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Posted by luvtosharedivs 5a WI (My Page) on Tue, Apr 28, 09 at 19:58
| Sue, some time ago, you had asked for a close up view of 'Red Rascal'. I took a photo of the mass planting a few days ago, hoping that the winds and heavy rains would die down so I could snap a close-up in natural light.
That just ain't happenin'.
These fierce winds come around every year, ripping the heck out of my blooms. I decided to cut a few of the less damaged ones, and brought them inside for a photo shoot, so you can see them close-up.
Here's a section of the mass planting:
Here's the bouquet. The color of the one in the center is washed out because of the flash. You can see the rims of the cups are red-orange. It's interesting to see a whole clump of them and how some are more redish, while some cups have barely any color at all (on the rim, I mean.) A few of the cups are almost all yellow...I wonder if some of them revert back to some ancestor. You can see in the following photo how the edges of the cups vary from bloom to bloom.
I have oooooooodles of them, so if you ever want some bulbs, I'd be happy to ship them to you.
Julie |
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RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Excellent photos, Jule! Is that a plowed field on the left in the first photo? Looks like a muddy field but I can't make it out. Pretty flowers. Kt |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Thanks, Kt. Yes, that's a plowed field to the left, and yes, it's very muddy. In fact, if I walk along the edge of the lawn, close to the field, I hear "squish, squish" under my feet. We have saturated grounds all around, even in the high spots. I've been out weeding around the edges of my gardens, and pull out dandelions, getting muddy gloves in the process. I don't dare walk through my gardens now, for fear of compacting the soil. Lots of minor flooding around here...small creeks have overflowed, and some county roads are still closed because of high water. Grass is growing like mad, but can't mow it...ground too squishy. Julie |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Squish, squish...ah yes...I remember those days... |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Yes, THAT'S IT, THAT'S IT! Hmmm I thought I had asked you a while back what the name was, and you said you couldn't remember. Yes, I NEED SOME!!! How do you do yours, or have you ever traded any? I was told by a local daff 'expert' to wait until six weeks after the bloom is well faded to dig them. Then spread them out to dry (in a shaded area) airy place for several days. Then store in a cool dry place. Then come mid Sept, we could trade them.
Are there any Red Rascals in this bouquet maybe? I love the bouquet you sent me...for my birthday, wasn't it? I'd like maybe 2 Dz of them, if you don't mind to trade that many. I will have to figure out what daffs I have an abundance of to trade...if'n you want daffs in trade. I know I have a lot of Mrs r. O. Backhouse, the original pink daff, and Orange Phoenix that I just got a name on this year...bulbs would be smaller so would send more than one for one...or species poeticicus (var Poeticus) or Jetfire, or tete-atete. I would have others in smaller quantities of maybe 3-6 bulbs per cultivar. |
Here is a link that might be useful: The 2 year saga to find the name on Orange Phoenix
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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How do you do yours, or have you ever traded any? I've never traded daffs before, so you'll most likely be the first! So I should dig them late June, huh? Make sure you remind me then, lest I forget. Yes, I think those are 'Red Rascal' in the top of the bouquet pic I sent you for your BD. Two dozen will be easy to send you. I already have lots of species poeticicus and Jetfire and teteatete. It's getting late, so I'll read the Orange Phoenix link tomorrow. I do like the doubles, but unfortunately with the winds we have around here, they are the first to topple over. So if you have an abundance of some that aren't doubles, I'd prefer them. Julie |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Orange Phoenix is an early double one. I will likely have 6 (or so) Tripartite bulbs
Wonder why that pic above was not clickable....hmmm....
Well, it looks like I can't post a bigger pic of it...sigh. It is very late and one of my favorites. You probably have Mount Hood...right? It is another one I will be digging and dividing, putting some in different places to try and get some blooms from them at different times. Might have some Geranium, if I remember to go mark them...there is a clump in the front yard woods with no label, as the doggies tend to just destroy the labels out there. |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Stayed home from work today, since my virus has taken a turn for the worse...and has moved from my nose to my throat...can hardly talk...no fever though. I read your Orange Phoenix link, and am happy for you that you were able to identify it. Did some research and found it is hardy from zones 5b-8. I'm 5a, so I might be pushing the zones just a tad. But since you have so many of them, I'd be willing to try half-a-dozen of them. The Tripartite blooms are lovely...yes, I'd take some of those, since they're hardy to Z3. No, I don't have Mount Hood, and that would work well here, another one hardy to Z3. I don't need Geraniums...have plenty of those. I'll make a note on my June calendar to get those 'Rascals' dug for you. Julie |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Sounds good...You did not mention Mrs R O Backhouse...the original pink daff. Need it? |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Sure, you can throw in a few of those too, if you have enough to share! So, maybe: 6 Mrs. RO Backhouse, 6 Orange Phoenix 6 Mount Hood 6 Tripartite Or any combination of those. And feel free to remind me to dig up a couple dozen 'Rascals' mid-late June:) Julie |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Late, late June would be best in your case...it should be 6 weeks after the bloom is well faded away. Will yours maybe be in bloom until mid May? Sue...all excited! I 'might' find some others too, and 'might' need more than 2 DZ if you don't mind. |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Just moving this up as a reminder to myself to start digging 'Red Rascal' bulbs in another week & a half or so. |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Sue, you have mail. Julie |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| It's amazing how well Daffs/Narcissi multiply. Originally, I planted 5-7 bulbs in each hole. Now, a few years later, those few bulbs have increased to about 50/each hole! I dug all bulbs from one hole, set four of them back, and have 47 bulbs "curing" under an overcast sky. Most of them are doubles and triples. They're all yours, Sue...I'll ship them in the Fall:)
