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| Now that the season is done and pretty much everything has been harvested, I figure it's a good time to ask this. For a lot of us in Western PA, this was not a great year for tomatoes. But, as with anything else, I'm sure that some did better than others. I'm curious of those who live in this area might mind posting what all they grew, what did well, what didn't. And, if possible, how it compared to previous years if you've grown it before? This year, I grew everything from seed and everything in raised beds. All were grown for the first time as previously I just bought plants from the box stores. I grew 4th of July, Cherokee Purple, Mortgage Lifter, Super Sioux, Bush Steak, Bush Ace (heirloom), Better Bush (I think that was it) and Roma Grande. Of all of those, the ones that did the best were the 4th of July and Roma Grande. The 4th of July started to ripen toward the end of July and produced into September. The Roma Grande started to ripen a few weeks later and continued to late September. Both produced heavily. The Cherokee Purple didn't do too badly. I don't typically expect heavy production off of heirlooms like that. So, I wasn't disappointed, I guess. Nothing ripened on those until late August. Managed to get a few off of each up through the beginning of October, though they needed to finishing ripening indoors at that point. Mortgage lifter (don't know which one) and Super Sioux did terribly. As did most of the bush tomatoes. Except for the better bush, which did decent, I guess. Not nearly as well as I'd hoped, though. Next year, I will grow the 4th of July, Roma Grande and Cherokee Purple again. I don't see myself growing any of the others and will probably opt for more varieties that produce earlier. I'd like to try some that are more cold tolerant, but am not sure how some of them do if we start returning to the hotter summers. Also, on a related note, the Roma Grande seed is from Burpee. I haven't found it from any other company and it's not even listed on their website. I saw a brief discussion about it on here from a while back speculating that the Roma Grande and Rio Grande are the same tomato. Does anybody know if that's true? |
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| Your post has been up for awhile and it looks like not many growers in Western PA are online here. I have a friend in Western PA who, among other thing, grows giants. She had a mediocre year due to bad weather. None of her tomatoes did really well though she did get tomatoes. They came later in the season and were smaller than usual. She worked very hard on her tomatoes and had a season filled with disappointment. She is taking the Winter off and planning for next year. Sorry not more growers responded to your lengthy and thoughtful post but I believe many of the posters here are getting ready for other ventures now (Thanksgiving and Xmas) and taking the cold months off. I am in Central PA and my year was not so great either. |
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| lubadub, Thanks for the response. I did have a couple of replies in one of the other threads, though not really western PA specific. I've been talking with a local grower that I bought some ghost pepper plants from. He sells and grows a large variety of tomato and pepper plants. I bought some tomatoes for canning from him in September and he said that once he has a chance to go through his notes, it will allow him to start planning for next season and he'll let me know what he had that did well and what didn't. Right now, my plan is to focus a little bit more on early season tomatoes as well as some cool climate varieties. Hoping to find a couple that do well in cooler areas but don't mind a little heat if the weather next summer manages to reverse itself. |
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- Posted by bmoser z6PA (b2m2@moserproduce.com) on Sun, Nov 9, 14 at 13:29
| Like Lubadub I'm in central PA but I have difficulty responding to your post since I thought this was a good tomato season and I can't define a single variety of over 280 that I've grown this year that was not worth giving another try. There are a few hybrids and a few heirloom varieties that I really admire but nothing stands out as a failure. If you want any tomato to harvest before August you just need to plant earlier. I planted most of my tomatoes in high tunnels by late March and was harvesting by late May. I'm still picking although the majority of fruits I've picked lately are for the green tomato market. I'll likely pick for 2 more weeks and then call it quits. Didn't grow 4th of July this year but it was always one of the first (and last) to pick. That size tomato is just not a great seller for me. I'd probably like to try it again next year and mix fruits in with the BumbleBee series from Johnny's Seeds. I believe it would help to show those better in a display. Since you commented on Ghost peppers I will comment that they did not do well this year for me and from comments of a few people who bought plants from me they were not doing well for others. Larger fruited hot peppers and sweet peppers did well though. I'm still picking (from under fabric) and sales are going well. I guess in summary I'll admit that this was a cooler and wetter year than normal but I have little to complain about. I believe I'll aim to have another high tunnel in operation by next spring and possibly plant a few more heirloom varieties that don't have the typical hybrid appearance (Mortgage lifter just looks like another red tomato). |
