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Growing Papaya Tree in Socal...3rd year

tydiggy0628
9 years ago

hi all, i have been trying to grow a papaya tree for the past 3 years but have been unsuccessful. in the previous years, i was germinate the tree from seeds and have them grown up till 3 to 4 ft then the winter came and conquered. most of the trees died through the cold/rotted. anyways, hopefully this year will be different. i have a few papaya trees that lasted through the winter. i planted them next to my wooden fence and they survived..hurray! the tallest tree now is about 3 1/2 feet and currently have no sign of flowers/fruits. attached is the pic. i do have another one that survived but is still very small.

Does anyone know when i can expect for the tree to flower and produce fruits? additionally, based on the picture, does anyone know which variety this is? any advice is greatly appreciated.

i am hoping that this year i will finally succeed with plant this!

Comments (21)

  • MohammadLawati
    9 years ago

    Wow amazing! Good luck!

  • greenman62
    9 years ago

    very hard to tell variety like this
    i would clear up around the roots,
    and give it lots of compost. + mulch
    if there is a way to increase sunshine ?
    hopefully it will get taller and it will get more sun.

    the more sun it gets, the more fruit,
    and better they taste.

    i add coffee grounds to top-dress.
    they bring in lots of worms.
    Papaya love worm poo (chicken poo as well)

    its the right size to start flowering
    it will take several months after the first flower to get fruit.
    hopefully it will stay on the tree over winter

  • tydiggy0628
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Thanks greenman62.

    From what i saw, the tree grew almost 1 feet within in the past few (2) months so it is growing quite fast. I took this picture around 4 p.m. so it looks a little shaded. I would say it gets plenty of sunshine throughout the course of the day.

    i am really looking forward for it to produce fruits. from what you are saying, after it produces flower, it takes a few more months to produce fruits? wow...i am hoping that i can have some by the end of fall!

    i am starting to germinate more seeds and plant it along the long side of the house so hopefully they will last through the next winter and will produce lots of fruits! i am dreaming of course! lets hope i can get at least 1 from this tree here. will post pics for updates.

    do you have any pics you can share?

  • tydiggy0628
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Oops...almost forgot, i have another papaya tree that was in a 5 gallon pot and survived this past winter. the tree was planted on the ground for almost 2 months now and is about 2 ft tall. hoping that it will fruit as well.

  • mangodog
    9 years ago

    Looking good, Ty! My experience so far has been any fruit forming one year, does not ripen till the next year! I've had fruit take 8-9 months to ripen from when they were formed. It's our cold SoCal winters that really slow them down.

    Also, some of your winter "losses" may be from getting the trunk at the base of the plant too wet. If nothing else, they HATE cold wet soil where the trunk touches the soil. After losing a bunch of them over the winter for that reason (they just tipped over from rot), I learned to plant them on mounds of raised soil, with a moat-like thing around them for watering to keep that part of the plant as dry as possible. Also, frosts may look like they kill the plant, but quite often there is still a viable growing point at the top which re-emerges in the spring, so be sure you check on that first before giving it the chop! If the papaya have fallen over, that means that the trunks stayed too wet in the winter and rotted....

    Huge learning curve with them. And as others mentioned during the growing season YES they are voracious feeders on just about any kind of fertilizer. And LOVE tons of water when they are growing too....

    Here's my TR Hovey in Feb. of this year The largest fruit you see, finish ripening in April and was formed on the plant last June.

  • tydiggy0628
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Mangodog...

    Thanks for the advice. your pic looks great! i am jealous! i am hoping that the tree will produce some fruits this year regardless of how big/when they ripe. if anything, i can always make papaya salad out of it! haha

    where in socal are you? i am in the sgv....do you have any other papaya trees?

  • myamberdog
    9 years ago

    I am in Palm Springs. Yes, I have a few Mexican papaya, a few Hawaiian Red (or whatever they are called) and one other variety I don't know the name of. Some are doing fine, others are kind of stick like....

    M.A.D.

  • stanofh 10a Hayward,Ca S.F. bay area
    9 years ago

    The tree looks healthy,but I would remove that ground cover come winter..that's going to add to the chill soils. This past winter was an all time warm one. Two in a row isn't likely and they have been predicting just the opposite- wet and cloudy.

    The fence is really helping too btw,you cant get enough reflected heat for Papaya in California. Ok,maybe MANGO DOG could!..

  • tydiggy0628
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    thanks for the advice stanofh. i will try to make sure the soil is not too wet! the bigger papaya tree (1st pic) is really growing. i believe it has grown about 1 ft since this post. i am looking for it to flower and hopefully produces some delicious fruits. the smaller tree (2nd pic) has been growing at a slower rate. it hasnt grown much for the past few months. i just added some coffee grinds to attract worms and to increase drainage.

