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| So I am leaning towards Sungold for orange cherries and Keloggs Breakfast for large orange, as we want to grow orange/yellow tomatoes. I would start these from seeds indoors myself. Also want to pick up a Tami G seedling, which did awesome for me th8s year, and a Marglobe which did great as an early/determinant for early pickings. Thoughts? 4 healthy plants will produce all the tomatoes we can possibly eat. |
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| P...I grew Sungold this summer for the first time. They are as advertised! They were sweet, plentiful, and somewhat on the smallish size. You will like it. |
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| Four plants is not enough! I grew 31 plants last year, which was a little too many for 2 people, but I freeze the extras to use over the winter..... Linda |
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| 31 plants?? You'd have to eat frozen tomatoes for breakfast lunch and dinner :) |
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| Ha ha! We eat FRESH tomatoes when they are in season for breakfast, lunch and dinner (as well as giving them away to friends). I made some sauce, dehydrated some - and then there are some large packs of frozen ones in the freezer. Linda |
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- Posted by tormato (dwcmuseum@yahoo.com) on Fri, Dec 5, 14 at 15:32
| SunGold is for breakfast, brunch, lunch, dinner, midnight snack, etc... If you really love tomatoes (which means eating them nearly every day, and more than once a day), and you have the room, two plants of each variety is the way to go. If one plant somehow expires, you have a backup. And if there are too many tomatoes, give some away, freeze some, or just let them compost. |
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| I am getting into growing varieties in colors and sizes. I will have RED, MULTICOLOR, YELLOW/ORANGE, BROWN/BLACK/PURPLE, and PINK. Size wise : From cherry to large beef steak. Even with limited space I cramp about 2 dozen plants. That is enough for 2 families, and some for the friends too. I would want to add 6 new ones and will drop out about the same number from 2014 list. I have got all the seeds except for Brandy Boy, Rutgers and Kellogg's Breakfast. Seysonn Seysonn |
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| "4 healthy plants will produce all the tomatoes we can possibly eat." I used to think such thoughts, but then my wife "discovered" fresh cherry tomatoes and also discovered she could eat an entire bowl every day without ever getting the slightest bit tired of them. I have had to make her some promises for next year. Then there are the kids and grandkids... Four? Hah! |
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| Jaune Flammee deserves consideration |
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| Big Beef and Red Robin. Maybe Mexico Midget just from curiosity. I've never had a currant tomato. |
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| I'm with all of you. Four is not enough! Thanks to all of the enabling that occurs on this site, I no long grow less than 30 plants. Yes it's a lot but the colors and the shapes and the jarred tomatoes we eat in the winter! Jaune Flammee is good and on my grow again list as is Hillbilly (medium large beef) and Coyote (small currant size). D |
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| Black Krim and Anna Russian always make my list. I have yet to take stock for next year and decide on varieties, but four is definitely not enough for us because I can or freeze as much sauce as I can. What are Jaune Flamme and Hillbilly like. Large, round, red etc? Caryl |
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| I wont' be growing 4, I will probably be growing about 6 for good measure, and that will be plenty for us, to freeze and give away some. But if you want more all the power to you :) |
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| I haven't decided yet, but will probably include Indian Stripe and Little Luck because they taste SO good. I grew Jaune Flammee this past summer, but thought it tasted acidic and horrid. Word is that there are some "off-type" seeds floating around, so who knows. I don't feel like trying it again. Linda |
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| The above post is why I never buy plants. all too often what you get is not what you purchased. I mostly try to get seeds from very reputable companies. Those companies who will take extra care to keep their seeds properly marked and take pride in selling the correct seeds. and if what they sold gave bad results they will be all to happy to give you new seeds no questions asked. If a good company learned that their seeds grew bad tasting tomatoes they would pull all the remaining seeds and offer new ones to those who purchased them. I have seen for example Fedco put into their catalog that such had happened to some seeds [ not tomatoes and not bad tasting just not the proper high quality ] and offered free seeds to anyone who said they bought some the previous year. no questions asked. I can assure you that the description [ but thought it tasted acidic and horrid. ] is not Jaune Flammee. either you bought plants and got the wrong thing or bad seeds or something. but please lets not blame the original good Jaune Flammee for something that is not Jaune Flammee. High Mowing Organic Seeds. some of the expensive seeds for sure. Here is their description & I agree with this. Prolific French heirloom that will set your heart on fire with its sweet, fruity flavor. Like a grown-up Sungold with larger apricot-sized fruits that we loved in our trials. This is the Jaune Flammee that I know. |