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| A high tunnel is the next best thing to a greenhouse. You can protect your plants from cold weather and wetter than you would like to have weather. The problem with a high tunnel is cost for the home gardener. Also they can get pretty warm in July and August in our climate. I thought about getting one but then decided the most I might consider doing is shade cloth for the hot times. This will not protect me from cold and wet though. |
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| I'm in SE MI and cannot afford or have room for a high tunnel, or greenhous. I would love either, both would be even better! So i bought a cheap cold frame. This really worked well. I was able to get a jump start on my plants. All pretty much yielded well. So you might want to try a cold frame. You can make one. Those old wooden house windows make awesome cold frames. I bought a cheap plastic one but it worked really well. Under 100 dollars. My peppers were in there too. I'm now usng it for lettuce extending the season. It gave me about 20 degrees more heat. So when it was 40 degrees outside in the spring it was 60 degrees in the cold frame. I did bring them in at night. It also got the hardening off process underway. I used a fan indoors, so the transition was extremely smooth once they were planted out. The were sun exposed for a month, and wind exposed, so i took a few days just to see how they reacted outside before transplant. Seemed fine! I will always use the cold frame from now on! An excellent small investment. My first ripe fruits were at the end of June. By the end of July the fruits were flying off the plants. |
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| bmoser, I was the one that planted the ghost peppers. I put in 4 plants. Two of them produced fairly well (I guess they did, anyway. Got more than enough for my needs, at least) and two didn't. I think I might have planted them a bit too close together. Not sure. I have been contemplating high tunnels for next season to get an earlier jump on things. Considering that we had nights as late as July that were in the low 50s, though, I'm not sure if it would have mattered this year or not. Other than my jalapeno and Thai, most of my hot peppers did really well this year. Habs came on late but ended up producing well. As did my banana peppers. Cayenne's did outstanding. AS did a hot lemon pepper that I was given. Ended up with over a half peck of those little things from one single plant. I did two varieties of bell peppers. Neither did well. The cold nights were just terrible for them, I think. |
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- Posted by bmoser z6PA (b2m2@moserproduce.com) on Mon, Nov 10, 14 at 6:54
| Tjin, Your experiences seem in line with ours in Central PA. I don't know how close you are to Valencia but the king family have a sizable produce opperation there (Harvest Valley Farm) and Dave and Art, friends of mine, would be good contacts to compare various growing conditions. They grow using various technologies and methods. I believe they currently have around 400 CSA customers and a store so they are quite extensive in crops grown in their western PA operation. |
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| A monastery near where I live has built a huge high tunnel near their gardens. The master gardeners have a large outdoor garden nearby, They grow all kinds of vegetables and flowers in their garden and I will be watching closely to see what goes on in the high tunnel which I would estimate is about 40 feet wide and maybe 100 feet long and maybe even bigger, I had no measuring tape with me when I saw it. |
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| I'm not in PA, but chilly Canada. I started my tomatoes from seed at the end of March and had a very good growing year. I would definitely suggest that you try some early varieties like Bloody Butcher, Stupice or Matina. I LOVE Cherokee Purple but I read on the forums that Indian Stripe is just as good, but more productive, so I tried growing it this year and it is my new favourite! Other good ones were Anna Russian, a pink heart, Eva Purple Ball, a pink, and Black Early. Linda |
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| bmoser, not too far from Valencia at all. Probably 45 min to an hour, maybe. It might be a tad closer than the place I got my Ghost peppers from (Started from Seed Greenhouse in back of New Brighton). Never hurts to get a good variety of opinions and info. labradors, I've read a little about the Indian Stripes. I might give those a try next year. Bloody Butcher and anna Russians are actually both on my short list for ones to add next year. Was considering the Matina as well. The others you mentioned, I've heard of but haven't looked into them. Will definitely do that. |
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