use caulking for this also. I bought a roll of screen for $4.00 at Home Depot and in my daughters room I cut out a piece and taped it inside the duct work behind the vent using the aluminum tape. I don't know if they are in your duct work or not. For every person that says scorpions don't like it because it's cold or that good duct work should not have any way into it I can find you someone who said they've seen them come out of the vent. So for $4.00 I don't have to worry about it. We have a door to the outside in our bathroom that we never really use and when you look at the joints you can see daylight coming through. We plan on replacing the door when we start remodeling that bathroom but in the meantime I put up some packaging tape all around it. You don't notice it and it keeps the bad guys out. So we have scorpions, and one of the big things to remember to do is to keep your doors closed at night as you go in and out from the patio or grill and remember to close your windows before you go to bed. It sucks, I know, I would love to open them up all night and have the nice cool air come in but the reality is this just makes it easier for them to come in. Now with all the other things I've done I wouldn't freak out as much if I forgot and left them open but I still don't risk it. I lived in a townhome for 7 years before this house that was in the same scorpion area but I never had the problems that some of my neighbors had. I maybe saw them once or twice a year in the house. But for that place as I remodeled I pulled off baseboards and then reinforced the bottom of the drywall with extra screws to the studs and then caulked the gap between the floor and drywall. Then put up the baseboards and caulked the bottom of them. So the room was sealed as far as the spaces behind the baseboards. As I remodel this house Im doing the same thing.
Recently I just removed 9 inches of river rock from my backyard to make way for a larger patio by the pool and extending the grass. Just by doing that I know I have taken a huge haven for them. That river rock was nasty and a perfect home. This was 5 dump loads of rock and I sleep so much now knowing there is nothing there for them.
OK this is long enough I hope this helps anyone and again if you ever want to ask questions about what I did feel free to Email at:

Jchri66@hotmail.com

This is a secondary Email for me so forgive me if I dont respond right away. Bug and Weed Mart is where I get my supplies but Ive seen it cheaper online. Dont be afraid of the $60 price it lasts all year.


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

Hi,

My husband and I just moved to the Black Mountain area of Henderson NV after having lived in the general Henderson area for 3 years. We had never seen a scorpion until last night and my husband found one sitting on the wall. Unfortunately, we weren't able to kill it before it got into a crevice. I was able to get a photo of it though, for identification purposes.

Today we bought screening for the air vents (just in case), ordered some Cy-Kick, bought a black light and also some slippers to wear around the apartment so we don't step on one. Oh, I also bought some of that foam in a can to seal up the crevice where he went into. We sealed it up with heavy tape last night, but we are just trying to be sure.

I am including a link to the photo of the scorpion in hopes that someone can tell me what kind it is. I realize it isn't a very good photo, but I was only going to get so close to that thing!! If anyone has any ideas as to what type it is, your input would be greatly appreciated. Also, thanks for all of the information that has been posted here !!

Here is a link that might be useful: Scorpion found in our apartment


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

Hi, I live in North Scottsdale, AZ. I live on a main road with open desert across the street. I agree with sealing up everything and keeping scorpion food away. But what I do, regardless of the willies I get every time, is hunt for them at night. I duct taped a cheap black light to a pvc pipe and use it to find them. Then I kill them! I cannot step on them (the crunch is gross!) so I use a stilt with a rubber bottom to squash them. I have cats, but I hate to think of them being stung. I also found a wind scorpion (same family, but not a scorpion at all) outside my kitchen window the other day. Good to know they eat scorpions, I think I'll let it stay as my guest! I put a photo of one of the scorpions that I killed on my myspace page. You can see it in the black light. Good luck all!

Here is a link that might be useful: http://www.myspace.com/compatiblecanines


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

I didn't see this idea posted-if it has been already posted, my apologies in advance.

I've been a desert dweller for many years. Scorpions can be a huge problem some years!!!

I simply place a glue board (the kind used to catch mice) in the corner in every closet in the house. Since scorpions and sun spiders (and others) seem to like to follow the walls so to speak, they walk right into it, get stuck, and that's it. You would NOT believe the things that glue trap catches-what an eye opener!! I caught 3 kissing bugs last year-in my bedroom. I've been bitten once, I am terribly allergic to all insect stings-but this really seems to do the trick for me.

I don't use pesticides with the exception of a bug bomb under the house, spring and fall.

Just make sure you keep the closet doors closed at all times if you have pets-trying to get an entire glue board off of a cats tail with vegetable oil isn't a fun experience!


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

The French use lavender to deter scorpions as well as other aromatic plants. You might want to plant a bunch of these around your home. Mypetstreet.com wrote about this, as well as some other ideas for deterring bugs from a garden where pets live. You might want to also check this site out for info.
Best of luck to you. It can be frightening to think about a dog getting stung. I have been stung once and it was not pleasant!


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

A few thoughts:

1. Cats and dogs are rarely harmed by scorpion stings. They react much differently from humans. They may get nervous, sneeze a lot, paw at the sting site, etc but it is usually a minor issue that will go away quickly. there are exceptions, of course, and I do recommend calling your vet if your pet is stung, but there are VERY few documented cases of pets being killed by scorpions.

2. Spraying pytheroids like Cy-Kick or others is a very risky business around a home. I would NEVER do it inside. Ever. If you have to wear gloves to apply it, I would venture to say that it is not something I would want to spray around my kids or pets at any cost. Speaking from experience, these chemicals can be very irritating and not terribly effective. There are better answers, see below.