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| "Sweet and fruity" huh? Mine came from a reputable seed vendor who described it as "sharp and tangy". I know this company stands behind their products, but I can hardly complain...... Guess I should get some from High Mowing! Thanks, |
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| My JF were sharp, strong and tangy and that is how they suppose to be, def specific taste. I loved it but can see where it is not for everyone taste buds. |
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- Posted by suncitylinda 9ASoCal Inland (My Page) on Tue, Dec 9, 14 at 0:51
| I've grown JF several times over as many years and I too would say this is a good but sharp taste, kind of like wake up your mouth taste! I would not describe it as sweet and/or particularly fruity. |
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| Hi ye' all I am still trying to find some new varieties. So I was at this Sample Seeds site and pick a few(Not ordered any). Price is right: $1.50 for 15 seeds, Low shipping costs. DISCLAIMER: I have never dealt with this place and don't know the people who own the place. I just find a lot of good heirloom selection with prices that make sense : $1.25 to $1.50 per pack. Here are some of my picks. And I would like to get a feedback from you folks. ---HAHMS GELBETOPTOMATO: gold cherry , dwarf Like I said: space is at premium; So dwarfs can be put in pots and DETs require less space. Let us know what you think about these 2015 choices. Have you grown any of those before? OR are you going to grow any of those in 2015? Seysonn |
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| I've used Sample Seeds before. I believe it's a small, homegrown operation (and I think she's a member of gardenweb, too).. My only quibble with it is there's not much info on the packets, whether it's perennial or annual, how deep to plant the seeds, etc. Which is fine if you know what you're growing, like tomatoes. But if it's a new-to-you plant it's more of a guessing game. But the prices are good especially since most only want or need a small quantity of any specific seed. |
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| Those all look like great varieties. I haven't grown any of them, but am planning to grow five of those varieties myself. The Sample Seed Shop is excellent. I like the prices and low shipping, and Remi ships fast AND gives a bonus packet of seeds with every order. I happen to know that she's out of Sophie's Choice at the moment.... Linda |
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| I noticed they have Rozovyi Flamingo. Greatly recommend. Not a true dwarf but is compact. |
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| Seysonn, the only one on your list that I've grown is Kellogg's Breakfast. It was OK, both taste-wise and production, but nothing really special. We grew KBX this past year and really loved, loved, loved it. It is now on my must-grow-every-year list. Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in for what it's worth :^) Edie |
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| Thanks Linda , Edie. So I feel better about my choices now. TWO more months until I start germinating. haha Seysonn |
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| I'm looking forward to Big Beef. I've heard nothing but good about it. I'll buy the plant. If I can find Red Robin as a plant that'd be great. I get frustrated waiting on seeds. But if the only way to get RR is seed, seeds it is ! |
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| Below are my choices for 2015: Cherry: Early Producing: Mid-Season: Late Season: Seysonn... I've grown Sophie's Choice (early ripening variety) and wasn't impressed. I've also grown Stupice, Matina and Kimberly, and of all four, Kimberly was the most productive and best tasting. I've also grown both KB and KBX. KB was fabulous, KBX hasn't been that great, but also has been awful so its smart to try out both and see which one you like more. I'd also appreciate any feedback on my non-repeat choices listed above. smithmal |
Here is a link that might be useful: Kimberly Tomato
This post was edited by smithmal on Wed, Dec 10, 14 at 14:41
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| Smithmal, the only one of your non-repeats that I've grown is Opalka. It's a largish, pepper-shaped paste tomato, dense with not a lot of seeds so a good sauce tomato. I never used it for anything but sauce (I prefer a juicier tomato for slicing or salads) so I can't tell you what it tastes like on its own. It is very prone to BER. I grew it for three seasons and had problems with that each year so I gave it up. |
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| Purple Bumblebee is pretty and sweet, but it's like chewing a piece of leather! It won't be invited back in MY garden. Linda |
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| caryltoo, Thanks. I've read that of all the paste tomatoes, Opalka had the least problems with BER (that doesn't mean that it doesn't have any problems, just showed the least). Does anyone have any other suggestions for a good paste tomato that's productive and resistant to BER? Linda, yeah, I've heard others say the same thing about taste so it's got me concerned. Has anyone tried the Pink Bumble Bee variety? I wondering how it rates compared to the purple variety. smithmal |
Here is a link that might be useful: Pink Bumble Bee
