Do a web search for Trachycarpus fortunei. You'll get lots of info.

First of all, they are in large pots, sunken into the ground and mulched heavily. Secondly, they have them in a micro-climate setting, protected by surrounding plants and away from our strong winds. They move them inside for the winter.

hi Johnpdd,
Are you familiar with the Bulgarian Windmill Palm, Trachycarpus fortunei 'bulgaria'? It sounds promising for a VERY cold hardy palm.

Here is a link that might be useful: Bulgaria Windmills - Polar Palms

hey guys,

I a few of the hardy Bulgarian windmill palm seedlings LAST FALL (2002) . First let me say , I got the seedlings from a friend in July 2002 and let them sit in the baggie with the moss on them till after Thanksgiving last year, when I shoved them into muy slightly amended clay soil in a sunny spot. Thy were about 5" high. NO mulch , no protection.

To my surprise they survived last winter like a champ! It was a horrible, long, wet and cold winter here in zone 6b.

They about doubled in size this year.

I also have a 3' high , 6 yr old Sabal Minor "McCurtain" from a hardy stand in OK. It too has had no protection and has seen temps below zero with NO damage, except for a few burned leaf edges!!

YOu should defintely try these both.

I have photos if anyone is interested.

Good luck!

Boca Joe

Boco Joe,

I live in McCurtain County, Oklahoma and would like to learn more about those Sabal Minor "McCurtain" palms. Did you order it online or get it from someone who lives here?

Thanks,
Rindalin