3. Sealing a house against scorpions is not very difficult. They come in looking for water and cooler air, so seal any and all air leaks around doors and windows. Scorpions cannot come in via A/C vents or plumbing - if you find them in sinks, tubs, or dropping from vents it is because they came in some other way and simply found what they were looking for. Bark scorpions are terrific climbers and aggressive hunters, which is why you will find them in your house. Scorpions can enter via very small spaces, so do a good job around doors and windows, and make sure your attic is properly screened as well.

4. I recommend using Best Yet for indoor spraying and PCO Choice for outdoors spraying. Both can be purchased from cedarcide.com. I am in no way affiliated with them, just a satisfied customer who has done a LOT of research and testing. These are the best products I have ever found, at any cost, and they are 100% completely harmless to people and pets. You can use Best Yet as an insect repellent. These products will kill scorpions (and other critters) and act as a long-lasting barrier against re-entry.


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

I live in SO.CAL., Canyon Country, not too far from Desert. All around me are canyons, open terrain. I have lots of mice, quails, cayotes, and other widelife.

Now and then I see a Scorpion about the house.

What I do is simple, I tend to lay Flat paper mouse GLUE traps against the baseboards through out the house. Away from CAT, in Areas where the cat won't get into. I buy the traps at at the Dollar Store, i think 3 or 5 per dollar.

These traps tend to catch many insects, lizards and scorpions. Once it even got a tarantula

Here is a link that might be useful: Last scorpion I caught


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ALCOHOL!!!!

I live in Henderson, Nevada. We've been really battling scorpions here at the house for the last two years... I just learned this one from our babysitter who said she'd read it on a website with other "useful facts". We tried it and it really does work to kill the occasional scorpion you might not want to get close to.

1. put 70% or better Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol (undiluted) in a squirt bottle, set the bottle to stream.

2. squirt scorpion or douse it with alcohol. This works great if you're across the room or yard and you don't want to get close enough to smash it.

****Scorpions react to the "heat" of the alcohol by going into convulsions (which appears to us to look like it is stinging itself- it in fact, is not) and then they die.****

I've become a bit of an Annie Oakley with a spray bottle, but it works well- I have dogs (Jack Russells) that like to pounce on bugs, so in order to keep them away from pouncing on the "little stingers" I have to be quick on the draw. It evaporates quickly and leaves only a tiny bit of residue- doesn't seem to harm much else, and though it does seem a bit cruel, it WORKS. Nice part is, it leaves no nasty insecticide residues behind.

We HAVE tried cedar oil in the house (also harmless) and it seems to drive them away, but DOES NOT APPEAR TO KILL THEM. If you like the smell of cedar, it is a rather pleasant way to keep them at bay (but it will not affect their numbers, so they WILL be back!).

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P.S. To the other Henderson residents on the forum- we just found our first TWO(!) at the house LAST NIGHT! Looks like it will be an early season!


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

I wanted to write this post because almost a year after encountering our scorpion roommates, we have successfully stopped their interaction with our family and felt this information should be shared. Last July my family (1 year old, 16 year old and dog) and I moved to Maricopa, Arizona. The house we bought seemed idyllic. However, after removing 3 rooms of carpet and 2 rooms of ceramic tile along with all baseboard, we discovered we had scorpions. At first we only saw one. Then after the wood floor was in and baseboards replaced we saw many, many, many more. It appears that before the remodeling they did not have an open freeway into the house however the baseboard on the wood was not sealed (was not sealed in previous house and never had a problem with scorpions or bugs) so now they had unlimited access points. We have found in our house or on our patio over 50 scorpions in less than 9 months. We found many babies which was even more frightening since they were difficult to see and it also indicated there were reproductive parents somewhere in our walls.

We had our house sprayed, "professionally sealed" (what a joke! Dont whatever you do hire Scorpion Specialist associated with Knockm Out Pest Control in Chandler, Arizona -- unprofessional, not guaranteed, and an absolute rip off) and I read numerous posts and other information on scorpions. The sealing is a must and what the Scorpion Specialist did for $1300 you can do yourself (Jchri66 recommended much of the same in his posting). After the "sealing by the specialist" we continued to find scorpions in our house. So, my husband and I re-sealed the baseboards ourselves and started doing our own pest control (we could do it more thoroughly and for less than the $90 a month we were being charged).

The two best things we did were have all the rock (1" granite) removed from around our house and back wall and place screen (nylon type used for windows) over the j-joints at the bottom of the outside wall. First, we advertised on Craigs List "free rock". We had all the rock removed and we have found very few (as in less than 4 on our backyard wall). Unfortunately, we continued to find them on our back patio. I remembered seeing somewhere to seal the openings (j-joint ?? I think it is called) at the bottom of your outside house wall. We were already certain they were in our house walls and that is why we found so many more in our house than we found outside. So we bought the netting and in a couple of hours sealed all of the holes at the base of our house wall. Now this was truly somewhat unsettling knowing we were sealing them in our house, however knowing they cant get into our living area and they cant get out they will eventually die. I wish I could say I feel sad about that. After this sealing we have not found any on our back patio (3 months) or in our back yard. Unfortunately, I found 8 dead ones in our front yard close to the wall. Now the holes (at the base of the wall) were sealed on the front as well as the back the only explanation was the 1" granite "touching" our house was providing habitat. Again, we advertised on Craigs List "free rock" the rock was removed 3 weeks ago and I have found ZERO scorpions in the front.

At this point we spray monthly with DEMAND (chemical) and only on the exterior of the house and occasionally the back wall. I feel very pleased and confident we have eliminated a great deal if not all the scorpions from our living areas. I truly believe the rock was providing habitat for the scorpions and that there is a massive infestation in our walls however by removing the habitat and preventing them from getting food and water they are not presently an issue. Good luck and thank you to all the posters for the many helpful ideas.

