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Montana Zone 3 4 5

Posted by mtbigfigh 10 So Cal (My Page) on
Mon, Nov 9, 09 at 14:12

In a few years will be moving to Montana - does anyone have tomato experience and variety suggestions for this area or zones? other veggies too?
Thanks
Dennis
mtbigfish@earthlink.net


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RE: Montana Zone 3 4 5

Greenhouse, grow lights and any variety developed in Canada?

http://gardenguide.montana.edu/mgardener/mgardenerindex.asp

I remember neighbors peas, green beans, all kinds of lettuce, cabbage ... asparagus, rhubarb too. All the "cool season" stuff thrives there.


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Hi Dennis,

I grew up in Montana, and my aunt still lives and gardens there. She's about where Wheatland, Sweet Grass and Golden Valley counties come together -- somewhere between 4A and 4B, with LOTS of wind thrown in. She has a fabulous garden every year (puts mine to shame, but that isn't tough to do) that includes corn, squash (generally acorn, buttercup, pumpkin, etc.), tomatoes and peppers as well as the cool season-type crops. Though she starts things like tomatoes and peppers (and sometimes squash/cucumbers) in the greenhouse, everything later goes out to fend for itself. She uses black plastic under the squash, tomatoes and peppers and plants squash/cucumbers in tires. With regard to tomatoes, she had a bumper crop of Pineapple this year, but I notice she tends to hedge her bets with a good selection of earlier varieties. I think she'd be lost if she couldn't can at least 50 quarts a year. HTH and good luck.


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pineapple and that is usually a 90+ dtm - does she have frost covers and hoops in case of those "anytime" snows?


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Nothing fancy for the anytime frosts and snows. If she's expecting frost, she might throw old quilts/tarps over the tender things. Of course, the wind can undo the best-laid defense. A surprise frost (seems it was about the 18th or 24th of June) took out her first round of squash this year. She just replanted and got a load of big pumpkins and whatnot anyway.

There's a wide variation in growing regions. Do you have an idea of what area you might choose to live? I grew up in Helena, and later moved to Darby (at the southern end of the Bitterroot Valley). In Helena, I mainly remember my mother's carrots and corn. After she died, I moved to Darby to live with the aunt I've been discussing above. The Bitterroot is kind of the "banana belt" of Montana (~5A, I believe). I think the Flathead region may be as well. In the Bitterroot, my aunt REALLY, REALLY gardened. When she moved east, she still had roughly the same elevation (~3,500') but not nearly as mild a climate (nor the water) and has had to adapt. My other Montana aunt lives outside Wisdom in the Big Hole Valley (~60 miles from Darby) but is at +6,000'. She basically expects frost any day of the year but still manages a few tomatoes in addition to her cool-season veggies. Inverted fish tanks make great cold frames :)


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I just got back on the internet today and saw your post. Ive lived in Montana almost 3 years and it was trial and error at 1st. Im in Butte where it seems to have cooler summer evenings than most places in the state (45 in August) Early varieties do best, like those from siberia and canada as well a many of Andrey from Belarus varieties he sent me. Also all the Mountain and Subarctic series do well. I cover the later season varieties to protect them tho so I still get great harvests from them. Some of the no fail varieties I have grown every year since I moved here is cherry=alstons everylasting, Orangy yellow=Azoychka, I also grow yearly county agent, and dinner plate from sandhill for an ok taste but huge fruit for sammiches,and I fell in loe with Dora and she produced well for me. Thats just a quickie of my list A-D email me if you want a more extensive list and before you move out here I will be happy to send some seeds to you to get you started on your new climate of gardening


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I live in northwestern MT, flathead Cty. Anything with a shorter than 75 days or so will thrive here. I grow 30 or so tomatoes (started in greenhouse) and hundreds of peppers. Grow some of everything else too. Just have to watch the weather reports zealously all of June. Had snow and freezing temps mid June the last two years. So covering everything and using black plastic under plants, are what I do here in MT. I'm always looking for ways to extend the season.


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I live in Orange County Calif now but within 5 yrs going to MT - below is thread to another persons list of tomatoes for 2010 of which I added my list of cool climate tomato seeds I have grown - take a look and see if you have experience with any?
Have you ever grown North Country - a tomato that is supposed to have originated in Montana?

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/tomato/msg1200511326811.html?6


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Mtbigfigh,
I've never grown North Country, never actually seen it here. On your list I've grown manitoba, anna russian, riesentraube and thessaloniki. Loved the riesentraube and the anna russian was good. Personally not that impressed with manitoba and thessaloniki's production. Grow for sauce and salsa so I want each plant to produce vast quantities. Only tried them one year each so not much chance to prove me wrong if it was just not their year.

I have box car willie on my list to try this year. It's almost too long to maturity for us, but I'll either keep it in the greenhouse or plant it early with wall-o-waters. Because I don't eat alot of tomatoes fresh but mostly process them (freezing and canning) I grow mostly hybrids. Never paid much attention to the difference. After reading on gardenweb everyone's love of heirloom I've decided to add some to my list.

My last year's list:
Delicious
Early Goliath
Park's Whopper
Tomande
Anna Russian
Juliet
Jenny
Big Mama Paste

This year's list (so far):

Red Alert (free seed, so I'm trying it)
Early Goliath
Champion II
Juliet
Sungold (everyone on GW seems to like them)
San Marzano Redorta
Opalka
Big Mama Paste

My maybes:

Brandyboy
Hege German Pink
box car willie
milano


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gardengekko
I tried Manitoba years ago - not impressed either - I don't suggest it - the list you saw had tomato suggestions from Gary Ibsen (tomatofest) not on my list which was below his is only part of my list of seeds and only the ones that are supposed to be OK in cooler temps- I love box car willie - really great balanced taste really nice looking and productive too - the thessoloniki is good in taste and holds well but was only above average productive for me - even though it is supposed to be a good producer - I think this would be a good farmers market tomato - I am thinking about adding brandyboy with all the talk about it - but I have seeds for 95 varieties now!!! thinking about Amy Goldman's - Goldman's Italian American - for a paste - supposed to be great also


 
 

 

 


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