Julie |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Goodie goodie gumdrops! I still have not dug any daffs here yet, and really need to mark some that are in rows in the woods b4 all sign of the foliage is gone...sigh...maybe later today. Gotta get some plants together this AM to go out today. I hope they make it to OH by Sat. A member mailed me a plant last week from OH and it took 3 days. Is that pathetic or what? One can never count on a package arriving in a day or two, or even 3 regardless of where it is mailed from. Off to answer your email now. As you may have noticed I have not been on near as much lately. My energy level has been better lately and I have been able to focus on things better too. I'm beginning to see a little headway being made outside...finally, after getting so far behind digging the star of beth for months. |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Sue, are the Red Rascals all planted yet? Julie |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Those bulbs look like shrunken heads I saw once in the amazon. Ke |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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| Hi Julie, Man, I haven't been over 'here' in a while...been busy planting you know. I'm sure several of them have been planted as I shared them with several folks and gave some away too. Who really needs 50 of one bulb cultivar??? I intend to plant 2 small clumps (3 bulbs each) in the area where I am planting all of the Holland Bred daffs, as well as doing some naturalizing with them like you have. I've got all my named daffs sorted and on spreadsheets Historics, Intermediates-I'll bet you are not familiar with those English bred Iris bred Holland bred New Zealand bred Australian bred. US early US mid season US late US very late. All together there will be well over 258 plantings...some with as few as 1 bulb and others up to about 6 bulbs because they are smaller bulbs and a smaller cultivar. I took 2 baggies of 3 bulbs for the swap table at the ADS Midwest regional meeting in Oct. I gave 3 to my local daff friend Helen and another IN Daff Soc member. I shared some with GW friends in PA, KY, TX, AR, and NY. I traded some with members in NC and VA. Those are the ones I remember anyway. I just counted and have 23 left...some are smaller (broken off from the main big bulb), but others are still 2 nice sized bulbs attached (that I counted as a single bulb. I think I might make a trade post at the Plant Exchange, and see who might bite. Would you mind if I would use your bouquet pic above? I wonder if I could maybe get some allium, oriental lilies, or some hyacinths for them. Hopefully I will have some nice blooms to take to a show in the spring. There will be a photographer there who takes pics for Daffseek. At this time there are no pics of Red Rascal on Daffseek, so possibly a bloom of mine might end up there later in 2010. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Red Rascal at Daffseek
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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Ke, You've been to the Amazon?!?!? Sue, ...been busy planting you know. I know you've been planting, but GOOD GRAVEY...258 plantings!!! You certainly are a daffyholic! I had no idea what an heirloom/vintage cultival 'Red Rascal' is. I believe in keeping those old cultivars going & growing (I've been collecting heirloom daylilies, too.) By all means feel free to use my photo. Glad you are able to share the RRs with other daff collectors. Never knew there were so many divisions of daff bulbs, bred in different parts of the world. Iris bred Did you mean to type 'Irish' bred? Mass/naturalized plantings look spectacular. In my future gardening endeavors, I'd like to do more plantings of groups and patches of same-cultivar/varieties of plants, as found in nature. Maybe in another decade or two, if I last that long, I'll finally know what I'm doing as a gardener. You must be planting bulbs in your dreams:) Be sure and post some of those gorgeous daff pics next Spring. Julie |
RE: Narcissi 'Red Rascal'
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You certainly are a daffyholic! Yes, I have it bad. Late last night I was already getting together my daff wish list, if and when Brent and Becky's have their 1/2 off sale sometime after Thanksgiving. I started a list of everything I 'need' so I can tell at a glance what to order when the sale time starts. I know they will sell out of several things between now and then and that they will get OUT of STOCK on things pretty fast once the sale starts. I had no idea what an heirloom/vintage cultival 'Red Rascal' is. I believe in keeping those old cultivars going & growing (I've been collecting heirloom daylilies, too.) RR is an older daff but not old enough to be registered as a historic. I'm not positive, but I think the historic cut off date might be 1940. Historics are very popular in the daff world, with several ADS awards just for them. By all means feel free to use my photo. Thanks...if I get some things accomplished (and maybe if I don't) and have a weak moment, I 'may' make a trade post. I'm pretty certain I couldn't trade them for daffs I don't have, but possibly I could get some other interesting bulbs. Did you mean to type 'Irish' bred? Yes. I'd like to do more plantings of groups and patches of same-cultivar/varieties of plants, as found in nature. I've got some rows of daffs (each row is a different cultivar) and they are needing dug and divided badly. I'm thinking sometime I will do away with those rows entirely and use the bulbs for naturalizing different places on the property. You must be planting bulbs in your dreams:) No, not yet. No planting yesterday due to rain, and today is not looking good either. Of course I can always clean something inside here, so I can play outside when things are better waetherwise. Sue...off to accomplish 'something'. |
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