Any questions please feel free to email me at pollywiggl@yahoo.com please dont send any hate mail if you are a scorpion lover (I really didnt enjoy killing them as much as some of the other posters okay maybe I did a little)


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

We just bought a new built home in Queen Creek, AZ, which is south of Mesa. It sat empty for about a year before we purchased it. It sits on 1.25 acres and is, of course, in the desert. So far, we've found 2 scorpions in the house and several outside. Yesterday I had to water as my husband was sick so I was watering new trees we have planted. I saw a 6 inch scorpion that crawled out from under some large rocks that surround the tree I was watering. Freaked me out for sure! By the time I worked up the courage to get a rock to kill it, it had moved on and I couldn't find it. I hate these things. Both my daughter and son have been stung in the past.

We are about to start a mission to get rid of as many as possible and make our home as scorpion proof as we can in the desert. I appreciate all the ideas suggested here and we'll be giving a lot of them a try, particularly sealing the house. We have 3 dogs, two pekeingese and one large mix and are hoping the dogs are what is keeping those nasty critters out of the house. We haven't seen any inside in several months and the two we had we found in the same day after buying some stuff at a local yard sale. We think we may have brought them in with us and the stuff we purchased. We'll be careful of that in the future too.

I appreciate all the input!


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

Has anyone had any experience with an "Ultrasonic" device, like "Riddex"?

Please email me I'd like to hear from you, pro or con. Thanks!

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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

I have a dog...he just backs up when he sees one, his ears are kind of crooked, his eyes are piercing the little varmet, looks totally freaked out - so dogs are not the answer; we don't have cats; we don't have chickens - BUT - we do have area 51, don't know if that will help although it has scorched all appearance of life (wonder what they use). We have a lot of srubbery and plants...to darn lazy to do anything with them (tried stopping by a couple of home depots, but we couldn't understand each other, man did they flock to my car when I stopped - thought I was going to get mugged). So, what have I done? So far nothin, keep my eye pierced like my dog. I walk one step then stop and look then take my next step. Does anyone here know of someone who can come over and stuff my light fixtures and bomb my attic and stuff foam into the walls, and seal off my doors and windows...maybe someone who has chickens that will make a weekly trip to my place....I don't like these things! HELP!!!!!!!!!!! :-)


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

First I have a question on the chicken thing because I'll do anything at this point as you'll read later. Do the chickens have to be in the house all day?
OK I have a mess of scorpions that do not care where they are.
It started when I found a spider and a scorpion fighting in my bathroom and I recorded them and posted to my face book. I had a friend text me the spider was the poison one-so I had ordered these spider traps that have very sticky glue in them to determine what kind. Our area in the mountains had spiders webbing everywhere only to learn scorpions love to eat spiders-I wasn't sure which worse SCORPIANS ARE IN MY BOOK was. Well my traps became full of scorpions and I bought Wal-Mart spider spray that reads" Kills brown recluse and scorpions" not all sprays read this. It was the cheaper can as well $1.68. I sprayed the entire perimeter of the interior of my house and the next day my downstairs basement living area had 25 dead scorpions. I still have scorpions because they are still in traps and dead all around. I have no dog or cat. However I am willing to leave the chickens inside until I get home. How long do I have to keep the chickens and what to do with the chickens when scorpions are gone?


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

Brandy - Where do you live?

Start by caulking all outside cracks around windows, the base of the siding, vents, pipes, and door frames. Keeping them outside is easier than killing them inside.

Inside, caulk the baseboards, door frames, window frames and all areas where pipes and vents enter.

Reduce the attraction by reducing their food supply - cockroaches and crickets attract scorpions.

Get rid of their outdoor habitat: clutter, piles of lumber, etc.


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

I realize that this is an old thread now but thought I'd relate my experience with the critters. I had a great many scorpions on the property and some would show up in the house. I started using a portable 'blacklight' to find them after dark. They 'shine' with the blacklight, I'd zap them with a spray and go on. The first few nights I killed many. Each evening there were fewer and after about 8 or 9 days I didn't find any outside. This seemed to do the trick inside the house also. At first, I would spend 30 0r 40 minutes on the 'hunt' and it seemed worth it. Good luck.