  • tydiggy0628
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Here are some pics i just took yesterday (6/9/14). Based on what i am seeing, it looks like the tree is about to set flowers. Can someone confirm this based on the pics below? If they are flowers, are they male/female/hermaprodite? My apology for the horrible pics. Thanks a bunch!

  • myamberdog
    9 years ago

    Yes, Ty, they are flowers - what kind I'm not really sure ....somewhere I saw a link describing the diff. kinds of papaya flowers....

    here it is:

    http://www.smilepolitely.com/images/uploads/culture/2012/november/8/Flowers.jpg (you might have to copy and paste in your browser)

    The first pic is Hermaphrodite, second is female, third is male... (I copied this from another post, so this is not my knowledege!)

    MyamberDOG

  • greenman62
    9 years ago

    i see one flower, bottom left arrow
    the rest look like leaves to me.

    its real hard to tell until they are large enough
    to see the difference.

    Male usually hangs down from a stem.
    females have a wider bud.
    Herm's look like females, but , sometimes a bit more narrow

    Mangodog is on spot about them hating cold-wet feet too.
    will quickly kill them.

    I use chicken poo. its high in nitrogen
    sometimes i use a high N fertilizer with micronutes
    they respond real good to both.

    -
    Mangodog
    are you sure that is a TR Hovey ?
    The fruit is hanging down on stems
    which means it was a male flower.
    (supposedly) and now a male fruit.
    I looked at other pics of TR hoveys
    they are only supposed to get 6-8 ft tall.
    mine is only 4ft (but still young)

    you might have something different there.

    https://logeesblog.wordpress.com/category/carica-papaya-t-r-hovey/

    Here is a link that might be useful: TR hovey

  • tydiggy0628
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    here is a quick update of the tree. the tree in the first pic has grown so much in less than a month. the tree is about 5 ft tall now and has produced a few buds now. i cant wait it it flowers and sets fruits.

    based on the pictures, does anyone know how long it takes for it to flower and set fruits? i cant wait! haha

  • myamberdog
    9 years ago

    Greenman - well, I don't know. It was sold to me by Aloha seeds asTR Hovey........I have no way to tell....and YES I've heard others say it is supposed to be dwarfish as well, or at least set fruit at a very low level on the plant....

    Don't know what to tell you, amigo....

    Amberdawggie

  • tydiggy0628
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Here is an update on the papaya tree.
    Geez...the tree is GROWING! it is now over 6 ft tall and the trunk is more than doubled in size.

    Attached is the pic from yesterday. there are 3-4 fruits on there now. i am hoping that they will stick and not drop. what do you guys think?

    can anyone identify the variety and the sex of the flower based on the pic? Please advise. thanks

    anthony

  • myamberdog
    9 years ago

    Ty - I think it is going to hold some fruit, though it will most certainly winter over on the plant. It's either a female or hermaphrodite plant. Either way, you will get fruit. Yeah, they do grow kind of nuts in the heat, don't they????

    By the way, did you say Ty, what kind of papaya this is? It kind of looks like a Mexican to me....

    M.A.Doggie

  • greenman62
    9 years ago

    thats a very healthy looking tree youve got.
    a very thick trunk, and the fence and house will protect it from winter temps
    the top is reaching up to grab more sun, which is great,
    and even if the top dies off in the winter, the rest of the plant should be good to go
    then come back with a vigor in spring.

    lets just hop you can keep the fruit.

    mine saved, and the first had ripened in Feb i think.
    i was scared it would taste bad,
    (the tree looked like hell from cold/wind)
    but it was excellent.

    the fruit on yours have a curious star shape to them.
    i dont remember mine looking like that

    but then, papaya, sex and varieties are all strange birds

  • tydiggy0628
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    horrible news! all this time i was so excited and really looking forward to enjoying my hard fruit of labor but only to find out this Thursday, all of my fruits have dropped! =( i am all discourage now. the tree still has a lot of flowers but idk if they will stick.

  • tydiggy0628
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    These flowers formed fruits and dropped. I suppose they are unpollinated female flowers. does anyone have any ideas on how to make the fruit sticks? Thanks

  • stanofh 10a Hayward,Ca S.F. bay area
    9 years ago

    Not that this will make you feel better..but its always recommended to plant them in groups..to make sure you get a fertile plant.
    You said you have a second one in a 5 gallon..that might be your pollinator next summer...and pick up a couple more at HD around May!

  • sueanne777
    9 years ago

    I am very happy with my Red Lady papaya tree it is self pollinating. Bought it on 6/1814 by sept. was loaded with fruit. Been eating them green grated like cole slaw tastes even better than cabbage. Do add pieces to smoothies with other fruit. Will try putting some in a paper bag with an apple to see if they ripen. So far no trouble with animals eating them or birds. The sap does not cause any allergies either. Hopefully it lasts through the winter for me.

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