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Seedless grape tomatoes

Posted by lakemayor 4 (My Page) on
Sun, Nov 15, 09 at 11:33

We were in Florida last week and went to a flea market where they were selling seedless grape tomatoes. They were smaller than any grape tomatoes we have ever seen. They flavor was wonderful? Does anyone know what variety these are and were to purchase?

Also, a few years ago I had a salad that had tiny little tomatoes in it and I asked what they were and I was told that they were "cranberry tomatoes". Has anyone heard of them?


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RE: Seedless grape tomatoes

I don't know of any grape tomatoes that are seedless, unless someone had grown them by spraying them with Blossom Set, which induces what's called parthenocarpy and the fruits are pretty much seedless.

But I'm pretty sure the wee tomatoes you referred to are one of the many what's called Currant tomatoes.

There are many varieties such as Red and Yellow Currants, Wild Texas, Sara's Galapagos ( probably a stable interspecied cross) my favorite, and many many more.

Currant tomatoes are in the genus and species Solanum pimpinellifolium while our garden tomatoes are in the genus and species S. Lycopersicon and there are some tiny fruited varieties that are in that species as well, such as Coyote, Matt's Wild and others.

Carolyn


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RE: Seedless grape tomatoes

Carolyn- thank you very much!! So- would we search, for ordering purposes, by the genus and species you have listed along with the type (Sara's Galapagos,etc)? We have also heard these referred to as "cranberry tomatoes. They would also be apprpopriate for zones 4/5 (Southern Michigan)I take it?


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RE: Seedless grape tomatoes//

No, you wouldn't search for them by genus and species, you's search by variety name.

Just go to some of the following sites and you'll find them:

Sandhillpreservation.com, for Sara's Galapagos, Coyote, etc.

tomatogrowers.com, for the standard red and yellow currants as I recall

seedsavers.org for several other named currants that are IDed as being currants in the blurbs that accompany the pictures

rareseeds.com, I think has some, I didn't check

So that should be enough for you to look at I think.

You can always go to the Tomato seed exchange here, the link is at the top of this first page, just above the first thread on the right, and post there as well if you wish.

I'm curious though. Were the grape tomatoes you bought and took home the same as most all other grape tomatoes as to size and shape and yet there were no seeds at all?

Carolyn


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RE: Seedless grape tomatoes

Go to "Tomato Casual " seedless tomato


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RE: Seedless grape tomatoes

Carolyn- they were 1/2 the size or even a little less but were similar shaped with no seeds whatsoever that I could find.


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RE: Seedless grape tomatoes

Go to "Tomato Casual " seedless tomato

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I did and what they're talking about is Burpee's Sweet Seedless, which they refer to, which is not a cherry tomato and which does have seeds and is discussed extensivley in that other thread whose title I now forget but I think it's still on this first opage and Lake posted in that one as well looking for a seedless cherry tomato.

At another site someone showed a picture of slices and there was no problem seeing the seeds.

But a seedless grape tomato; other than fruits induced via parthenocapry I don't know about. Perhaps someone here will know more.

Carolyn


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RE: Seedless grape tomatoes

if you are a seed saver I have heard that currants can easily cross with otheraters - Carolyn any info on that?


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RE: Seedless grape tomatoes

It used to be thought that currants would cross easily, with any other tomatoes, not just each other, but it turns out that not all currants have an exerted stigma, which is why they have to be pollinated by insects.

Ketih Mueller, who posts here has said that he's more worried about his regular garden tomatoes crossing currants and has also said that perhaps 50% don't have exerted stigmas.

Since I don't take the time to check each currant variety I tend to play it safe and grow them away from others.

Sara's Galapagos, for instance, is probably not a true currant according to Dr, Chatelet at UC Davis, b;c knowing the specific island it came from he told me that it's probably an interspecies stable cross.

And I know other growers who have grown currants along side thie other tomatoes and saved seed hasn't shown an abnormal amount of crossing.

But thise are just anecdotal remarks and I think it's up to each person to experiment a bit if they are seed savers; otherwise there's no problem.

Carolyn


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RE: Seedless grape tomatoes

its probably just a catchy name someone applied to sell them

likely just another grape tomato variation derived from the Santa grape tomato

Coyote


 
 

 

 


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