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I too know this is an old thread but I thought I would share my experience. I have lived in Vegas for 6 years now and moved into a house by Jones & Cheyenne never saw a scorpion before except at a pet store or movies until I moved there. When I moved in the owner told me about the last tenants how they left it a mess and just left everything and moved out and asked me not to do the same thing, I thought it was strange but who knows what their story was. As I was moving in I saw a scorpion in the backyard and mentioned it to the owner who acted surprised so I thought it was just a freak thing. I called Swat co. and got them out there right away, and they said if I saw any bugs to call them, so I saw another one this time in the house so I called them back, next thing you know I was calling them back daily, they said they can't kill them unless they sprayed them directly, then they left these little things all over the house that looked like hot pocket covers which never caught anything except my 5 year old sons attention and my cats, he told me not to worry that their sting is just like a bee sting, and that no other company could guarantee to get rid of them. After seeing many more, I got tired of telling my son to always keep his shoes on (it was summer and hot) and not reach around stuff he can't see, but I had to let a boy be a boy and thought well if he got stung it would sting for a little bit and he would learn. I started what I thought was my own thing but after reading through the posts it's not that uncommon, My daughter and I called it "Scorpion Hunting" at night we found at least 10-15 everyday inside and out, so I thought the more I kill the less chance any one of us would get stung, but it was scary. They were everywhere inside, & outside, on the ceiling, next to my sons dresser, the walls, in the kitchen they are nasty little critters and can move very quickly. I'm a single mom and didn't know about the spray bottle alcohol thing so I got a can of hair spray and a lighter....gotta do what I gotta do.... I finally had enough because it seemed to take over my life everywhere I looked there was one, I felt like I was getting obsessed, so I decided to move out and break my lease. I had to save money to move & didn't pay rent that month so I could move, the owners came over furious and when I called the cops they made them leave and I showed them the can of scorpions I fried and found, funny thing cause he seamed surprised when I first moved in but he told the cops he was aware of them and that he knew they were everywhere but that I still owed the rent, the cops told him to get off the property and go to court. I had already found a place, went to court and explained to the judge the circumstances and she gave me more time, to go through my stuff, it felt funny bringing a bag of a bunch of fried scorpions to court.... The day I rented the uhaul I reached into my pantie drawer and for some reason I opened it further (who really cares what color panties your wearing when your moving right?) and then WHAM it felt like someone hammered a nail into my hand, I reached in to see if there was any broken wood slivers but found nothing sharp, thank God that nasty thing didn't get me again, because I woke my daughter up and told her I thought I was stung, she thought because of all the stress I was under I may have imagined it, until further examination, there he was we saw him slithering away but couldn't get him. I went to the hospital as a precaution, by then my hand was burning soooo bad and they said it would hurt for about 10 hours. It felt like a million needles and radiated all the way up to my shoulder and it burned too, my son touched my arm and it felt like fire, this lasted for 16 hours, I was rolling back n forth on the ground in pain, this was no bee sting (I've been stung by bees and wasps they are nothing compared to this scorpion sting, and I know pain I've have 4 kids) I showed a pic to the doctor at the hospital and he said it was a bark scorpion and they would have to go to the zoo to get the anti-venom if I had a serious reaction. After a couple hours I left the hospital and had to return the uhaul (waste of money) but even after 16 hours the pain was still there, but all of a sudden I felt like I couldn't breath and couldn't straighten my legs and started to cry for no reason (I almost never ever cry) and my toungue swelled up and it was hard to talk, I called the hospital and they told me to call poison control which I did and they suggested me to call 911, I guess I didn't because I didn't want to scare my kids anymore than they already were and we were in our new place, but I did stay up all night because I was too afraid to go to sleep and if it got worse while I was sleeping not be able to breathe, I couldn't think straight and felt very confused. The next day I had friends take apart my dresser which my late mother left me and of course I was going to keep but they found 4 more scorpions in there but not the one who stung me. So needless to say I left the house the same way the last tenants did, I left everything because I didn't want to bring the nasty critters to my new home and worry about it all over again, its a nightmare to live through, it is still sad to this day because there was some very sentimental things my mother left me but I was too afraid to look through the boxes. And it was really sad to see they had rented the place out within a couple weeks after I left, I stopped by to talk to the new tenants and warn them but they didn't speak English and couldn't understand me. I know there are a lot of different types of scorpions here cause we live in the desert but if you start seeing them around or in your home just make sure they are not the venomous bark scorpions, especially if you have small children. I feel the owners could have at the least warned me and gave me the opportunity to make that decision because I had a small child which it could have been deadly to him. I guess I really don't have any advise here except maybe before you go renting or buying a place, talk to the neighbors, do a "Scorpion Hunting" at night, or ask your future landlord to be Honest.... Cause I wouldn't wish that pain on anyone not even my worst enemy.... I've done my research and what I've found out is they come out and hunt at night, if you see them during the day they are lost and can't find their way back "home", and the bug companies spray can't kill them because unlike spiders and other insects they don't ever clean themselves to lick the insecticides off to ingest the poison, they say the powder is the only thing that works if they happen to cross it because it scratches their shell and dehydrates them to death, and they are not aggressive and only sting if provoked, they can live for 6 months to a year on one meal (so if you've left your stuff in storage and paid the fees for a year and feel it's safe to bring your stuff to your new home it may not be) they can live for 6 to 25 years, and mating season is in the spring which can produce 25 or more per scorpion, they also can't handle the cold but too bad it never gets cold long enough in Vegas to handle that problem.... Just be careful if you have small children or elderly persons living in your home its been almost two years since I was stung and it still seams like yesterday. I can barley remember my own kids birthdays but I will never forget the day I was stung May 16, 2009, I'm just kidding :-) and another funny thing is thank God I was stung on my hand because it definitely could have been a lot worse :-) Good luck too everyone who has to deal with these nasty scorpions, I pray I NEVER see one again....


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Just moved to Phoenix in Jan, rented a home in Chandler , now that it has warmed up have been seeing more scorpions, first in the garage then the side of the house, walking across the patio and now one crawling on the bedroom floor. I came from ND so these things freak me out called the exterminator and will try boric acid, but I have killed them with a bottle of 409 lemon all purpose cleaner, just incase you want to try this.


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PLEASE SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW TO RID SCORPIONS, MOST ARE LITTLE BITTY BABY ONES AND A BIG ONE EVER ONCE IN A WHILE BUT MOSTLY IN OUR DAUGHTER'S ROOM, OUR HOUSE IS JUST ABOUT 5 YEARS OLD NO ONE HAS THIS PROBLEM BUT US, I HAVE A BOXER WITH HUGH ALLERGYS AND WORRIED HE AND DAUGHTER WILL GET BITTEN AND SUFFER PROBLEMS, WE ARE IN N. TEXAS, HOW DO WE GET RID OF THEM. WHY ? FROM TIME TO TIME WE SEE THEM MOSTLY WHEN IT STARS GETTING WARM AND HOT HERE... HELP !!!!! SCARED IN TEXAS >>>> THANK YOU


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

I love all the stupid responses. Move! That's the only solution. I've had them in both my homes in Summerlin. Nothing works except to kill them as they come.


