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Its possible you got the black cherry seeds from me in a large swap a few months back. I can tell you that black cherry got huge in my garden last year, over 5 foot tall and was loaded with tomatoes. In all probability you could grow one per 5 gallon bucket. As for the variety of Tommy Toes, that I haven't got a clue about, but I'm sure someone here will speak up on it. Wait til you taste those black cherry's, you are in for a real treat.
Alberta

I have 4 Black Cherry going this year. All already topped 5 feet by a couple of inches and are just now ripening the first fruit cluster. I figure by end of July it will be in the neighborhood of 7-8 feet but I will just let them drape back down over the cages.

Got an idea for planting for you to consider. Depends on how many you want to plant. Instead of making a whole new bed - much of which would not be planted, just paths. How about getting 5 gallon buckets, cut the bottom out of them, pick-ax spots just a bit bigger around than the buckets and set the potting mix filled buckets on the dirt. That way the plants can make their own way down into the ground as needed. Drive a tall stake on each side of the bucket to stabilize them and the bucket, tied off to them, won't tip.

It isn't ideal but alot less work than making a whole new bed and better than trying to keep it all contained within the bucket itself.

Worth considering?

Dave

Your black cherry will get massive. I am in FL and planted a bit late for down here (mid april). My black cherry is now well over 8 feet and shows no signs of slowing down. I have a cluster of tomatoes on it that I will need a ladder to pick. I have had to give up on controlling it's growth and am now letting it grow back down the cage. I am scared to see what this thing will look like by the fall.

Excellent idea Dave!! I think I'll go outside and start planning. We're in a heatwave right now. I think I'll get things prepared but plant when temps are a bit back to normal in a few days. We went from 70's to 90's overnight.

I can't wait to try these tomatoes!!

Black Cherry is huge. Tommy Toe I haven't grown, but I understand it is a very small determinant. Two very different types of plant!

Give the Black Cherry a lot of room on all sides and prune some of the early suckers to keep it from getting too large. It will turn into a big, ropy, octopus if you don't keep an eye on it. (A very TASTY octopus).

Doof

Tommy Toe is not a determinate but an indeterminate. From Tomato Growers Supply: Tommy Toe #5710 (30 seeds) $2.45

Round to slightly elongated-shaped cherry tomato is bright red and prolific with excellent flavor and plenty of juice. This variety practically grows itself, resisting most diseases and setting loads of fruit. Great for salads and can even be used for juice. Australian Heirloom. Indeterminate. 70 days.

It grows 7-8 feet tall.

Both are big plants. When I grew both the same year, Tommy Toe was even bigger and more prolific than Black Cherry. Both are wonderful -- my favorite two cherry tomatoes!

I planted them along the top of my stone wall coming up my driveway. I was planning on filling the bed with zinnia but the tomatoes took priority.

They will not have ideal "full sun" conditions but they've got a better chance on the stone wall than in a plastic cup!

And they taste better than zinnias do too!! ;)

Dave

I like the 5 gal bucket idea for the best flexibility. Even given lots of space I could see myself always keeping many plants in 5 gal containers. I did put 2 inches of rock on the bottom with holes 1 inch from the on the side.
My favorite aspect of this is they can be started in a green house and moved outside as is with no transplant.
You may even able to go in ground somewhat and just use large holes which would allow you to pull the up and rotate the soil. If you are getting soil born disease, yank the container and put the soil in black plastic garbage bags and heat it up on the drive way during the summer months and rotate back into the containers with new compost.
If your native soil is that bad it will not help your plants any how.

I am so completely impressed by this mountain garden operation it has inspired me to do the same. It then simply occurred to me this year that I can start these in a portable green house.

http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Garden/Garden2007_6.htm

BIG SIGH.
All this talk about black cherry. . .it was the only one that I lost due to complete stupidity on my part. I now have to wait a whole year before I can attempt another seedling. . .

I'm feeling ya on the more rocks than soil issue! I created this new quick bed on 5/13. No way is it pretty but will work for this year. I spent 3 hours with a pitchfork and on my hands and knees pulling out rocks. Then I worked in some bagged cow manure and made one long hill to plant in. I covered with black plastic to start warming the soil and kill any more potential sunflower and/or weed seedlings. Then on 5/17 I planted out and folded up the plastic and just laid it back down in between the plants. I kinda like this mound ID for the trenches that were created in the process for watering purposes:D

Sorry mitanoff about your black cherry. Just what did you do to cause such dismay? I'm having a heck of a time getting them to respond to normal growing conditions myself. I think they'll behave eventually but they grow slowly and appear very delicate. They get leggy in the quest for light yet respond badly to hardening off. We've both heard how wonderful they are and it would be great if we could get a successful harvest; just to try them out.

I am growing chocolate cherry and it is amazing!

Black Cherry in back on the right, topping the bamboo poles:

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Inside that jungle were lots of tomatoes:

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jbann23:
Well, if you saw my other post re. "the most pathetic tomato", my black cherry was one of those. I didn't harden off my seedlings properly and although most of the plants did eventually survive (Thank heavens for dismal days and lots of rain