Chuck

All places selling it say about two ounces and high yielding and refer to Italy
and I threw up a bunch of links showing that some places say pink, others red, some say a point at the blossom end, others not, some say tough skins, others don't say that b'c they are selling seeds.

I've grown it as I also commented and found the skins to be tough, the taste not all that great, and Tania and others also say best for sauce, canning, but not fresh eating.

I can't transfer here any threads from another message site to here, not just me, anyone, as most of you know, but I can put a link below to a Google search for it.

Carolyn, who doesn't know the other variety you mentioned and didn't search for it.

I think Joe Lauerer came from the same source as Terhune. At least that's what I recall. It is also called German Egg sometimes. It, too, is no great shakes for taste, but two years ago when I had a really, really bad tomato year it was the only plant that kept going, so it endeared itself to me. Also, one of the grankids and his mother liked it a lot. They didn't have a lot to compare it with as that was the only plant I gave them, but as Grandpa I am required to listen to the kiddies. This year they will get at least those two plants and probably a Sungold.

Chuck