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I wanted to explain three items that are commonly incorrect.

1. Poisonous = you ingest and get sick or die.. Or as I learned 'you bite it'
2. Venomous = it injects venom. Or, 'it bites you'.
Example: a rattlesnake is venomous as it will bite you and inject venom.

Many biologist get this incorrect on TV and drives me nuts.

3. Using oil based pest control is one way to kill scorpions, as their bellies
rub the surface and is softer able to absorb chemical.

Sorry for the rant, just educating.


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1. Scorpions don't bite, they sting.
2. If you live or have moved into an area where scorpions live, you are the intruder. They were there first.
3. There are no "deadly" scorpions in the U.S. Yes their sting is very uncomfortable but it's not fatal.
Why all the freak out and fear? Just scoop them up in a dust pan and gently deposit them outside. Scorpions play a vital role in our natural world. I have family, pets and have lived and gardened in a "scorpion zone" for years. You really have to work at to get stung.
Respect them as you would other life. Why not learn about them? They're quite interesting little creatures.


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I live in vegas in the NW.. I was stung on my right foot (driving foot) it swelled fast and did not stop swelling, it felt like someone shot my foot.. I've had a lot of painfull things in life and this makes the top of my list. Me and the scorpion took a trip to ER (we thought the dr. Should see the type of scorpion that got me) Dr. Said it is very rare but some can kill you.. I never had a fear for these guys till I got stung.. I wish I could get a chicken because that seems like the way to go but I live in a city and not on a farm LOL..


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black scorpions

I have an old rented house in Istanbul Turkey. In past 2 weeks 4 scorpions,,,all black about 3 inches including tail. I am worried about family, now we don't move around barefeet.....I plan to use BORIC acid as recommended by many above,,,,is that going to work....Moreover how poisonous are these black ones...does anybody know? As for comments above I am confused about the chickens...wd they not be contaminated themselves..I mean their eggs with venom?


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This was scary. We live west of Phoenix on the western edge of Litchfield Park. It was night and I was standing in front of the john relieving myself when a large scorpion dropped from the ceiling vent fan and missed my head by on fractions of an inch. This critter landed in the bowl and just hung there motionless in the water. I thought it was dead until I flushed the john and it attached itself to side of the toilet bowl and wouldn't let go and it wouldn't go down. It took 3 flushes before it could no longer hang on to the sides and finally went bye-bye. Man, that thing was big, about 4 inches long. And to think it could have landed on my head. That critter would have hung there for a long time when I think about how difficult it was to flush down the drain.


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Everyone is entitled to their opinion I listened to yours now you listen to mine. I am not a violent person but mmgirl I'd like to slap some sense in to you after reading your post. Want to know what all the freak out is all about. It is almost 1am and I can't sleep want to know why? About a week ago I was sleeping and got stung on the hand I was in pain for two days only after 24 hours was the pain somewhat tolerable. And you want me to "gently deposit it outside" I would have shot it with a cannon had I had one handy. Do you still think that I worked at it to get stung I was sleeping for crying out loud.

Tonight I was watching tv in my bed and yep once again a scorpion was on my thigh this time. You have got to be kidding me thinking I would remove it gently and place it outside. Should I share a glass of wine before or after it bites me once again?

They may play a vital role in our natural world but if it hurts me or mine I hurt it and theirs nevermind the natural world and them being interesting.

This is all out war, I am taking advice of one of the previous posters and going out tomorrow morning getting a butane torch and a black light and if it moves it's dead be it an ant, cockaroach, cricket I don't care it is dead.

By the way I never even kill daddy long leg spiders when they are in my house I relocate them that goes to show you I don't go out of my way to disturb nature until now.

I'll let you know how it goes, may even have a scorpion scavenger hunt, think of all the satisfaction I'll get exterminating that which caused me great pain. I am only thankful it didn't get one of my pets.


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After reading all the posts, I feel like a complete wimp, but am going to do my best to get rid of them anyway. The scorpions in my house are maybe 1/2 to 1 inch in length. They seem to live on the ceiling in corners - curled up in a ball - thought it was a hole at first - and since I had just painted was not happy about the hole. Sometimes I think I would have preferred the hole LOL! Have now found 3 of them in a 2 week period, as well as 2 centipedes, so it is war now,. Thanks for the advice, I plan to have all the potenial entrances into the house sealed and the outside sprayed. Don't like any animals in the house, cats dogs, or chickens, so will have to get rid of the food supply :) I will miss the lizards that live out front!


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August 2011 I bought some diatomaceous Earth (food grade)at ACE Hardware for 25$ for 50 pounds. I use it with a duster behind washer, dishwasher, refrigerator, cracks in garage floors and garage crevaces. Also all around outside of home and in where ground meters... are. Next day I used in attic. There is still 45 pounds left and no scorpions. The bathroom exhaust fans were covered with filters from home depot for $3. I have no scorpions. Also dusted where dead floral debris is outside. Note: wear a mask and gloves. DE is natural but don't breath the dust in. You can also do windowsills and make sure lights above anywhere you have a faucet is plugged (in the attic) those critters have a @#$% sense when it comes to water nearby.


