"It is only the growing conditions of both mother plant and cuttings' plants that figure, so that a rooted side shoot from a lanky or stubby plant of a basically true OP can turn out anywhere between stubby and lanky."

I surfed around looking for some science or authoritative basis to confirm this assumption, but couldn't find anything. Anyone who has rooted a lot of side shoots for OP's that give the impression of having variation in plant size beyond how you cultivated them, does my assumption seem ok, or is there a definite tendency of, for example some varieties that have variation in plant size, a stouter plant's side shoots to produce stout plants from its cuttings?

Another question is whether that means it isn't stable, but I'd like to ignore that question to ask about the experience of others. I am assuming the plants had adequate and comparable light as seedlings and just grew differently by something random ;-)

PC

I don't know why. Probably it's my techniques, which tend towards the lazy and casual.

Maybe for yours it is that side shoot cuttings/clones need more light than seedlings? I've noticed that in mine, that when seedlings develop they need low light, but with the rootings I did as soon as they rooted they basically needed full Sun (Probably 75% AZ Sun LOL).

I asked because I am starting to really think that some seeds, even from the same isolated blossom get the short or compact end of the genetic stick while others get the vigorous one. Leggy is a little different the way I think about it, it's mainly light related . I haven't propogated many cuttings but some get stout, though I blast them with light. I lose half of them because I don't monitor the bulb closely enough (Daylength is too short now to just use Sun) and they get mummify where they touch it, which is a bummer since those are the biggest leaves to get moving down the line.

PC

I've only taken cuttings of suckers, best known as lateral branches, from plants already in the ground that got damaged by critters or yanked out when my farmer friends hired man was cultivating.

I just take one lateral branch, jam it in the ground next to the damaged plant, make a wee moat around it and keep it filled with water until I see new growth,

And what grows and forms a new plant has always been identical to the plant habit of the damaged plant, not leggy, not lanky. After all, what's being done is cloning so I wouldn 't expect to see differences

My season is too short to take cuttings for Fall plants.

Carolyn