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| I've grown Jap Black trifele several years in a row and love it. Pink honey was poor producer and so so on taste for me and friends but I have heard it is excellent for others, so am hoping to try other seed sources as my friends and I all had same seed source. |
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| Very honest good posts. Thank you all. Smithmall , I have grown Matina, stupice, Bloody Butcher. Matina is coming back. I,ll try Kimberly, maybe. Also I am leaned toward just KB (No x). I am trying to avoid PL varieties as they are prone to mold in my Climate. Linda, I grew JBT in 2014. It is going to come back as well. I find its taste incredible, next to Cherokee Purple. From 2014, I have 10 rejects. Some were terrible and some were so so, nothing to write home about. So I will have about 50% repeats and 50% new experiments. Seysonn |
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| Amish Paste, which Carolyn says is not a true paste, has dense flesh and is a large oval shape. It's a good sauce tomato. Last year I grew a large paste variety called German Howard (I think that was the name, my brother gave me the plants after a bunch of my seedlings died -- I think from too much fertilizer mixed in the hole). It was a very productive large paste variety. I've read on this forum that many of the heart-shaped tomatoes make good paste tomatoes. I'm partial to Anna Russian, which is fairly early, large and meaty. I'm pretty much going in that direction and away from the paste varieties. On that note, has anyone grown 1884? If so, what did you think? Caryl |
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| I've grown 1884 purple, which from what Tania says, strain of 1884, it is yum and excellent, it was loaded!!! |
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| Ooooo! I have 1884 Purple. It's supposed to be excellent and I'm itching to try it next year! Linda |
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| Thanks for the input. 1884 definitely on my list this year. |
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| Thanks for the feed back on Opalka. I've heard good things about Opalka, but to cover my sauce making bases, I've also ordered and may try out the following: Earl's Faux All three scored very high on a recent tomato tasting event discussed on another forum (google "Showdown at Suze's") smithmal |
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| Every year I do a different color for my main crop. My main crop is mostly for preserving. Last year it was orange, the year before red... ect. For 2015 I have decided to do white for my main crop. So a couple each of... Snow White This year is a round of container testing too, I got tons of tomato seed and need to see what works :) These will mostly be for eating, seed saving, and maybe some crazy salsa. Yellow in, red out |
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| BeesNeeds, Love the list... Not sure about Snow White, but I've grown Super Snow White and got bland tomatoes from it. For other whites I would suggest the following: Dr. Carolyn's - Ivory Pink; highly productive ping pong size tomatoes. First fruit tend to be pretty bland, but the taste really picks up with the later crop Fantome Du Laos - Mild flavor but excellent yield. Called the "Ghost of Laos." Legend has it this old Laotian heirloom will glow in the dark when ghosts are near. Great White - very well received beefsteak in which the flavor has hint of fresh-cut pineapple, melon and guava. Some have reported that this beefsteak can get up to 3 lbs in weight. In terms of the Dwarf varieties, I tried growing Dwarf Kelly Green and got zero fruit (which I don't think has ever happened to me). Hopefully Dwarf wild Fred will work out better for you. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Fantome Du Laos
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| Hi BeesNeeds, I've only grown Great White from that list, but it's a really nice tomato -- big and sweet. It's my oldest son's favorite and he asks me to grow it every year. This year, however, I'm out of seeds so he's out of luck. While I like the taste, I'm more of a red or purple fan and am not going to buy a packet of seeds to grow just one plant (and I didn't save seeds this year). Plus, he's not even living at home anymore since he bought his first house. Told him to grow his own, but he'd need to do it in a container (small yard, more of a patio really) and Great White certainly isn't suitable for that. A nice determinate would probably be best, but I've never grown any so am not sure which would suit. Caryl |
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| hmm, I have hard time imagining what all white tomato sauce or salsa looks like.... also there will be concern for low acidity for canning so recipes might need to be adjusted I think? |
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| I think it's a great idea to grow a tomato theme. It would be a quick way to trial different varieties of the same colour. My problem would be that I would crave tomatoes of a different colour if I did that...... Linda |