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Great stories, here is mine. We called a friend who is an exterminator, he came over one night and dusted all cracks, joints in the frame and foundation, columns in our block wall fence, and any other area he suspected scorpions would live. This took him about 10 mins to cover the outside and garage. This dust he told me, not only kills but also forced the scorpions out of their hiding place. While he did his initial dusting he found 6 which he collected and placed on a glue board. He then power sprayed the yard and garage with another chemical that would finish the job and allow to linger on the property, fence, and walls for another month or so pending rain.

I have 3 kids under 8 years old so I did not want them to be stung so I asked if there was anything else I needed to do. He recommended doing a scorpion hunt every couple of days. He told me the issue is not my house. We have been exterminating for a year and there are no bug. The issue is my backyard fence backs up to a retirement facility and over the fence is a retention are with bushes and rocks, a perfect home for scorpions. My neighbors and I who back up to this retention area all have scorpion issues.

Since I have been using my buddies exterminating co. (Lights Out Exterminating, Owner is Jason tell him Roger sent you) and doing a hunt once in a while I have seen no scorpions in the house and only a couple out on the fence wall next to the retention area every other hunt. The frequency use to be 3 to 4 a hunt. I use to see them also in the block wall directly next to my home and in the bushes outside of my bedroom window but now no more, just on the fence next to the retention area. One of these day I will talk to someone in charge of that facility and have them be more proactive in that area. They probably don't know they are causing us issues on this side of the fence. I use a can of scorpion killer from Ace Hardware, it's only $6 and all you need to do is shoot the scorpion once, don't drown him in it. I've had the same can for 4 months. I hear any petroleum based spray will work. Anything to seep in between their armor. This will either kill them strait or they go crazy and sting themselves for lack of a better analogy. Also, be sure to also buy a black light with at least 30 LEDs. Anything less is not bright enough in my opinion.

One other thing I've done was to make sure there were no air gaps in all the door jams and where pluming enter the home, ie. sinks, toilet, laundry, water heater, and water softener. The scorpions in the heat of the summer would scene cool air drafting from tiny cracks and under doors and I hear that is why they end up in the home. I replaced or fixed the door jams and foam sprayed the inside and outside pluming. I'm guessing this is reversed in the winter time, too.

Maybe I missed it in the other posts but do Geckos eat scorpions? I have never seen them actually eating one but I have live in AZ for 14 years and normally the geckos are scrawny and only about 3" long. In this house they are 6" and plump. I use to see them all over. I found one caught in a glue board recently in my garage, it was sad, he was still alive. I tried to get him off, he was huge but he was a goner. There numbers seem to be diminishing since the scorpion population has decreased. I hope this will help some of you. If you are using an exterminator and he only comes out and sprays during the day and it doesn't seem to be helping give Jason a call. He comes out at night when the scorpions are out. He will also educate you and take the time to completely access your issue. The other exterminators I used in the past never identified the retention area and this is were I find them all of the time now.


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  • Posted by djfx 11a (My Page) on
    Sat, Feb 25, 12 at 20:02

Okay I'll throw my hat in with an adventurous solution if anyone is up to it.

There is a Gecko called the Tokay Gecko that will eat just about anything. A friend of mine had a cockroach problem in his appartment so I recomended he try a Tokay Gecko. He got one from a pet store let him loose and soon his appartment was totally pest free!
after a few months the Gecko showed up on the floor one morning looking hungry so my friend captuered him put him in a small terrarium and he has had a great pet for many years now (he now feeds him crickets).

In many tropical countries the geckos are considered good luck and are welcome in the house because they eat scorpions and large centepedes! The Tokay Gecko is one of the biggest (5"-8")and most aggressive Geckos and is nocturnal. He will eat all the pests in your house! It will stay in warm areas of your home like behinde a fridge all day and hunt at night.

But they are not friendly and dont like attention and will bite if you try to hold them.

Many pet stores will take geckos back if the gecko life doesn't suit you. and that's probably the "greenest" pest control method you can find ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokay_gecko

dj


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I moved to the Phoenix area about a year ago and into a house that was infested with scorpions and giant roaches. I knew from a previous experience, living in Texas, that poisons were not a good solution. At least not a permanent one and I didn't want to poison my family or my dog. Since I knew that oils from plants were good bug repellants I mixed up a couple quarts of water with about ten drops each of lavender, mint, cedar, geranium and clove essential oils along with a few drops of dish detergent. It has to be real essential oil. I sprayed it along the base boards, where pipes came into the house and around doors and window sills, inside and out. The roaches and scorpions disappeared for about two weeks so I sprayed again and then again after about a month. That was about 8 months ago and I haven't seen a roach or a scorpion. I don't think the spray kills them but the bugs seem to hate it. I never see anything in my house, not even a spider (no spider webs either). The geckos don't come in the house anymore either. As a proactive measure, I'm going to spray again soon since spring is around the corner. I am assuming the oil spray works because it rids the house of the scorpions food supply so they stay outside where there are things for them to eat. I don't care why it works, it just does, and without having to worry about subjecting my family to poison. Insects are beneficial and I don't mind them in the yard, they just need to stay where they belong, which is not in my house.


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Black lights work great! We have fun with it. We get a metal container cause they can't seen to crawl out, then we let them kill each other! The ones that survive usually die soon after when left out in the sun. However some can live for quite sometime even without water. Chickens and some other birds such as peacocks and turkeys can help keep them away. You have to have enough for the property though. We recently had to put 2 of ours down and are starting to see a couple scorpions so purchased 2 turkeys to help out. As far as the diatematious? Earth, it is not toxic. It I actually great for fleas and flies also. You can put it in dog food and it will help keep fleas off the dogs and flies away from their feces. It is safe to put around it the yard even with animals. Scorpions are attracted to wood piles. I have found if you have a fireplace or use a wood burning grill it is best to stack wood somewhere away from the house. Try to keep the peremeter of the house clear of clutter. Rake leaves around house, especially under bushes, and use rocks rather than wood chips in flower gardens.


