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Posted by maspirasjr zones 6/8 (My Page) on Fri, Jan 14, 05 at 22:04
| Check out my fresh cupuacu fruit, a rare cacao relative from Amazonia, Brazil.
The taste is incredible-sourish, but with mangosteen and subtle durian afertastes. The pulp is especially delicious with evaporated milk blended with some sugar.
The rind was incredibly hard, with lignified wood. I had to use a hacksaw to cut it in half!
Marcelo |
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RE: Theobroma grandiflorum (cupuacu)-photo
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| I was supposed to get some from PR but they were all sold in haste and I got forgotten. I really just wanted the seeds. I have read they are rather precocious, fruiting in just 4 years from seed. They require cross pollination for good fruit set according to the literature I have seen. The lesser known Theobroma species need further investigation, one of them may be suited to cooler climes and have a future in gardens other than those of enthusiasts. Alan |
RE: Theobroma grandiflorum (cupuacu)-photo
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| marcello: Does cupacu fruit in the shadow or in full sun? alan_: Does Salacca zalacca fruit under shadow or needs partial sun? I am not sure if it will endure my harsh sun. Do you know where I can get Salacca wallichianna? My pedalai is not very happy right now, it sent 2 leaves in 2 months (I guess it was these 10 C nights), but the oldest one is like fried, not sure if it was the cold or humidty although it has a sprinkler all day long. How does your pedalai doing? Do you have it in partial shade? How big is it? Thank you both. |
RE: Theobroma grandiflorum (cupuacu)-photo
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- Posted by Eggo z10soCal LBC (My Page) on
Mon, Jan 17, 05 at 22:44
| wow that looks yummy. There must of been no way you found that in a grocery market. Someone must of owed you big time to ship you one. hehe. |
RE: Theobroma grandiflorum (cupuacu)-photo
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| patusho25: Salacca in general should be most happy in at least partial shade, 60% shade cloth in your area would be most appreciated by the palms. Winter sun would be tolerated to a greater degree as it is less intense so a site with either shade cloth or tree provided shade which gets more sun in early day or late day and winter due to the low winter sun should do well. It is most important to protect the plants from prolonged instense sunlight and to avoid any dryness. The plants I have are very happy with moist feet and frequently wet feet. They will fruit this way, if they fruit. I have been trying to get the Bali type, and my friend has started some seedlings of that type, but I do want to try the others so I tried some zalacca seeds this fall and got about 15 % germination and divided these among some friends. I will try again as I think a good way to try something new is with a good number of trials and plants. The wallichiana I have I got from a grower in Miami, I have not seen any seeds offered lately. Contact me and I will try to let you know if I hear anything. My pedalai are just waiting for more warmth, they are also showing their dislike of winter with browning old growth but the newer leafs are OK. Time will tell. Alan |
RE: Theobroma grandiflorum (cupuacu)-photo
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| alan_tampa: yes, I will provide salaks with shade cloth or a banana tree so they get some sun in early morning and in the late evening. I would try to mulch them so they always have wet feet. I bought 11 seeds of Salacca zalacca from Guaycuyacu seeds last month and 90% germinated very well, in his web site tells his S. zalacca are the monoecius Bali type, I hope so. I it was $US 5 for these.Yes, hopefully I can get some S. wallichiana. Thanks Alan. |
RE: Theobroma grandiflorum (cupuacu)-photo
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- Posted by Eggo z10soCal LBC (My Page) on
Tue, Jan 18, 05 at 20:01
| Have any of you tasted both the wallichiana and edulis? Can you compare them? I've tasted the wallichiana, it was aciditic but it was a very pleasant acidity, it even small hints of jackfruit in the tastes. I never had an edulis but it seems it would be tastier. Salaks I'm growing right now are the dioecious edulis and they don't seem to be as tropical as I once thought. Hopefully I should be getting some Bali ones in spring. It would be great if their the same hardiness. I've always wanted to get seeds from Jim, but darn things never make it through the port of L.A., gets confiscated. =( |
RE: Theobroma grandiflorum (cupuacu)-photo
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| Patusho, I was told that cupuassu generally prefers partial shade to fruit. Its requirements are similar to cacao, though I believe it is even a little more tender (if that can be imagined!). Alan, I'll PM you re: this plant.... Eggo, I actually got the fruit from Bryan Brunner at Montoso Gardens in Puerto Rico. His tree only had 2 fruits this year, so I reserved one back in October when it first appeared. The fruit wasn't ready until only a week and a half ago (it isn't harvested, except when it falls to the ground). Marcelo |
RE: Theobroma grandiflorum (cupuacu)-photo
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| Yes, Salacca edulis is now Salacca zalacca |
RE: Theobroma grandiflorum (cupuacu)-photo
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| Wow thats a fantastic fruit :D |
RE: Theobroma grandiflorum (cupuacu)-photo
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| Hi Is Theobroma grandiflorum more tolerant of cool temps than
T. Cacao? I have read that it grows up to 2000m, whic is well outside of th etolerance of TC. |
RE: Theobroma grandiflorum (cupuacu)-photo
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| Not sure about cold tolerance, but believe cupuacu needs much more water to do well. |
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