Very informative. Good luck man!

Ug that's heartbreaking. Here's hoping some of the semi-green tomato plants are savable.

Good luck with the replant in any case - hopefully you'll be one step ahead of the little nasties this time.

Just finished my first spraying this evening, after the bees had left for the night. Did half the plants with Azatrol, and the other half with Take Down. Also, split the PepperTainers in half, with each group getting sprayed. I'm hoping the Take Down will be as effective as the Azatrol, as it is $1.00 per ounce, while the Azatrol is $4.00 per ounce.

Don't feel too bad, this was the haul today from the unaffected plants:

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I'll post some photos in a few days to document effectiveness of the two products.

Raybo

Raybo,

Wow, I never realized you had windows with curtains and I'm sorry to be able to see them. Please do post a follow-up with the results of your pest control trials. I was decimated by spidermites last year. So this year, before setting the plants outside, I sprayed the heck out of the garden area (even the walls of the house) with Permethrin. I've been pretty much pest-free - so far.... You might want to consider blasting the area with Permethrin before you set out your second crop.

-JoAnne

Oof, I hope you don't have any neighborhood cats that patrol your yard. If I was sure that I didn't, I might actually go that route, but since I'm a cat owner, and have definitely seen some of the neighborhood kitties roaming around, I refuse to use anything that will kill them. I want dead bugs, not dead kitties, but if forced to choose, the cats would be safe, the bugs would live and the plants would die.

Don't know if is any cheaper, but it always worked for me when I used to spray(I haven't had to in quite a few years, knock on wood) was to used horticultural oil and insecticidal soap. Got room for one more test area? lol.
Remy

I've decided to not use Permethrin in the general plant area, as the concern of someone who I've given tomatoes to gets sick, then shame on me.

Having said that, I am going to put Permethrin in a sprayer with a wand attachment, and drizzle it into the crevice where the house foundation meets the dirt. While I have seen cats "patrolling" along our fence-line, I am certain this approach will not put any cats in harm's way.

I have been examining the plants today after last night's spraying of Azatrol and Knock Down, and I'm not seeing any movement under a magnifying glass. Doesn't mean anything re: the eggs, but so far, the "mobile" bugs are not appearing. Will keep all updated.

Raybo

I have tried Pyola. It's the same ingredients in the same concentration as your Take Down spray. It worked pretty good on mites, whitelies and aphids. But I had two spotted mites and have no idea how it would perfom on the russet ones. For the past few years green lacewings have worked so well I needn't spray any more Pyola. Unfortunately, Pyola does not work against stinkbugs...:(

I also am interested in your results...

Spaghetina, I don't really have a yard, I have half an acre, but live on one of the many steep hillsides here in the Bay Area. I grow in containers on a deck (on stilts) that is 10-50 feet above ground, with the height depending on the front versus back of the house. The only animals on my deck are unwanted (essentially rats and squirrels and the occasional deer, although I have now blocked off their entrance). If I blast the deck (particularly in the crevices along the edge of the house) with Permethrin, and then bring out my plants in containers I don't see a problem as there is no contact between the plants and the deck. But perhaps I'm missing something???

Does Pyola hurt cats?

Any updates on this one? I was recommended a combination of "Take Down" and "Organocide" to combat a spider mite problem that I have on my tomatoes. The treatment was to start with Take Down for 3-4 days in a row and then switch to Organocide once per week. I'm only on my 2nd week but I'm still seeing spider mites and have resorted to spraying the plants with the hose as well. I'm hoping to see some progress soon!

Ocean,

I am sold on Take Down Garden Spray, as it did control Psyllids and mites in my Fall garden. In fact, I am still harvesting tomatoes on January 24 in N. California.

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Raybo

That's great to hear! I guess the next question is how often did you apply and at what strength?

Raybo,

Did you have any phytotoxicity with the 'Take Down Spray'? I'm currently alternating Aza with 'Take Down'. We will have 90's and 100's temps for next few weeks and 'Take Down' has a phyto warning.

Thanks,
DL

Raybo,

Did you have any phytotoxicity with the 'Take Down Spray'? I'm currently alternating Aza with 'Take Down'. We will have 90's and 100's temps for next few weeks and 'Take Down' has a phyto warning.

Thanks,
DL

Would it burn the plants if I sprayed the take down the day after spraying azatrol?