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

Hello, someone claims they killed scorps regularly with 70% IPA rubbing alcohol.

We are moving into a home where I have killed (outside) more than a dozen scorps on a 1/10th acre lot. mostly by blacklighting. the Terro spray from Lowe's does work. Rubbing alchohol only irritates them. Case in point: I found one in the water meter box and grabbed him with a sticky trap(glue board) I folded the glue board and stuck it and him to a post right next to my sleeping chicken who I left in the backyard to scratch temporarily. I sprayed him multiple times last night with 70% Isopropyl Alchohol.... on his belly (because his backside was stuck to the trap. I even stabbed him in the belly with knife so some guts came out. Next morning he was still there but wiggled his legs when touched. I moved him to a wall where the chicken was scratching in gravel... THEN the hen saw his legs move and had her "hors d'ourves" snack. The chickens would not respond to it at night with blacklight illumination nor with white lite illumination. Even though they some used to jump down off thier roosts and go after roaches in the coop when I caught em in open by turning on the light... Maybe if I had picked up scorp with tongs and placed it in front of hens letting it crawl away, they prolly wouldve gone after it but alas, it was already stuck to a glue board and was not gonna come off that in one piece.

Glue boards, caulking, Delta dust into crevices where service plumbing and electrical goes behind false walls of cupboards yet... Delta Dust is a pro product but can order online. lasts eight months can stand to get wet(returns to effective dust after drying-- rather than dissolving) but I wouldnt use it under fridge or anywhere pets can sniff it out and into lungs... Good luck


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

This blog is the best I've read and has the most info. Here's my 2 cents. We've lived in east Mesa, AZ only 3 months, and have gotten 70+ scorpions. I too hate the little critters.
Bunk to people who say "gently release them." You will just compound the problem. I've come to look at them as "roach-wasps" because I'm creeped out by how they look. We've sprayed, but poisons don't seem to work. I've sprayed them with alcohol, but that seems to take about two days. I put borax around the house perimeter, but can't be certain if it works, we haven't found any live ones in the house. We put glue boards in the garage, and have caught quite a few that way. We regularly hunt with a black light, this is the surest method, and put them in a glass jar to die in the sun. Always KILL them! They are as prolific as roaches, and roaches and scorpions were found to survive at ground zero of nuclear bomb test sights! We have grass, and they seem to be around it, so I am having all sod removed. I believe it is the moisture and bugs in it they like. If you haven't seen a scorpion, you haven't looked. Also GET YOUR NEIGHBORS ON BOARD! That's my next project, since I'm the newbie. There is a website that shows scorpion volumes in the Phoenix metro area with red circles, but I caution you about the data - it is just what is reported by exterminators, so if there has not been extermination it wouldn't show up - it is incomplete data. Also a few blogs talk about how many are inside. If they are inside, there are more outside. You MUST go outside and hunt them! I've read that lavendar and rosemary act as repellants, so I am going to try to plant some. Same with wild onion. I'm going to get some cedar oil for inside the house. Our seller's disclosure just said they had seen a few outside - not sure if they just didn't know, or didn't want to know! But if you don't control them they will get out of control! Just like anything... So, you must fight them, diligently. Get a black light and do it. Our first night we got about 20, and steadily it has declined, after twelve weeks we are down to about 2 per week. If you have them in your house, I think you will be stunned when you go outside at night to see what/where the real problem is. Fight/Kill, Fight/kill! You wouldn't protect a roach, would you? Roaches, ants and scorpions will all outlive us. Have no mercy! they don't have any mercy on you.... Oh, and remember, they supposedly hibernate in winter, so make sure you stay on your issue for a full year. I dread getting stung as I have terrible allergies. But I feel better about what we have accomplished in just three months, and I have steadily reduced my fear. All thanks to this blog. Thanks for all the input, and Good Luck!


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions

See www.pestborders.com finally a safe way to fully prevent scorpions and other insects from entering your home and yard


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

Just want to put in a good word for scorpions. I have lived in the Texas Hill Country outside of Austin for fifteen years. We have a lot of scorpions but not the poisonous kind.
THEY EAT COCKROACHES. Also they eat young giant north american centipedes which we also have and are more poisonous. So, I often don't even put them out. We don't have cockroaches and we don't use chemicals or anything. That is unusual in the south.
I have been stung about ten times in fifteen years but only once did it hurt longer than a few minutes (tip of thumb from scorpion in my gardening glove)..It's usually not even as bad as a bee sting...


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getting rid of scorpions

we just bought an older home and began remodeling. it wasn't long before we started seeing a scorpion here and there in the house. just before actually moving in we thought it would be a good idea to get a black light and check the outside of the house to see if we could find a couple and kill them before they could find their way in. what we found was we had a HUGE problem. our yard and block wall was infested with them. the first night my fianc killed about 2 dozen using a blow torch and that was just on the ground. but with the dry weather it was not a good idea. so I started doing internet research. I found some really helpful information. I ordered a chemical called CY Kick on line. he sprayed 47 of those buggers, the problem with that is it takes about 24 hours to kill them. but the thing that works best we found out by accident. We were spraying for the bugs that feed the scorpions using Raid wasp and hornet spray and sprayed a scorpion that happened to be the way. it killed it immediately!! so tonight my fianc armed with his black light and a can of Raid went back out to the yard and sprayed everything that glowed. tonight's count was about was WAY too many for me but a lot less than 47. but what did surprise us was we found some with babies on their backs and we didn't know they bred this late in the year. I've lived in AZ for 30 years and this is the first time I've had scorpions inside or even saw them outside. I got stung a couple weeks ago and that was not fun. I'm going to buy a case of Raid!


