Return to the Growing Tomatoes Forum | Post a Follow-Up

 o
Potting mix for tomatoes

Posted by lakedeyes NC (My Page) on
Sat, Feb 22, 14 at 15:06

Is this a reasonable mix for a 15 gallon root pouch :
1. 1/3 peat
2. 1/3 Miracle Grow Garden Soil
3. 1/3 Perlite
4. 1/3 cup dolomite lime
5. 1/3 cup epsom salt
6. 2 cups Azomite
7. 5 cups Tomato Tone
8. 5 cups ( 16 Oz. ) worm castings

This post was edited by lakedeyes on Sat, Feb 22, 14 at 16:04


Follow-Up Postings:

 o
RE: Potting mix for tomatoes

  • Posted by digdirt 6b-7a North AR (My Page) on
    Sat, Feb 22, 14 at 15:17

1) I would never use MG Garden Soil in ANY container. Says not to right on the bag and it compacts badly just like dirt does..

2) Have you checked out the many discussions about good container mixes over on the Container gardening forum? Worth reading for lots of good info on 5-1-1 mix.

3) Nothing wrong with peat or perlite in the proper proportions.

4) Azomite - use the label instructions for container size. Too much is worse than too little.

5) That much Tomato Tone + worm castings up front will get you lots of big bushy plants with little fruit set. Fertilizers in containers have to be staged throughout the growing season since the nutrients leach out every time you water. So an upfront heavy loading only stresses the young plants, triggers heavy leaf growth, and then gradually washes out.

6) Same with epsom salts. I like using them, many don't, but watering with them in a diluted form throughout the season is much more effective than any up front load is.

Hope this is of help.

Dave


 o
RE: Potting mix for tomatoes

Thanks , Dave , for your feedback . Espoma recommends
1.25 cups of TT per 8 QTS. of mix , unless I read the instructions wrong . Will the worm castings hurt ? Gotcha on the MG .


 o
RE: Potting mix for tomatoes

There are several options for potting soil :

-- ready bagged: MG, Fafard, Promix ...
-- "mix-your-own: 5-1-1 and its variations. This is basically a "BARK _ BASED" mix , with 70% pine/fir bark fines, 15% peat moss and 15% perlite. Then you add lime and fertilizer.

For more reading you can go to "Container Gardening" forum. I highly recommend it.


 o
RE: Potting mix for tomatoes

Another point is that potting soil for tomatoes is no different from that of peppers, eggplants , etc. Potting mix is just a MEDIUMS. The companies that bag and market them, add nutrients to them, for the convenience of the consumer. So, when you mix your own SOIL-LESS mix, you have to add the needed nutrients and balance its pH. That is why using 5-1-1 needs some education and experience, while a newbie can use a MC product without any problem, but then he/she has to pay extra for the "tv-dinner" convenience feature. .


 o
RE: Potting mix for tomatoes

My nightshade family plants (tomatoes, eggplant and peppers) all HATE Miracle Grow mixes. They like the blue stuff just fine but those mixes they HATE (shaking leaves in shudders). I use Metromix 360 and feed Miracle Grow and Epsom salts after a good soaking every 2 weeks. 1t MG and 1T Epsom salts in 1 gallon of water about an hour or so after a deep watering. I also reuse potting mix by upending on a tarp - top in first and bottom on top. Earthworms are always present and they go in the middle. This year I plant to have a water garden in a 300gallon galvinized trough and will use fish poop from that in the garden when I change the water by a 1/3 every month or so.


 o
RE: Potting mix for tomatoes

Growing tomatoes organically, in a container can be very difficult. Tomatoes tend to be heavy feeders and organic ferts are not directly available in the same way that synthetics could be. Organics must first be broken down by microbial colonies that are present in dirt and are largely absent in sterile potting mix. Those who grow successfully in containers generally use various specialty products to introduce and maintain those microbes.


 o Post a Follow-Up

Please Note: Only registered members are able to post messages to this forum.

    If you are a member, please log in.

    If you aren't yet a member, join now!


Return to the Growing Tomatoes Forum

Information about Posting

  • You must be logged in to post a message. Once you are logged in, a posting window will appear at the bottom of the messages. If you are not a member, please register for an account.
  • Please review our Rules of Play before posting.
  • Posting is a two-step process. Once you have composed your message, you will be taken to the preview page. You will then have a chance to review your post, make changes and upload photos.
  • After posting your message, you may need to refresh the forum page in order to see it.
  • Before posting copyrighted material, please read about Copyright and Fair Use.
  • We have a strict no-advertising policy!
  • If you would like to practice posting or uploading photos, please visit our Test forum.
  • If you need assistance, please Contact Us and we will be happy to help.


Learn more about in-text links on this page here