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| Thanks for taking interest in my doing color theme folks :) It is a nice way to try a bunch of color all in one year. Acid levels can be a problem with white tomatoes, but I adjust my acidity with either vinegar or lemon juice anyway when processing to help guarantee acid levels. I haven't found adding in the acid impacts the taste. Even when I have used high acid reds, I still added lemon juice to the jars when canning, just to be on the safe side. Since I've never done a white year before, that's a big part of the reason why I'm doing container trails as well this year coming up. I figure I have chosen at least one or two of each kind of color, so I can have other tasty if I find myself disappointed with the whites. And it will help the family leave the whites alone so I can process them, yet still have a nice variety of tomatoes for fresh eating. I'm particularly interested to see how the silver fir tree turns out since it's supposed to be a very pretty plant. And around here, can't have enough tomato product, so whatever does not get fresh eaten will either get canned up or dehydrated. |
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| So I reworked my choices and came up with 4 different plants I am hoping to plant, I've got about enough room for 6 plants. We were looking for the best lower (however slightly) acid varieties. This is what I've got: Sun Gold (Cherry, Hybrid, Indeterminate) I realized afterwards that these were all hybrids... but with the lower acid constraint this is what I got. Any thoughts? |
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- Posted by Whosurtomato 6a Southern IN (My Page) on Sun, Dec 14, 14 at 16:07
| Thinking of adding Costoluto Genovese and Amish Paste. Have heard good and bad about both. Will use them more or less for sauce. Will grow most of what I grew last year with a few exceptions as it was not a good year to make many culls. After two bad years in a row my canning stock is depleted so hoping to can my brains out this year. |
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| Bees Needs, I gre Silver Fir Tree this year. It works out very good for containers, the only variety I have ever had work out in a container for me, and it gave me no problems whatsoever. However, I found the taste was only okay, and because of it's small size, production was very limited. Peter, So, this year I am trying some hybrid varieties in hopes that they will be a little more reliable producers (course I may find that I am wrong, and I'll be stuck growing tomatoes with 60 days or less to maturity). Sweet Tangerine made my short list while ordering seeds this week, but it didn't make the final cut. You will have to tell me how you liked it. ========= For my list, I will be growing 4 varieties: Nineveh - (OP, Det.) This guy was a real workhorse for me last year. Early maturity and abundant. Made some great spaghetti sauces and put up some jars of whole ones. I hope for another banner year out of this one as my canning variety. Black Sea Man - (OP, Det.) New variety for me. Like I said, I'm not giving up on OP's just yet, we'll see how well this one does for me. Orange Blossom - (Hyb. Det.) One of the hybrids I'm trying out. I am big fan of orange tomatoes, and we will see if this one works out better than Nebraska Wedding did this year. Burpee's Burger Hybrid - (Hyb., Indet.) I only have room for a couple indeterminate plants, and I gave them to this one in hopes that I may actually get some good sized tomatoes next year before the snow starts flying in mid September haha. |
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| I just made an order for 11 varieties with the Sample Seeds Shop. Probably 7 out of 11 are dwarf or determinant. So I figure I can plant them in containers. --- ALLEGHENY SUNSET Very good deal @ $1.50 per pack and $4.25 shipping (under 40 packs). With 6 more non-tomato items my total came to $27.25. Seysonn |
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| Several that I will grow again in the yellow orange category are: Big Orange (there is some variation as to what is sold under this name) Hugh Lemon Beefsteak |
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- Posted by zensojourner (My Page) on Wed, Dec 17, 14 at 13:06
| I hope to grow one of: Polish Linguisa All are available from sampleseeds.com. One tomato plant more than meets our needs. We don't eat raw tomatoes in my household. My dad relished them. But I never picked that up from him. I don't can any more, so one plant is plenty. I considered - briefly - planting 2 - but my garden area is very small these days and there are other things I need the extra space for. Such as eggplants and peppers. |
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| Earl's Faux is a great one that I missed not growing last year. Much more productive than Brandywine. |
This post was edited by scarza on Wed, Dec 17, 14 at 21:23
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| scarza, Of the ones you've listed I'm familiar with Coyote (grew it) and Orange Minsk (usually gets great reviews). When I grew the Coyote (small yellow cherry), it was prolific with many small cherry tomatoes, but the tomatoes were okay in flavor and a little too small for my liking. Of the other yellow oranges that you listed, do you have a favorite since they are all repeat choices?
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| Last year's favorite had to be Orange Russian 117. I am partial to the oxhearts and this is a great one. Ruby Gold is very good and I have been growing that one for about 15 years. The Big Orange I grow is a solid orange tomato and I have been growing that one for over 30 years. I must like it since I continue to grow it. I can usually pick it out of a tray of seedlings by the slightly blue gray green foliage. My old description was "Peels like an orange" since the the skins slips off so easily. |
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| This is one of the double Amish Paste that comes out. |
This post was edited by scarza on Wed, Dec 17, 14 at 21:31
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