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

I'm in the mountains east of San Diego and I swear on live in vector central. My main problem are black widow spiders, but I regularly find and dispatch scorpions with extreme prejudice. The land is a citrus grove that backs to an open space preserve, so there is nature for scores of acres in almost every direction. Doesn't help that the landscaping around the house is overgrown and rife with rocks and dead leaves. My landlord lives on the same parcel and likes the way things are (read: is too cheap to do anything about the mess) so I am left to my own devices when it comes to killing nasty bugs. At first, there didn't seem to be very many benign bugs and the evil, poisonous ones had pretty much taken over. I truly believe the problem had been compounded by my landlord's willy-nilly approach to spraying pesticides that killed the lizards and frogs and toads and any good bugs that might have helped balance the local insect population. I have literally killed dozens of black widows in a single night. Fortunately, through dint of considerable effort and perseverance, I sense the tide may be shifting

Since scorpions and black widows are active at night, that's when I hunt. I go out most evenings - the later the better, as it gives more of the creepy crawlies a chance to get out and about where I can spot them. My weapon of choice is a small butane canister attached to a long hose that comes with a handheld, click-start torch on the end. I bought the whole thing as a kit at Home Depot for about $70 - I think it is used for soldering plumbing connections, but it makes an ideal bug killer. I really like the torch as a method of vector control - it's possible to hone in on a very small area and specific threat, there is no pesticide residue and when I kill something, I KNOW it's dead. I have even gotten good at flaming suspicious-looking cracks just enough to flush out anything that might be lurking within and find it works very well for vaporizing spider webs.

I tuck the tank under my left arm, put a small, but very bright, led flashlight (and/or blacklight flashlight) in my left hand and wield the click-start torch end with my right. I've gotten very proficient at spotting - and neutralizing - any threat around the perimeter of my house including anything on the walls, patios or out on the driveway. On nights where we have been lucky enough to have had a soaking rain, I'll extend my hunt further out in the yard and surrounding areas where it is typically too dry and dangerous to be running around with an unshielded flame thrower. Sometimes, too, I'll just lug a bucket of water around with me as insurance to douse any accidental flare ups.

I've been at this for a number of months now and I truly believe I am making a dent in the local populations of both spiders and scorpions. I rarely ever find anything inside the house anymore and very little outside. I've gotten to the point where I'll turn on all the patio lights just to lure the bastards in so I can kill them. On a positive note, now that I have nixed the pesticide spraying, I've noticed an uptick in the preying mantis population along with the occasional wind scorpion and even a lizard or two. I used to kill the wind scorpions as well, until I researched them and found they were essentially harmless and good bug hunters. Unless I find them in the house - then all pretense of civility evaporates and they - as are all others - are at the mercy of The Shoe.


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

OMG, you are loaded for bear ... errr, make that scorpion ... aren't you? LOL!

My problem was living in Puerto Rico - CENTIPEDES.

Not the little skinny ones that hide in cracks and crevices. These are big enough to carry off your cat, and have to be killed with a machete - a very big, thick HEAVY machete wielded by someone with considerable strength and verve.

I hated the centipedes. They could be hiding ANYWHERE and a sting could make you very sick, and could kill cats, dogs, pets, and sometimes small children or elderly or ill people. Not to be messed with or tolerated in your home, I assure you.

Here is a link that might be useful: This is the MINI size


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

I had a friend tell me that brake cleaner, the kind that comes in a spray can from your auto parts store to clean rotors and brake pads., kills scorpions and black widows. I have had several chances to try it out on both black widows which one short burst the spider was dead within 15 seconds. On scorpions they start stinging themselves and within 30 seconds they are dead. It works better then any spider killer spray that I have used. My other method is going out at night with 36" grabbers I bought at Home Depot to pick them up with and hold on the ground while I step on them, or cut them in half with a knife if sticking out of cracks. My black light was ordered and it's much more powerful then any lights I bought locally and cost $42.57. You just keep going out a few times each night and it may take a while and they will be gone and as stated above remove their food source first. For inside the home I use Tom Cat Scorpion Traps. I have never had a scorpion in my home however my sister has and that is where I go to hunt them.


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

I understand that this isn't a solution for everybody, but I've read through this whole thread and am surprised that nobody has mentioned it. Let a kingsnake or two loose in your back yard. They eat all sorts of vermin and will stay away from you. We had chickens for a few years (city girls, they wouldn't even eat a slug- wiped their beaks on the grass after one peck, so they were useless for bug control) and the mice moved in en masse, enjoying the chicken feed.. One night my husband was grilling and called me outside- big old escaped pet kingsnake was coiled up near the grill. It wasn't a kind that's native to here- bright red, white, and black- and we let him be. That kingsnake completely cleaned the mice out of the yard, and then disappeared as quietly as it came in. And they'll eat scorpions.


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

Sadly they will also eat chicks and eggs. But you can probably snake-proof your chicken coop if you're serious about it. The thing is they might still get in during the day - which wouldn't be a problem normally because wild kuntry chickens think that's Meals on Wheels. But with your dainty ladies, could be an issue.


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RE: Help get rid of Scorpions - have dogs

I'm thinking of moving to Vegas. We're teachers and are gone all day. My dogs are trained to use a doggy door, which works well for all of us. I'm worried that scorpions and doggy doors may not be a good mix. What do you all think?


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