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Are these seeds stable?

Posted by growneat (My Page) on
Mon, Sep 30, 13 at 12:51

Carolyn, you probably know the answer to this question, so please help me out. Others help me as well. In 2006 a fellow named Lyons grew a hybrid tomato seed in Canada. It produced a tomato weighing 4.59 pounds. He gave seed from this tomato to a grower named Capatano, an F2 seed, and he grew a 3.9 pound tomato. Capatano gave seed from this tomato, now an F3, to Brandt Timm in Ontarion, Canada, who grew a 5.8 pound tomato from it. Timm gave some seed from this tomato which produced a 5.4 pound tomato to a grower in France named Fabrice Boudyo who grew a 5.07 pound tomato from the seed he received. The next year Boudyo grew a 4.78 pound tomato from his own seed from the 5.07. The next year he grew three tomatoes over 6 pounds from his 5.07 and 5.03 tomato seeds. As I calculate it he is now at F8 from the original seed which by the way was, sorry Carolyn, Big Zac. My question is, "Should the newer seeds now be considered pretty much stable?"


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RE: Are these seeds stable?

Stable for size maybe IF size was the only genetic characteristic that was important and if most of the fruit on the vine was of similar size and weight. One fruit of that size on a plant with all the others different? No.

But does that mean that it is still Big Zac? No way.

Dave


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RE: Are these seeds stable?

Some of the people growing these seeds are now calling them Bigger Zac. As the records of what came from where and growers naming their new seeds after themselves, it is becoming impossible to tell what came from where. I have been growing some of these plants and I must say they continue to look like BZ tomatowise although some of the plants themselves are smaller with smaller root systems. It is interesting. There are seeds now that seem to be stabilized with nice plants and big tomatoes and solid records of what came from where but this is looking like the exception rather than the rule. Pumpkin growers who are growing these Big Zac offshoots are not bothering to keep good records and so the future of these seeds is not all that clear to me. Very confusing and probably not of much interest to most.


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RE: Are these seeds stable?

So, if these seeds came from tomatoes that were selected for size then the seeds are stable for size? I had thought most seeds would be fairly stable by F5? Am I wrong?


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